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Dick Harmon: BYU's Mendenhall needs to serve his offense the D's Kool-Aid — and maybe change some of the servers

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  • Porter Rockwell Draper, UT
    Dec. 22, 2012 8:57 p.m.

    Thank heavens the Riley Neilson era is over. Let the Taysom Hill era begin. Cody Hoffman might decide to stay once he realizes Taysom can make him a star prospect for the NFL. As for Brandon Doman? I would start looking for a replacement like Ty Detmer. Ty could really help the Cougar offense.

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    Dec. 22, 2012 9:25 p.m.

    Dick has stated the obvious. I wish he had some real insights he could/would share with us. As a fan since 1969 it is hard to watch mediocre play several games a season from the offense. And it makes one wonder why we paid the necessary cash out-of-pocket to see a game in Texas the Cougars could have won. At least I didn't attend the game in South Bend this year. After going to all the bowl games in Las Vegas and the one in New Mexico, I skippd San Diego this year. With only 35,000 in attendance, most of them from SDSU, it appears my decision wasn't unique. I may be accused of being a fair-weather fan, but after 43 years of watching the Cougars (before Lavell was head coach) I have a fair idea of when they are playing up to their potential and when they are not. For independence to work, they bettter improve the Offense and do it right away. And if that means different coaches to avoid last-minute injuries (QB Hill) or whatever else (i.e. better line performance and play-calling), then just do it!!

  • Rikitikitavi Cardston, Alberta
    Dec. 22, 2012 10:32 p.m.

    I am totally on side with Ty Detmer as OC.

  • Cougar Claws Lindon, UT
    Dec. 23, 2012 12:21 a.m.

    I really think Brandon Doman should be given the benefit of a doubt until after 2013. In all seriousness, look what he has had to deal with at QB. I don't think for a second that he has wanted to call plays for a left handed fullback. I think the QB mess was a weird loyalty thing that Bronco got himself into, and thank goodness it is finally dead. Let's hope we don't get a recruit like that who wants to play QB again! As far as changes needed for the offense, I think if anyone should be fired it's the O-line coach. The line has under performed now for at least two seasons. They play like girls at times in the run game. We need a good line coach like we had in Coach Grimes in 2006.

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 23, 2012 12:28 a.m.

    Doman staying? Oh my heck...

  • CWEB Orem, UT
    Dec. 23, 2012 12:36 a.m.

    Wonder. would Ty Detmer be interested? Brandon--great man. I am happy to see the Riley Nelson era complete. What if Lark had been given two years at the helm, developing his tenacious pocket presence? I was impressed as the wave of black swarmed him all night.

    Riley could have been a great leader in the defense.

    I hope "someone" steps up and recognizes the hidden talents at Quarterback. Seems LaVell and his coaches were pretty sharp on that question.

    Not a big Max Hall fan. He keeps getting mentioned with the really good BYU quarterbacks. Just can't shake that performance at Utah--big mess up. Glad he is gone.

    Love what Bronco has done with the Defense. Love what he represents to the young men and the school and the program. He seems to need to read less "self-improvement" books and spend a lot more off-season time picking the brains of great Offensive Minds! If Bronco never mentions another self-help book, I'll be eternally grateful!

    Here is to hoping the learning curve is finished as of this year...time to move on Offense!! Cheers!

  • spokaloo Adin, CA
    Dec. 23, 2012 12:43 a.m.

    I love Ty Detmer as a QB. I might even love him as a coach...someday. But for him to be a major college football OC is lunacy at this point. A QB coach...yes.

  • Cougar Claws Lindon, UT
    Dec. 23, 2012 12:48 a.m.

    Brandon Doman also does great things for BYU as a recruiter which often get overlooked. Let's just see what he can do with a real QB after his first couple seasons and reserve judgement until then.

  • no comment New Orleans, LA
    Dec. 23, 2012 5:51 a.m.

    It was polite, but weak of Harmon not to mention the obvious: BRANDON DOMAN HAS TO GO!

    He re-wrote the book on the BYU offense, and the offense has been terrible ever since. So bad, that likely future NFL player Jake Heaps had to leave and go somewhere where he could develop as a player.

    Doman is a good guy; just a terrible, and I mean terrible Offensive Coordinator.

    The offense will not recover until he and his schemes are gone.

  • geggett Orem, UT
    Dec. 23, 2012 7:09 a.m.

    To my knowledge, Detmer has no experience coaching at this level. He would be another Domanesque experiment.

