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  • #1 Champ Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 12, 2012 12:29 p.m.

    its been fun following Ziggy. You don't see Utah developing a player from zero to hero.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 12, 2012 12:50 p.m.

    @#1 Champ:

    We're in the Pac 12. Unlike byU, we don't have to recruit zeroes. Can't turn a zero into a hero when you don't start with any zeroes.

    Case in point: Your latest recruit, Bernard the running back or whatever his name is. He wanted to go the U, but we didnt offer him. So he settled for byU.

    P.S. Bronco didnt even recruit this kid. So even after he goes to the NFL, that will take the number of players that Bronco recruited and put in teh NFL from what? Like 0 to 0?

    Meanwhile, Dunn and Star will put the number above 25 of players Whitt has recruited and put in the NFL.

    I love the BCS, being ina BCS conferece, with BCS talent, and BCS coaches. And BCS money.

    I heart the BCS!

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 12, 2012 12:51 p.m.

    Tell the story again about how he didnt even know how to put on his pads a couple years ago.

    We haven't heard that one in a couple of days

  • Arynen Midvale, UT
    Dec. 12, 2012 1:19 p.m.

    Chris B,

    Enjoy that BCS talent Utah has and your bowl game this year....

    Umm...

    Wait.

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    Dec. 12, 2012 1:26 p.m.

    Chris B

    When did Utah ban walkons from joining the team?

    BYU didn't recruit Ziggy, he was a walkon.

    Your "case in point" is completely arbitrary and meaningless.

    Bronco is the one who allowed Ziggy to join the team and gave him the opportunity to be coached and eventually play the game.

    None of Whittingham's players, recruits or walkons, have even come close to matching the accomplishment of joining the team with ZERO football experience and leaving the team as a potential first round draft pick.

    The simple truth is, BYU's coaches have played an integral role in an accomplishment that will NEVER be matched by the Utes.

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    Dec. 12, 2012 1:31 p.m.

    Chris B

    How's that new recruiting pitch working out for the Utes?

    You know, the one where the Utes guarantee that the recruit will be home for the holidays?

    The closer to bowl week we get, the more desperate and irrational the posts from the hill become.

    Enjoy the couch potato bowl.

  • Still Blue after all these years Kaysville, UT
    Dec. 12, 2012 1:51 p.m.

    As a Cougar fan, I wonder about Ziggy and his so-called development at BYU. Ziggy did not start for BYU until there were 9 games left in his senior season, and then only because the guy in front of him got hurt. I doubt the talent he immediately showed did not develop immediately. He was probably good enough to start at the beginning of this year, and very probabaly good enough last year. Bronco chose not to play him until injury forced his hand. We all know about Riley and Bronco. I'm wondering who else is sitting on the bench at BYU that should be playing a lot more.

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 12, 2012 2:01 p.m.

    @Arynen

    "Chris B, Enjoy that BCS talent Utah has and your bowl game this year.... Umm... Wait."

    Before you insert your foot any further into your mouth, you might want to check out who's projected to be the number one draft pick in the article released today by draft analyst Todd McShay of ESPN. Yeah, that would be Star Lotulelei from the U of U.

  • phoenix Gilbert, AZ
    Dec. 12, 2012 2:03 p.m.

    Still Blue after all these years

    Read the full article about Ziggy, now posted in SI, and you'll get a better understanding of why Ziggy didn't start earlier in his BYU football career.

    Bottom line, even a player as physically talented as Ziggy, needs time to learn the game.

  • Whatsnu Sandy, UT
    Dec. 12, 2012 2:11 p.m.

    Snack PAC

    Utah's new emphasis on family time during the holidays should be a big hit with the fans - gathering the family around the old black and white with chips and dip at hand to watch bowl week is a great way to bond.

  • deductive reasoning Arlington, VA
    Dec. 12, 2012 2:16 p.m.

    motorbike

    "... check out who's projected to be the number one draft pick..."

