Everybody (especially the liberal media) wants to critisize anyone that finds
the government isn't effective or squeaky clean. (I can only imagine what
they'd say about Brigham Young's views of how the government treated
the early Latter-Day Saints in the 1800's.) What we need is
solutions and that involves statesmanship, non-partisanship and leadership.
Those apperar to be nada, null and the empty set in today's Waahington DC
office-holders. Don't even get me started on the entrenched bureaucrats!
At the rate the Republican party is moving farther and farther to the right
I'm pretty sure if that trend continues Huntsman would be a Democrat by
John Huntsman could be elected president, theres just some baggage thats
preventing him from being elected. He could easily dump it all by becoming a
Does this article mean that DN readers are going to be seeing Huntsman articles
for the next eight years whether or not there is any news? Oy.
I am one Republican who would find it hard to support any candidate who chooses
not to keep the covenants he has made with God. This is true,no matter what
religion the candidate professes. This is not a matter of mixing religion with
politics, it is a matter of ethics. I would also say that serial adulterers such
as Gingrich would not receive my support. The promises we make to God and our
spouse should be our highest priority. Compared to them. what is an oath of
office. I long for candidates who will keep their promises and respect the
Constitution. Paul Ryan is an example of the type of future nominee I would like
Chaffetz is dreaming if he thinks the Republicans lost not because of their
platform, but because they simply didn't "communicate it
better."I'd say they communicated their platform very
well--and it was rejected by a majority of voters, particularly young voters.Chaffetz's statement is like someone saying that vaudeville is
going to come back, we just need to make it more entertaining.I
nominate him for poster boy of everything that's wrong with the Republican
Party at the moment, and why it's headed for extinction if it doesn't
finally lose the extremists and wake up to th reality of America today. It
doesn't have to be what it's not--but it should focus on fiscal
responsibility and leave the "social values" alone.
Seriously, JHJ? He who is a hair's breath away from defecting to the
Democrats, and whose stand on social issues makes him pretty much in line with
the Democrat platform? I find it very difficult to believe he would receive any
more support in the future over what he had in the presidential race, which
wasn't much. Or to put it a little differently: if Jon Huntsman becomes
the face of the Republican Party keeping his professed stance on social issues,
it won't be a Republican party I'll want to have anything to do with.
Reaganonservative, if you mean the covenants a candidate makes with God in terms
of his *private* life (such as his marriage vows), I could certainly go along
with that.But if you mean he should also extend those into public
policy platforms when it comes to, e.g., abortion and gay marriage, I'd say
that he'd better keep out of public life altogether.In public
life, a politican must honor diverse values, even if they don't agree with
his own religious values. I know that's hard to do if you have deep
convictions, but again, it's a requirement for political office.And that's why the Republicans lost: because they said, our way or the
highway. Alas, they, themselves, wound up on the highway. (It's also
known as separation of church and state.)A politician should
certainly bring ethics into the arena--no stealing, no cheating, no lying. And
boy, do we need such politicians! But let society and the Supreme Court decide
what our country's social values should be.
Interesting how "Agency" parses a difference between murder of the born
and unborn, and how one view in his thinking is holy, and worthy of holding
public office, and the other is not. Huntsman is a democrat at heart, save us
all a lot of time and just change parties. He wouldn't be the first and
wouldn't be missed! Im with AZ, I want nothing to do with a Huntsman
@free agencyI am amused at those that keep claiming that the
Republicans "lost". Perhaps you didn't pay attention in Novemeber
but last I checked Republicans won more overall elective offices than democrats
did. For instance Republicans won far more house seats than democrats did.
Republicans won far more governorships than democrats won. Republicans won far
more state legislatures than democrats won. I believe Republicans won about
2/3rds of the overall elective offices in the entire country. Now a
democrat did win the presidency. Yay? The democrats did retain the senate,
picked up a couple of seats even. Congratulations? So your point is
that because Republicans only won about 66% of the total elective offices in the
entire country they should change themselves to be more like democrats who only
managed to win about 33% of the total elective offices in the entire country?Nice try but....fail.