  • airliner Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 23, 2012 7:40 a.m.

    Go ahead, bring Detmer on. Within two to three years, you will all be calling for his job too! It is too bad that BYU has the most fickle fans around! BYU will never have another NC in Provo, the game has changed significantly since '84. In the same breath, I will offer that Utah will never be more than a mid-tiered Pac12 team. Arguing about these two programs is like arguing about Buicks and Hyundais. They are both adequate cars, but nothing to get excited about, go ahead, bring Detmer in to drive your Buick. Your car won't magically transform to a Toyota, let alone a Mercedes.

  • Cougar Alumni Beaver, UT
    Dec. 23, 2012 7:50 a.m.

    Dick, I believe your article is spot on, BUT consideration needs to be given for the glaring fact that the program as a whole needs to be revamped, Its broken; Tom Holmoe needs to go, he created the Indy Follies, Bronco is a phenomenal DC but lets face it, he's not a head coach, he has created a circus act, adorned with silly T-shirts. Doman was never a OC and never will be. Lets face it Cougar Nation, the BYU of old has faded in the shadows of Lavell. Its time to step back and really look at the direction of what once was GREAT football program and figure out how to get it back on track. If it continues on the stadium will continue to show empty seats on those cold Thursday night games.

  • duck Saint George, UT
    Dec. 23, 2012 8:22 a.m.

    Your comments are fine as far as they go, but don't really point out the glaring absence of solid offensive play calling by Doman. In the last game, even the announcers were pointing out that screen passes into the flat--time and time again--were getting the team nowhere. That's just one example. Brandon is too predictable with his play calling! Good teams also have more speed to use against us on defense than we have on offense, so we have a hard time running as well as passing the ball. Sure we had no offensive line, no superior quarterback, and no field-goal kicker, but we also lacked a good offensive play caller.

  • ParkerCoug12 Parker, CO
    Dec. 23, 2012 8:41 a.m.

    Dick, do you have any insight on why Coach Mendenhall will not replace Doman as OC? Is this an extreme loyalty issue? This is the obvious place many fans are looking for a change, but you put your emphasis on the OL coach. Seems like a topic the Deseret News staff does not want to touch. Thanks.

  • Red and Blue VANCOUVER, WA
    Dec. 23, 2012 8:52 a.m.

    Doman has to go. Let's not drag this out for another year or so.

  • So. Cal Reader San Diego, CA
    Dec. 23, 2012 8:59 a.m.

    This article is almost laughable. Doman's names isn't even mentioned until the end of the article. "The past three seasons have been defined by controversial QB time-sharing, QB injuries, playing injured QBs and hoping things work." Dick, you were on Nelson's case pretty good during the season. Why not the same approach to an inept offensive coordinator? What you described in this sentance is a head coach who doesn't take control of "the team" and an offensive coordinator who is well in over his head. So, looks like the offensive woes are at the feet of our OLine coach? Come on. Coach Bronco should make the tough call and replace Doman and then be a "head coach" of the entire team. How I wish I saw his same passion towards the offense and the offensive players.

  • Jeff29 Draper, UT
    Dec. 23, 2012 10:16 a.m.

    For all of those questioning Detmer's credentials, you do know that he called most of his own plays as a junior in senior in college and that for 8 of the 14 years in the NFL he was essentially the QB coach / Asst OC, right? Cleveland, Atlanta, and Philadelphia all paid him a lot of money to mentor young QB's and assist with the offense; he was not in any of those places to actually play.

  • buryme Mesa, AZ
    Dec. 23, 2012 10:28 a.m.

    One of the ESPN commentators made the comment that he would like to see even a glimpse of the BYU quarterback of old. And so do all of us. What say you Bronco and Tom?

  • Blue Rampage Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 23, 2012 10:37 a.m.

    I am saddened by the early retirement of Lance Reynolds. After a full year of offensive underachievement forcing the retirement of the TE coach is NOT the answer. If anything, he is the one man who rose up and did his job as he has for the last 30 years. I just hope BYU Administration does the right thing in managing his early retirement.

    Moving forward, figure out how to integrate Louis Wong and Max Hall. Max is the only coach the QBs respect and Wong is not only a great coach but BYU needs to maintain a strong recruiting effort within the Polynesian community.

  • BlueHusky Mission Viejo, CA
    Dec. 23, 2012 11:44 a.m.

    It is clear that the offense has gone off the rails. Firing Anae seems in retrospect to have been a bad decision. Doman was an option QB who pulled out a miracle finish vs Utah and played the next year for Crowton, the author of the gimmick offense that got worse every year. Doman's offensive stats look a lot like Crowton's. Frustration and failure.