    How embarrassing it must be for U to have the number one draft pick and still not be good enough to beat a lowly WAC team to qualify for a bowl!

  • Ragnar Danneskjold Bountiful, UT
    Dec. 12, 2012 3:12 p.m.

    I have a lot of respect for Ziggy and his story, but let's see what happens. I don't get it, the BYU fans really have zero ground to stand on when it comes to draft smack, but you are going on and on. It is impressive to take Ziggy's lack of football knowledge and make him NFL ready, but this is really just an extremely unique story. You can't question the ability of Whit to take average rated players out of high school and get them ready for the NFL. That is a lingering question for Bronco. Whit has put many more players in the league than Bronco with pretty similar recruiting rankings.
    Congrats to Ziggy if he gets drafted in the first round. But anybody who wants to be taken seriously knows that Bronco has not done a terrific job in this area.

  • wer South Jordan, UT
    Dec. 12, 2012 4:01 p.m.

    Hoffman and Van Noy would be wise to play their senior years. In spite of what any and everybody may say, very few college athletes play more than a little in the NFL, and former BYU players hardly at all.

  • Wookie Omaha, NE
    Dec. 12, 2012 4:24 p.m.

    This is a great story about what appears to be a good person. Good luck Ziggy...!

  • 1984 Herriman, UT
    Dec. 12, 2012 4:28 p.m.

    @Chris B

    I love BYU!!!

    Glad to know Chris loves the BCS and the PAC12. Maybe some day he will learn to love the Utes too

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Dec. 12, 2012 5:14 p.m.

    @motorbike

    "Before you insert your foot any further into your mouth,"

    Say's the guy who was in the process of inserting his foot in his mouth with that statement. Even if Star is the #1 overall pick it has exactly zero to do with Arynen's post. What is relevent about his post is the FACT that with all of the supposed tlaent utah has and all of the guys whittingham has personally made into NFL players (lol) they are still not going to a bowl game this year. They are still on a downward trajectory. They still had a losing overall record this season. They still had their second straight losing conference season. Then of course there is the small fact that Arynen didn't say a word about any of what you decided to blather about. He simply pointed out that despite all of the "bcs talent" christina b was bragging about utah is a losing team with a losing record with no bowl game to play in and a bunch of desperate "fans". LOL!

    Talk about putting ones foot in ones mouth....

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 12, 2012 5:14 p.m.

    @deductive reasoning

    "motorbike, How embarrassing it must be for U to have the number one draft pick and still not be good enough to beat a lowly WAC team to qualify for a bowl!"

    To which I say ... how embarrassing it must be for you to only qualify for bowl game based on scheduling so many lower-half-of-the-WAC teams.

    Yeah, cause that's something to be proud of.

  • Proud Ute ,
    Dec. 12, 2012 5:50 p.m.

    Good luck to Ziggy and any of the other coogs that declare for the draft. I'm really hoping someone from that program finally get's drafted.
    Just like using "scoreboard" when pointing out the face to face record of the last decade, it's just too easy to point out to the blue goggled set Bronco's dismal record at developing highly rated recruits into NFL players.
    Sad really how much talent that staff has squandered.

  • GoRed WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    Dec. 12, 2012 6:02 p.m.

    @#1 Champ

    We can't even make it past the first comment without a reference to the Utes. Obsessed, are we?

    @Uteanymous

    And your very moniker shows your obsession with your rival.

    @deductive reasoning

    "How embarrassing it must be for U to have the number one draft pick and still not be good enough to beat a lowly WAC team to qualify for a bowl!"

    Uh, that "lowly WAC team" was 10-2 and came 5 points away from being undefeated. Without the aid of several questionable calls that went against them, they would have beaten your team from Provo.

    And BYU fans, if Utah had played BYU's cream puff schedule, they would have been 9-3, maybe 10-2. And conversely, if BYU had played Utah's schedule, your team would have been 4-8 at the best, although 3-9 would have been more likely.