Second article based on one persons opinion of a person left of center? Wanting
immigration laws enforced is the hardest of hard approach? Shouldn't this
be an editorial?
What's with the almost daily articles about Jon? Has the DesNews become
Jon's public affairs departments?Enough already. Move on. This
This country has drifted so far left,a strong shift to right is what
is need for correction.But the radical left continues to demonize
the right and any one who desires that needed correction.While the
right seems radical to the far left, it is what is good and right.Please wake up and realize the terrible path of hate and deprivation of
freedom the left is taking us and this country.The fight for the
Republican party is the fight for heart and soul of this country.If
there is no longer any right, those that love freedom and goodness, all that
will be left will be the cold-hearted liberals and progressives, the
'Kingmen' of this day and age.
@The Truth: Thanks for the laugh!2016, Hillary and Jeb Bush.
Whoever wins, stays in office in 2020!
The reason Huntsman lost in the primaries got clobbered is in this article here.
It would be easier to predict correctly the opponents in the 2020 national
championship basketball game than nominees for the president.
Huntsman is too good for the GOP.
@Reagonconservative: Not knowing about his personal life or circumstances,
I'm not going there. I'm just not going to vote for someone who bailed
on his commitment to the Utah people as governor to seek out a better
opportunity for himself and then bailed on that commitment to run for President.
In my book, that kind of behavior indicates someone who is self-serving and NOT
my choice for leading the country.
Huntsman listens to what the public wants and is willing to go against the party
if the party is wrong. People tend to forget Reagan was known for doing the
same. I'd vote for Huntsman and think he'd be a draw for Moderates
and Independents. The problem would be getting Huntsman through the far
Why the plethora of articles about Huntsman, he is not a great statesman, just
the son of a rich man. ad nauseum
re:DuckhunterDemocrats GAINED seats in both the House and Senate,
while Republicans lost seats in the House and Senate. More Republicans lost
seats to Democrats than Democrats lost to Republicans. Additionally, there were
1.5 million more votes for Democrats in the House than votes for Republicans.
As for governorships, Democrats lost 1, while Republicans gained 1. My guess is the next GOP nominee for Pres. is going to have brown skin, since
the overall belief by Republicans is they lost the election due to losing the
Latino vote. They will try to rectify that for the next presidential election.
Alternatively they could try to attract the Latino vote by passing immigration
reform. As can be seen by the comments on these boards, Huntsman
doesn't have a chance in becoming the GOP nominee for Pres.
Can someone tell me about the radical shift to the right of the Republicans.
Apparently I missed it. The Republicans spent 8 years under Bush running $500B
deficits. Now Obama is running deficits of $1,000,000,000,000 or more every
year and a FEW Republicans have stood up and said that is too much. Every
request by Obama to raise the debt ceiling has been passed. The Republicans are
terrified of being blamed for the "fiscal cliff" where - horrors -
Americans will be forced to pay the tax rates implemented by Bill Clinton.
While I think those rates are too high, they are nothing compared to
Obama's budget. Adjusted for inflation, Obama is spending more than 50%
more than Clinton did. Tax the "rich" at 100% and it will still not
balance the budget.If John Huntsman is the future of the Republican
party - the party should just change its name to the Demo-lites. Their campaign
slogan can be - "The Democrats will bankrupt us in 5 years - on our plan it
will take 7 to 10."
Duckhunter - The Republicans did lose (nationally) because they failed to
clearly state the message. The majority of the campaign was about whether we
should tax "rich" people more. The real message of conservatism goes
back to Thomas Jefferson - That Government governs best which governs least.