    True that Detmer was an unpaid assistant coach in the pros, but he has never run an offense at the collegiate level. Detmer would be a gamble.

    True that Bronco has produced the best defense BYU has ever had. Maybe the best defense I've ever seen. True that Bronco is working well with the missionary problem and has greatly upgraded the recruiting and the strength and conditioning. Amazing how few injuries the defense had compared to the offense.

    Bronco must stay and Holmoe must find a great OC. One who can work with Bronco and who can find, recruit and play the best players. Hmmm. That should be easy.

  • Wayne Rout El Paso, TX
    Dec. 23, 2012 11:46 a.m.

    The problem with the offense is two things. Bringing in an offensive coordinator with zero experience. Not other organization in the country would give the most critical position to someone with no experience. Second, Bronco's playing Riley Nelson who could never do the job just because he liked him rather than because he was the best. The combination of thw two has made the last 3 years a disaster. Maybe they are related. A rookie OC might knuckle under and play Bronco's favorite guy. Robert Anae made a freshman Jake Heaps a bowl game star. Without Robert, Jake suddenly "snaped" balls over his head & had no time to throw. Bronco wanted Jake out and he got his way. We traded a quaterback with great potential for one that had no potential. The offense struggled and will struggle again with Doman in charge. We won't see a strong offensive coordinator under Bronco. Bronco is a great defensive coordinator, but not a head coach.

  • BigCougFan Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 23, 2012 11:49 a.m.

    I have to chuckle at all of the fans who can only look at the past and say that today isn't good enough. I'm glad I'm not in your mindset. Bronco is a great coach and will create a great legacy in this century. Doman is coming of age as an OC and if he's given the proper players to work with will do a great job. He had to call plays that a weak o-line could handle for a constantly changing QB rotation.

    I trust Bronco to make the correct changes but I won't be calling for anyone's head! I'm still proud to be a Cougar and will support them through good seasons and bad.

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    Dec. 23, 2012 12:33 p.m.

    How many times have we heard this? BYU comes up short and immediately the fans want a new Quarterback, and/or a new Offensive Coordinator. Nobody is going to have instant results. There was nothing wrong with Robert Anae or Jake Heaps but the fans drove both of them out of town. You'll never have a great team if you can roll with the punches during the hard times.

  • EdGrady Idaho Falls, ID
    Dec. 23, 2012 1:27 p.m.

    Look for Weber to be the fall guy.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    Dec. 23, 2012 1:53 p.m.

    Re: Jeff29

    "For all of those questioning Detmer's credentials, you do know that he called most of his own plays as a junior in senior in college and that for 8 of the 14 years in the NFL he was essentially the QB coach / Asst OC, right?"

    Play calling as a quarterback is not the same thing as being an OC. Detmer won three games in his first two seasons as a head coach in HS football, I don't see bringing him in as an untested OC as a solution to the myriad problems facing BYU's stagnant offense. In fact, isn't that the number one hit against Doman, that he was a smart QB and a decent QB coach but an inexperienced and untested OC? I vote for moving Doman back to QB coach and bringing in some experience for the O-Line and OC.

  • Pipes Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 23, 2012 2:49 p.m.

    Having Riley Nelson gone could be enough to make the offense great once again. Now they can play as a team and not rely on an incompetent glory hound!

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    Dec. 23, 2012 3:05 p.m.

    I love Detmer and his skill as a BYU QB. But he has no experience as a college OC. Great players aren't necessarily great coaches. Case in point--Mike Singletary as coach for the 49ers. One of the best ever to play the position of middle linebacker. But as a coach, he was awful.

    I, too, thought Doman should be given one more year. But I have changed my mind. Sure he had a weak O-line and injuries, and subpar QB's, but his decision-making and play calling have been very puzzling. He seems to have a limited repertoire in game situations and a tendency to keep trying the same plays over and over again thinking he'll get a different result. It's like he has a short circuit in his brain and keeps falling back to the same plays every time he is befuddled.

    I trust Holmoe. I think he has done a great job. I also think Bronco needs to stay on as HC ). But as much as I like Doman, I think we need to get a new OC with experience and a proven track record. But keep Doman on staff.

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    Dec. 23, 2012 3:29 p.m.

    Doman is in over his head.
    Keep him on staff if he desires, but BYU cannot afford any more of this nonsense.
    He goes or 8k season ticket holders stay home next year.