    By the way, how did BYU do against Utah this year?

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Dec. 12, 2012 6:34 p.m.

    Ragnar Danneskjold

    Well, sorry but I don't think the season ticket holders bought tickets so they could see future NFL players back in the day.

    Lets be honest, both teams had higher expectations going into the season. Is having the number one draft pick a better consolation prize than going to a bowl game? For the fans? The team?

  • dumprake Washington, UT
    Dec. 12, 2012 7:03 p.m.

    In an article like this where you mention Ziggy's speed, you need to tell the reader what that is. You mention his size, you should tell the reader how tall he is, and his weight, and wingspan. Somehow you managed to leave all those details out. It's an incomplete article.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Dec. 12, 2012 8:37 p.m.

    Wow, this story got hi-jacked by the moronic statements of Chris B. and others.

    Congrats to Ziggy, this is truly an amazing accomplishment. Nothing but praise for this kid and hopefully the opportunity ahead of him.

    Who would criticize or belittle this?

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Dec. 12, 2012 9:24 p.m.

    @sammyg

    "Who would criticize or belittle this?"

    I know that was a rhetorical question but the answer is pretty obvious isn't it?

  • Proud Ute ,
    Dec. 12, 2012 10:36 p.m.

    sammyg

    Springville, UT

    Wow, this story got hi-jacked by the moronic statements of Chris B. and others.

    Congrats to Ziggy, this is truly an amazing accomplishment. Nothing but praise for this kid and hopefully the opportunity ahead of him.

    Who would criticize or belittle this?

    Duckhunter

    Highland, UT

    @sammyg

    "Who would criticize or belittle this?"

    I know that was a rhetorical question but the answer is pretty obvious isn't it?

    Just curious.....
    Do you have to log off when you answer yourself like this?

  • UteMiguel Go Utes, CA
    Dec. 12, 2012 10:46 p.m.

    Chris b, you embarrass real ute fans.

    BYU fans who continue to get baited by chris b, you embarrass yourselves.

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 12, 2012 11:41 p.m.

    @Duckhunter

    It never gets old to see how badly it irritates you to see the Utes steal your thunder. Sometimes I actually feel sorry for you, but mostly it just makes me laugh.

  • trentster TUSTIN, CA
    Dec. 12, 2012 11:50 p.m.

    My ten year old granddaughter could have written a more complete and informative article than this one. Come on, sharpen the pencil or word processor or whatever you are using and inform your reading public. Please!

  • canadiancougar624 Pleasant Grove, UT
    Dec. 13, 2012 12:07 a.m.

    Is it just me or do Utah fans care more about BYU than they do about their own team??

  • kosimov Riverdale, UT
    Dec. 13, 2012 6:42 a.m.

    For those who are squawking about NFL draft picks from Utah OR BYU:

    You miss the point when you argue either way about this. It is widely known that the Y has limiting conduct, morality and "honor code" rules which greatly limit the size and qualities of the field of young men BYU can recruit from. As a BYU alum, I am happy to accept that, as well as to accept that not very many BYU players will be top draft picks: the honor code excludes many potential football stars. Many people, including football fans, ESPECIALLY the fans, are glad to have players with the highest moral and ethical character represent the school in athletics. While the U, like any government sponsored school, must formally disregard the conduct and moral character of athletes; a coach MUST place players in the NFL much as a professor is expected to publish or go elsewhere. Bronco has a different directive from the Y's administrators and financial backers, the LDS church, than Whit does. LaVelle focused more on character building than winning games, with success in both areas; Bronco must follow his leader's wishes and do likewise. We must be patient.

  • metamoracoug metamora, IL
    Dec. 13, 2012 6:57 a.m.

    UteMiguel: Well said.

    Ansah has been fun to watch and maybe we can find a few more like him in Ghana?

  • 2BCSWINS West of I15, UT
    Dec. 13, 2012 8:52 a.m.