Instead of playing the "get a bigger piece of the pie" game the Democrat
handout machine relies on - we need to educate the people that low tax rates and
personal responsibility grow the pie. Everyone should be able to get more -
without taking from others. The interesting thing to watch over the next 4 years
will be the growing divide between states with conservative goverments and those
who are doubling down on failed liberal policies. Can we avoid being dragged
over the cliff by California, etc.? Lets hope so.
It's a little early for the return of Romneymania, isnt it?
Good looking spouse.
Whether Huntsman or someone of his ilk is an answer I cannot say. What is
certain is that both parties need to pull their collective heads out of the
ideological sand and learn that "compromise" is not a dirty word.
History teaches that the country was built on it. The "fiscal cliff"
debacle is the most recent case in point. IMO, if the political parties continue
to put immovable ideological stakes in the ground our democracy is doomed.
I pray that the Republican Party doesn't abandon it's line, because
honestly, that's the only thing keeping this country together. Dems gave
shown their willingness to subjugate our sovereignty, abandon basic American
values, and utterly disregard the Constitution they have sworn to uphold. If
they move an inch to the left, so will the dems. And if that happens, we will be
looking at British socialism at best, and at worst... I shudder to think.
So let me get this straight : The Republican party nominated Mitt Romney (former
Governor of super-blue Mass) as it's Presidential candidate. Mitt Romney
and Paul Ryan campaigned on saving Medicare as currently structured for those 50
and older. But the Republican party has moved "too far right"? At
the Democrat National Convention in Charlotte they had a voice vote to not
include God in the party's platform and to not recognize Jerusalem as the
capital of Israel. But the Republican party is the "extreme party"
Andrew Cuomo (Democrat Governor of NY) openly admits gun confiscation "may
be an option". But the Republican party is the extreme party. I
don't know what Norm Ornstein's claim to fame is but he's
obviously big on talking points and not real big on facts on the ground.
@1aggieThere are 28 state legilastures controlled by Republicans, 21
by democrats, and one officially non partisan (Nebraska)although affiliated
Republicans out number Democrats on that legislature 30-17 so that one is
republican as well.For state senates Republicans control 29 of them
while dems only control 18 of them. If we count Nebraska Republicans control 30
of them while there are two states that have coalition senates.By my
count that means republicans control 58 state legislative bodies while democrats
only control 39. Pretty resounding.There are 24 state governments
wholly controlled by Republicans (governnor, sentate, house) while only 12
states are wholly democrat controlled. Of the states with split party control
republicans still lead in total governerships plus either house or senate by
2-1.Republicans control 29 governorships, democrats have 20.That means of elected state bodies republicans control 89 and democrats
control 59 of them. Not even close. Republicans GAINED governorships and state
houses this last election.Don't buy into the democrat and media
propoganda that Republicans "lost" and need to change themselves. They
won far more than the democrats won.
"Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, said what the GOP needs to do is sell its
message better, not change what it stands for to try to appease voters."Note to Jason: It's rather difficult to market irrational economic
policies, idiotic blanket pledges, and offensive immigration stances to most
Americans. It's not about selling. It's about getting back in touch
Republican or Democrat, I could not vote for someone who so lightly values his
heritage and religious upbringing.
I wouldn't vote for Jon Huntsman, Jr. for dog catcher. Too self serving and
Rubio may be a serious contender by 2020. Huntsman's best shot may be in
2016, if he can build a groundswell of popular support before then.
Jon Huntsman Jr.Utah's very own Joe Lieberman.But he's a
man without a party.
Oh, please! Why are we giving Huntsman hacks the time of day? His candidacy did
not make sense in 2012, and it will make even less sense in 2020. Let's
just let this sleeping dog lie.
John Huntsman would have been a much better candidate than Mitt Romney. The
race would have been much closer. He was the only reasonable one in the bunch.
I'm all for a center right candidate. But Huntsman has become more of a
sell-out. He's just trying to hard to be cool. Disappointing
for me because I liked him until he started moving more and more to the left and
became less of a team player. It now seems to be all about him.