  • Outsideview Federal Way, WA
    Dec. 23, 2012 5:22 p.m.

    Too bad that the uncontrollable circumstances of injury etc can get a man fired. That coaching.

    One thing is clear, change is needed.

    BYU needs a proven OC. It would be nice if Doman can stay involved but maybe that wont happen. Dont overlook the importance of recruiting in these decisions. BYU seems to be changing the type of QB they recruit (added running ability) as all of college teams are trying to do. Will that stay the same with another OC? Probably. The offensive line certainly needs attention but does that require a new coach? I dont think Mr Wong is the man to do it.

    I guess we will see.

  • So. Cal Reader San Diego, CA
    Dec. 23, 2012 5:41 p.m.

    Re: Cougar Claws "I really think Brandon Doman should be given the benefit of a doubt until after 2013. In all seriousness, look what he has had to deal with at QB." Typical "happy valley" fan. You've got 3 years body of work yet you want to give him another chance. Doman is the OC. HE's the one who makes the decision on the QB and other offensive players- certainly not Bronco with all the attention he gives to the defense. So, Claws, I will give you some credit. Correct, look at what he's had to deal with at QB .... but look at how Doman has mishandled and actually contributed to the QB situation. Another year try, huh?

  • The Rock Federal Way, WA
    Dec. 23, 2012 7:21 p.m.

    While serving my LDS mission, my mission president (a very wealthy oil man from Wyoming)gave us this advice: "Many of you will become managers in your future careers. When you get a new assignment and take over a new organization, don't change anything you don't have to change. It disrupts everything. Wait a while (like a year) and once you know why things are done the way they are done, then phase in your changes."

    Coach Doman changed the entire offense. Jake Heaps was doing great at the close of his freshman year, then something changed. It was the Offensive Coordinator and the entire offensive scheme along with it.

    I work with a relative of Jake Heaps. They inform me that Jake went to the coaching staff and said that they needed to make changes because what they were doing was not working. They finally made the exact changes that Jake suggested but only after Riley was in and Jake was out.

    Doman is a good QB coach. He might make a good OC, but not yet. He needs more experience.
    BYU needs a Norm Chow type as their OC. Look for a change at that position.

  • 32843 PROVO, UT
    Dec. 23, 2012 8:19 p.m.

    It seems as though Harmon lets his respect and admiration for his friends on the coaching staff to cause him to suffer from Bronco-itis, which is, being so loyal to a person that it prevents him from seeing the truth and making the tough decisions that are in the best interest of the team as a whole. He justifies Domans under-performance by citing all the injuries to the o-line. It's like he’s saying Doman was unable to implement the game plan he would have if everyone was healthy. Keep in mind that this is a problem going on three years. And this year we also have a series of poor decisions and bone headed play calling to consider. Getting Hill needlessly injured by calling a running play instead of having him take a knee, which any other competent OC would have done, is reason enough to fire Doman by itself.

    So, Doman needs to go. He's the Riley Nelson of offensive coordinators. He tries really hard and is a great guy and Mendenhall loves him for it. But, he’s hurting the team by staying the OC.

  • 32843 PROVO, UT
    Dec. 23, 2012 8:26 p.m.

    "Cougar Claws
    Lindon, UT
    Brandon Doman also does great things for BYU as a recruiter which often get overlooked. Let's just see what he can do with a real QB after his first couple seasons and reserve judgement until then."

    Some else on this article said we need to give Doman the benefit of the doubt. That's what he's been given and he's not getting it done. If he's a great recruiter, that's great! BYU needs to continue recruiting the best players. So, let him do that and coach the QB's. As an OC, he's a disaster and it needs to be immediately corrected before the 2013 season begins, not at its end.

  • BYU DUDE Provo, UT
    Dec. 23, 2012 10:50 p.m.

    I love Brandon Doman ,

    But its time to hold Brandon accountable for the QB mistakes. Starting Jake Heaps was inexcusable why not develop the kid let him redshirt one year compete for the back up QB position one year and let him Start for 3 years.

    Brandon Doman put all his eggs in Riley Nelsons empty basket , if you cant judge talent you cant be an offensive coordinator.

    Assistant head Coach Lance Reynolds retired why not move Brandon to the the assistant Head Coach , and make him the Recruiting coordinator Brandon is a Great Recruiter.

    One more year of this anemic offense and most of the Offensive coaches will be fired and Bronco with them.