    @KOSIMOV....Get off your high horse every school recruits high character young men. Do you honestly believe coaches go around alright lets find the worst behaved young men in america for our squad. Do you honestly believe low character athletes are the only one's making it to the NFL?

    The honor code is a very poor excuse for not putting players in the NFL, loses, etc. Every football team has their own team rules that players must abide by. Every coach wants hard working high character young men on their team.

  • Byufanforlife Pacific Grove, CA
    Dec. 13, 2012 8:57 a.m.

    To all you ute fans Utah did offer Bernard a scholarship but as defensive back he wanted to play running back so he chose Byu secondly Star WILL NOT be a number overall pick he was always projected to be in the top 3 or 5 most likely Matt Barkley or Geno smith will be picked first, also most of whits player in the NFL are buried in the depth chart or on the practice squad with the with the exception of Eric weddle(although urban Meyer coached him too) and with byu players a lot of them have had success in the NFL, Steve young,vai sikahema,Ty detmer Jim McMahon Brett keisel but recently like Utahs player they are buried in the depth chart or on the practice squad too with the exception of Dennis Pitta and Dallas Reynolds

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Dec. 13, 2012 9:06 a.m.

    @motorbike

    How is you sticking your foot in your mouth "stealing my thunder"? That doesn't make a bit of sense.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    Dec. 13, 2012 9:16 a.m.

    After reading everything I could about Ziggy (so I could write his wiki article), I became increasingly impressed with his story but also relieved that he didn't start until mid-way through this season. He isn't proven and he'll likely be selected high in the draft more for his story than his stats. Yes, watching him shows he is likely an NFL talent, but we don't know that for sure, yet. Because he has been so dominant over just a few games, and because he doesn't have next year to prove himself, he will probably get lucky and be drafted based on a very small sampling of his potential. This never happens in the NFL (like it does in the NBA) so Ziggy is very fortunate that news sources have repeatedly mentioned his inability to put on pads, his trying out for the basketball team, etc. Everyone likes a good story.
    He could also credit much of his draft status to KVN, who probably did just as much Ziggy coaching as the rest of the Cougar staff. It'll be fun to see both of these young men excel at the next level. Go Cougs!

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Dec. 13, 2012 10:01 a.m.

    deductive reasoning:

    "How embarrassing it must be for U to have the number one draft pick and still not be good enough to beat a lowly WAC team to qualify for a bowl!"

    So the current #18 team in the country is "lowly" now? That sure doesn't suggest there's been any "deductive reasoning" in YOUR frantic and emotional post. And for what it's worth, we DID beat a lowly WAC team this year. We beat the cougars last September, remember?

    The last time one of our two programs lost to a "lowly WAC team" was when you guys got routed 31-16 in Logan vs. a 4-8 Aggie squad back in 2010. And if I recall correctly, the cougars needed to pack their alumni up in the replay booth vs. SDSU to ensure they'd finish 6-6, rather than 5-7 that year. Recognize.

  • Snark Provo, UT
    Dec. 13, 2012 10:14 a.m.

    Ansah is a remarkable story that has no relation to Utah. Star is a remarkable story without reference to BYU. Those that read for the enjoyment of human achievement will take pleasure in both stories. Those who read for ammunition to continue aged and Limburger-like playground blustering clog the the discourse and obscure the good that could come from civil dialogue.

    Set up a machismo blog site and challenge all comers if you want to continue the boorish and beleaguered bantering, and leave the comments on thoughtful articles to those with something relevant to say.

  • 2BCSWINS West of I15, UT
    Dec. 13, 2012 10:41 a.m.

    @cougiefanforlife...."also most of whits player in the NFL are buried in the depth chart or on the practice squad with the with the exception of Eric weddle"

    Really? you must not watch the NFL that much. Zane Beadles going to be all pro linemen for AFC west champs, Bryce Mccain starting corner for best team in AFC texans, Sean Smith Koa Misi, RJ stanford & Paul Solai all start for Dolphins. Sionne Pouha best Def player on the Jets outside revis, Tony Bergstrom starting tackle for the raiders, Robert Johnson starting saftey for Titans, Paul Kruger starting OLB for ravens, Steven sylvester LB steelers.

    Yes we also have several back ups as well not sure how having 0 is better then this. Guess we are talking cougie logic though....LOL

  • phoenix Gilbert, AZ
    Dec. 13, 2012 10:50 a.m.

    GoRed

    "if Utah had played BYU's cream puff schedule, they would have been 9-3, maybe 10-2."

    LOL!

    IF Utah had played BYU's schedule, the Utes would have been destroyed by Notre Dame, Oregon State ( no brainer) and Georgia Tech, and would have lost to Utah State (no brainer), San Jose State, Boise State. Best case scenario is Utah would have finished 6-6 an bowl eligible, but since Utah has proven that they're capable of losing to ANYBODY, with the pressure of qualifying for a bowl, the Utes would have probably lost to Colorado, AGAIN, to finish 5-7, exactly where the Utes finished.

    "And conversely, if BYU had played Utah's schedule, your team would have been 4-8 at the best, although 3-9 would have been more likely."

    IF BYU had played Utah's schedule, the Cougars would have beaten Northern Colorado, Utah State (no brainer), Washington State (no brainer), and Colorado, with a good chance of winning two or even all three versus Washington, Arizona, and Arizona State, and a possible upset of USC. Worst case scenario, 6-6; likely 7-5.

    btw, BYU was one mis-snap scoop and score away from beating Utah.

  • phoenix Gilbert, AZ
    Dec. 13, 2012 11:08 a.m.

    Naval Vet

    "So the current #18 team in the country is "lowly" now? "

    Do you understand what hyperbole is?

    According to our friends on the hill, EVERY WAC team is "lowly".

    If you don't believe that, do a quick search past D-news blogs and you'll find a constant stream of disparaging comments about the WAC posted by jealous Utah fans since BYU's short-term scheduling agreement with the WAC became public.

    Obviously, Utah State and San Jose State aren't lowly this season, but unlike our friends on the hill, BYU fans are smart enough to recognize that conference affiliation doesn't determine how good a team is. There are teams in the MAC this year that are MUCH better than some of the teams in the PAC 10.2, including U.

  • Christy B Salt Lake City, Utah
    Dec. 13, 2012 11:18 a.m.

    The hysterical jealous frenzy Ziggy's story is causing amongst Ute faithful is truly disturbing for the fan base of a program of Utah's stature.

    Try as we might to find it's equal in Ute lore, we're simply grasping at straws and must once again admit that BYU's reality is Utah's fantasy.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Dec. 13, 2012 11:43 a.m.

    @naval vet

    Look at the positive of this years utah record. Since they are not going to a play in a bowl game this year you don't have to pretend that you went to it like you did last year.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Dec. 13, 2012 12:36 p.m.

    Byufanforlife:

    "To all you ute fans Utah did offer Bernard a scholarship but as defensive back he wanted to play running back so he chose Byu..."

    Not according to Rivals or Scout. And, according to Jay Drew:

    "News of Bernard's commitment comes a day after the Cougars learned that Bingham High receiver Hayden Weichers, who pledged last summer, has decommitted and now plans to sign with Utah State...Coincidentally, Bernard said his only other offer came from Utah State. He drew some interest from the school that has been his favorite growing up, Utah, but no offer."

    So there you have it. He received no offer from Utah, and only received one other offer from Utah State. You were wrong. Are you man enough to admit it?

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Dec. 13, 2012 12:41 p.m.

    Duckhunter:

    Do you have any proof that I didn't fly to El Paso last December for the Sun Bowl vs. Ga. Tech, or were you just posting more of your trademark frantic and emotional sour grapes?

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Dec. 13, 2012 1:53 p.m.