  • Cougar Nation #1 Provo, UT
    Dec. 24, 2012 12:21 a.m.

    riley nelson simply never was a college QB. I personally watched open practice in 2010 and he was the 4th best QB on the team behind Heap, Lark and Munns. He was maybe 3rd or 4th best on this year's team. He should've stayed on special teams. riley nelson's legacy will be a 4-5 record at QB his senior year. Simply awful by BYU's standards. He's definitely one of the worst QBs ever to play at BYU, healthy or not.

  • The Dixie Kid Saint George, UT
    Dec. 24, 2012 8:06 a.m.

    @ Cougar Alumni

    These are not the 1980's anymore. Its a different college football these days, even when Lavell retired 12 years ago (6-6 record.) Holmoe and Bronco have done great things for BYU and will continue to do so. Make an argument were being in the MWC is better than being Indy.

  • essay Redwood Valley, CA
    Dec. 24, 2012 9:53 a.m.

    The offense has not improved since former OC Robert Anae and BYU parted ways. Doman's offense is not imaginative, he couldn't help blue-chipper Jake Heaps progress, and I'm worried he'll do the same with Taysom Hill and Tanner Magnum. It has to change. It appears BYU can recruit well, they just need to be able to coach those recruits to succcess.

  • ParkerCoug12 Parker, CO
    Dec. 24, 2012 10:43 a.m.

    Doman a good QB coach? No way. I am sure Mendenhall will not fire him. He's got that loyalty thing going on with him like Nelson.

  • sls Columbia, MO
    Dec. 24, 2012 12:42 p.m.

    Bronco heeded fan complaints when he fired Robert Anae and replaced him with Doman. Sure, Doman's worse than Anae, but is Bronco likely to commit the same mistake twice with his offensive coordinator position? It's a tougher call the second time around.

  • BYUtah Fan Herriman, UT
    Dec. 24, 2012 2:17 p.m.

    I have a revelation! I don't know what is wrong. Is Doman the problem? Were injuries what brought down the offense? Was the debacle with Heaps what ultimately brought us down? I do know a few things: The defense is fabulous and the offense is terrible and excuses are for losers. FIX IT!! That's not my job nor do I feel competent to prescribe the correct medicine. But, what we are currently doing is not working

  • Wireless Lawyer Lehi, UT
    Dec. 24, 2012 3:25 p.m.

    I can't help but think that if Riley Nelson had suffered a career ending knee injury on the last play of the USU game last year, I would have spent the last 15 months reading about how the loss of the miracle worker QB who saved BYU against the Aggies was the reason behind the BYU's stagnant offense.

    Truth is everyone's crystal ball seems much clearer when you can speculate without any need for objectivity or accountability.

    What I know is that the defense is overachieving and I'm happy to see Mendenhall spend his time trying to make sure that remains the case.

    There's no one answer to the offense, although upgrading the talent can't hurt. And talent isn't just physical...desire is a talent as well. As Hoffman proved this year, a physically talented athlete with a high motor and a good sttitude can prosper in any environment. He obviously didn't have the attitude that he couldn't excel because he had a subpar quarterbacks and an OC trying to find his identity.

  • Born in Provo Logan, UT
    Dec. 24, 2012 8:06 p.m.

    @CWEB
    Regarding Max Hall, he was 2-1 versus Utah. He is also the winningest QB in BYU history. Yeah, he blew it in 2008 against Utah; Unga and Tonga ran for about 250 yards and it was the picks, fumbles, and a personal foul by Hall that wrecked it. But how many BYU QBs in the last 20 years have won 3 times against Utah? Hall was accurate. He struggled against TCU, but against that defense so did a lot of other pocket passers. Riley Nelson scored more points in 2011 against TCU than Heaps (2010), Hall (2009), and Hall (2008) COMBINED.
    Riley Nelson sacrificed his health for the entertainment (and sometimes frustration) of Cougar Nation.
    My thanks to him for all the great moments; they outnumber the frustrating ones.

  • sg newhall, CA
    Dec. 25, 2012 1:10 p.m.

    I agree with everyone else's comments. Doman has to go. He has been the weakest link. Stop feeling obligated to keep him. He should go to another school, best a JC for at least 3 to 5 years to really work on his position. Frankly, he stunk. Heck, why not hire me to be the offensive coordinator? I don't have the experience, but I can learn on the job (just like Doman) and can't do any worse. I love the Blue, but I see Red when I watch this offense for the last two years. It's been nothing less than 'offensive' to the eyes. Get a strong QB and stick with him, unless he fails. The offense needs a major overhaul and it should begin with Doman packing his bags and cleaning out his locker.