    @naval vet

    "Proof? Link? Evidence?"

    I'm always amused by your calls for "proof". How would anyone 'prove' anything on a message board full of people from all over the country? I suppose it is possible that you might have gone but I'll go with the percentages and say that is about a .0000000000001% chance. That is the number of actual utah "fans" that did go to America's armpit for that "prestigious" bowl game last year and I'm sure you weren't one of them.

    It is amazing how many of utah "fans" I have talked to this year that make that claim when the truth is less than 2000 utah "fans" actually bought tickets. If they are all telling the truth then I must have actually run in to every single one of them this past year.

    LOL!

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 13, 2012 2:42 p.m.

    @Duckhunter
    "How is you sticking your foot in your mouth "stealing my thunder"? That doesn't make a bit of sense."

    This from the guy who continually makes the absolute least sense on every Utah/BYU related thread. You are leader of the pack when it comes to spin, getting off topic, and making up ridiculous stats and percentages regarding things you no little to nothing about.

    The funniest thing of all is that you actually convince yourself that what you spew forth is actually true, and I think you believe there are others out there who buy into all your misguided, blue-goggled hype.

    But thank you... I can always count on you for my daily ab workout. LOL!

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Dec. 13, 2012 3:16 p.m.

    @motorbike

    You are going to have to do better than that since it once again had absolutely nothing to do with the question asked. You're really struggling today, hope you get it worked out soon.

  • scenic view Baltimore, MD
    Dec. 13, 2012 3:21 p.m.

    motorbike

    "making up ridiculous stats and percentages regarding things you no little to nothing about"

    What exactly does "no little to nothing" mean?

    ---------

    naval vet

    Anybody who would travel from Phily to El Paso to spend New Years Eve in the armpit of America must be a real glutton for punishment... which makes your story all the more, er, less, credible.

  • Byufanforlife Pacific Grove, CA
    Dec. 13, 2012 5:53 p.m.

    @2BCSWINS what I was trying to say is you can't bash on byu players not having success in the NFL because a lot of Utah players also haven't had success in the NFL and last time I checked the patriots were the best team in the AFC after Tom Brady lit up the texans secondary(which as you stated Bryce McCain is a starter for them)

  • Osgrath Provo, UT
    Dec. 13, 2012 7:51 p.m.

    This has been without a doubt the silliest, pettiest and most juvenile comment thread I have read - at least within the past several years. A bunch of "My dad can beat up your dad" and "I am a better person because I root for a superior team." Since when does who I root for have life and death consequences. I would be a Cougar fan even if they went 2 - 10 one year. I also hope that Utah and Utah State always have great seasons. It doesn't make me feel better when the Utes lose - and why should it. It doesn't make me a better person, it doesn't bump up my rate of pay or make my kids love me more. I'll be driving the same car regardless of how the Cougars do in the Poinsettia Bowl. I'll watch and hope and cheer. If they win, I will be happy but won't feel like I have to announce my superiority to the world. If they lose, I won't slit my wrists or get drunk or depressed. Obla dee obla da, life goes on!

  • Cougarista Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 14, 2012 10:44 a.m.

    Amazing story of an amazing young man.

  • Tjmillz Idaho Falls, ID
    Dec. 16, 2012 10:22 a.m.

    I think it's sad that this is a good article about a young man who has worked really hard and now is going to be rewarded for his efforts and you guys have to turn it into a BYU Utah argument. Whether he goes to Utah or BYU I think we should be proud of the young men that work hard and get to show that work in th nfl! Both Bronco and Whittingham are great coaches and I'm sure they are proud of their athletes that have worked hard and get to take that next step. To both of those coaches it's about the players not themselves.

  • Cougarista Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 24, 2012 10:27 a.m.

    They triple teamed Ziggy in San Diego and the other defensive players benefitted. Ansah is not only a player, he is a gentleman and legitimate student, a great credit to BYU and collegiate athletics. Good hunting in the NFL Ziggy.