  • duckhunter854 Sequim, WA
    Dec. 25, 2012 9:08 p.m.

    My choice is for Andy Reid as OC, with Detmer as QB coach and for goodness sakes have the offense work with whoever the defensive conditioning coach is. Andy would likely only be around a couple seasons before the NFL comes calling and recycling another former coach. Hopefully by then Detmer would be ready to take over as OC

  • CougarBlue Heber City, UT
    Dec. 26, 2012 8:52 a.m.

    You can't lay the blame on Doman. Doman had to try and figure out how to execute a play when his offensive line was more pourous than a sieve and could not hold defensive players out of the backfield. The play blew up before it started.

    Then we had a QB who did not truly understand honesty. When asked if he was ready he said yes, then went out on the field and showed he was not truly healthy enough to play. You can be gutsy and courageous, but it still won't overcome physical handicaps. You cannot execute plays when you are injured that you execute when healthy. Reilly hurt the team by saying he was ready when he really wasn't. He was in it to show how gutsy he was, not a team player. I lay the blame for our losses to ND, SJ, Ute and BSU squarely on his shoulders. OSU was a team loss.

    The offensive line needs to sit down and talk with the defense and figure out why they achieved, despite some injuries. The offense was probably the worst I have ever seen at BYU.

  • CougarBlue Heber City, UT
    Dec. 26, 2012 9:01 a.m.

    Those who wonder why Ty Detmer is mentioned have not been serious readers of many sports articles. Coaches in the NFL were amazed at his knowledge about the offense and even implemented many of his tactics on their teams. They would sit with him and discuss football and were continuously astonished at his insight why a play broke down and what needed to be done to correct it. He accomplished a great deal as an undersized QB in college and in the NFL. It was because of his insight and knowledge that he played as many years in the NFL that he did.

    If you are going to be a true BYU fan how about becoming a truly knowledgeable BYU fan. One who reads more than just the DN, but accessed multiple media and pays attention. That is my knock on my fellow BYU fans. Too many knee-jerk reactions.

    Again, as far as Doman is concerned those who are calling for his head have never had to deal with a very weak offensive line who could not keep a newly born toddler out of the QB's face.

    Please don't get me started on Riley.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    Dec. 26, 2012 7:42 p.m.

    RE: CougarBlue

    "Those who wonder why Ty Detmer is mentioned have not been serious readers of many sports articles..."

    Or maybe, as I mentioned on an earlier post in this thread, we've simply seen his track record as a head coach (3-13) and have objectively noted that he needs experience before he is ready for the big time. As a "true BYU fan" that is "truly knowledgeable" and "reads multiple media and pays attention" I sure hope that BYU does not gamble on another unproven OC (a la Doman), it's simply not worth the risk. But thank you for being condescending to me and many other "true fans", I'm always happy to be clumped in with any meaningless generalization.

  • The Deuce Livermore, CA
    Dec. 27, 2012 2:45 a.m.

    It is time to replace the head coach and OC. These two individuals did more to drag down this team than anything I have ever seen. When will the BYU AD stand up and keep his promise to change things in this program. I do not expect the offense to change at all if these two remain. If I were an offensive player, BYU would be the last place I would go. Is this just not clear to BYU at this point? They are drinking the coolaid, but I am not sure from which bottle.

  • Central Texan Buda, TX
    Dec. 27, 2012 8:37 a.m.

    The BYU passing game with Riley at the helm seemed to be very limited: Hit Hoffman if he's open -- if not, throw a poor pass (or interception) into coverage or tuck and run.

    Hoffman is a great player and proven go-to guy, but the days of the great BYU offenses consisted of a QB that could find the tight end and other receivers as well. Friel and Apo are great players. We should have been hearing their names more often as the offense marched up and down the field.

  • Bomar Roberts, ID
    Dec. 27, 2012 2:43 p.m.

    Wayne Rout

    Your dead wrong about no other school bringing in an inexperienced OC. We need look no further than the neighbor to the north, the U of Utah. We also see what they got with Brian Johnson.

  • BigCougar Bountiful, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 6:45 p.m.

    Even if Doman has been a sub par QB coach and OC, he has been a great recruiter, one of the best on the staff. I'd like to see him stay with the program just in another capacity. With Reynolds retiring maybe they could move Doman to AHC (Reynold's old spot) and then hire someone to come in and coach the offense and QB's (preferably 2 different guys).