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BYU football: BYU lands top Oregon linebacker prospect Johnny Ragin

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  • Outsideview Federal Way, WA
    Dec. 6, 2012 10:09 p.m.

    I would hope that this guy can help get the highly regarded offensive lineman from Oregon who decommitted from BYU to consider committing again. Shipley did it, why not this guy (Braden Kersely ? or something like that)

  • CWEB Orem, UT
    Dec. 6, 2012 10:10 p.m.

    Sweet, welcome to BYU! Hope you enjoy a great career! Utah is a great place to live! Mountains, National Parks, etc.!

  • Cougar Claws Lindon, UT
    Dec. 7, 2012 1:16 a.m.

    Chaching! This guy is a big time get for next year's defense. Sadly I hope it is not a big indication that KVN is going to the league next year, even though odds probably were that this was the case, whether we got this guy or not . . . I hope I'm wrong.

    Either way, congrats to him! He sounds like a great kid who will do well. Now if we could just get Brayden Kearsley to recommit that is the most that we could hope for for this recruiting class. He would really be the big one who got away if we miss out on him.

  • DC Alexandria, VA
    Dec. 7, 2012 6:35 a.m.

    Uh oh, he sounds like he's a type A personality and believes he can play from day one. Bronco won't like that. Look for another good player to ride the bench and play back up until he earns the right to play through tenure.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Dec. 7, 2012 6:41 a.m.

    The BYU honor code is sometimes its best recruiting tool. Not only for great athletes but especially for people with high academic and lifestyle standards.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Dec. 7, 2012 7:15 a.m.

    "I always feel a positive vibe when I’m there and when I talk to coaches."

    That's the best kind of exposure.

  • skywalker Palo Alto, CA
    Dec. 7, 2012 7:59 a.m.

    DC

    KVN started as a Freshman and that's worked out pretty well.

    There's a HUGE difference between a Freshman starting at QB and a Freshman starting at another position.

    A starting QB is expected to be a team leader.

    A running back or linebacker only needs to worry about playing his own position and can leave the leadership tasks to the upper-classmen.

    As far a KVN moving on to the next level, I would be very surprised to see him back in a BYU uniform next season.

  • Wookie Omaha, NE
    Dec. 7, 2012 8:40 a.m.

    I admire and respect a young man that is not of the LDS Faith that recognizes the value of the Honor Code. Good Luck with your time at BYU and beyond!

    Go UTES!!

  • Jo Nampa, ID
    Dec. 7, 2012 8:48 a.m.

    He looks legit! I'm so impressed with these recruits. Young men like this who are not LDS but who are eager to live by the Honor Code help give me hope in this world. It's difficult for Young Men who ARE LDS to live by the Honor Code.

    Welcome, Johnny Ragin! Glad to have Poppinga scouting NFL type talent. Heard rumors KVN is going, I'd hate to lose him just because he's so fun to watch. But whatever he chooses, we'll follow him just like we do all the other BYU players.

  • DEW Cougars Sandy, UT
    Dec. 7, 2012 8:47 a.m.

    Welcome aboard Johnny Ragin. He sure doesn't sound like a kid which I like about him. Ragin(g) line backer, watch out qb oponent. This sounds good to call him - RAGING QB or something for his frame.

  • WhatsInItForMe Orem, Utah
    Dec. 7, 2012 9:04 a.m.

    Nice video!

    A linebacker with receiver hands! And appears to have good speed.

    Nice to see the Honor Code get recognized as a positive by non-LDS athletes.

  • IRS Agent PROVO, UT
    Dec. 7, 2012 9:11 a.m.

    Wait, did I miss something? When did BYU join the PAC? We were assured by our friends to the North that BYU would never win a recruit from the teams in Conference of Champions, so the only explanation for signing this guy would be that BYU joined that conference.

    It sounds to me like the best recruiting tool BYU has is to get the recruit's Mom to come to campus for the official visit. It isn't hard to sell Mom on the Honor Code, education, etc. Wise play BYU.

  • BYU Deek Spanish Fork, UT
    Dec. 7, 2012 9:23 a.m.

    Just so everyone is aware. . . about a week ago Brayden Kearsley tweeted out that he never decommitted from BYU. . . so saying that you hope he will recommit is pointless, since he is still committed. Just sayin'

    Also, Ragin is a great pickup, I wish him the best of luck! Can't wait to see him wearing a nice big Y on his helmet.

    Go Cougs!

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    Dec. 7, 2012 10:01 a.m.

    Strong work Kelly Poppinga!! Thanks to him, another addition to a strong line backing corps.

  • Riddles in the Dark Olympus Cove, Utah
    Dec. 7, 2012 10:04 a.m.

    "Johnny Ragin committed to BYU coaches overnight, choosing BYU over Oregon State, Colorado, and Cal, among others."

    Ragin said, "I’m not LDS, but the Honor Code is something I love about BYU and it’s how I choose to live, so that was a big factor in my decision.”

    Lots of myths about recruiting that have been promoted by our friends up north debunked in those two short statements.

    Welcome aboard Johnny! We look forward to seeing you in BYU blue next season.

  • BlueCoug Orem, UT
    Dec. 7, 2012 10:32 a.m.

    Welcome aboard Johnny!

    It's great to see you join an ever-growing tradition of outstanding BYU linebackers.

  • oldcougar Orem, UT
    Dec. 7, 2012 10:57 a.m.

    Cant' wait to see him on the field. He looks like the real deal in the vid. He reminds me of Tommy Holmoe's older broather, Steve, with whom I played with in HS in SoCal. Great athlete!

  • Just Wondering... Gilbert, AZ
    Dec. 7, 2012 11:28 a.m.

    ...why any recruit would turn down a Pac10 team, since any team is the Pac10 is better than any team outside of the Pac10??

  • C.J. Richmond, VA
    Dec. 7, 2012 11:55 a.m.

    As an alum of BYU I can say this is the right choice. If someone loves what the Honor Code stands for he will not be disappointed going to BYU. It will allow him to just focus on football and school without the distractions other schools have. Plus, BYU has a long line of great linebackers, many of whom have had very successful NFL careers. Welcom Ragin!

  • 3grandslams Iowa City, IA
    Dec. 7, 2012 12:17 p.m.

    Love it! The D will be incredible for many years to come. Glad this kid is coming. Another "win" for Bronco.

  • CougFaninWA Bothell, WA
    Dec. 7, 2012 12:17 p.m.

    Way to represent Wilsonville, Johnny! My HOMETOWN!

    Can't wait to see you in Cougar Blue!

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    Dec. 7, 2012 12:48 p.m.

    3 star rated... big deal...

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    Dec. 7, 2012 1:04 p.m.

    Howard S.

    The vast majority of Utah's recruits are rated 3-stars or fewer (mostly fewer).

    If you were a USC fan, that comment might make some sense; for a Utah fan, you're simply grasping at straws.

  • Silent Lurker Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 7, 2012 1:15 p.m.

    Isn't it enough just to wish him well and welcome him to your school? Many of these posts are simply laughable, some of you are into bragging about getting a recruit that had offers from another PAC 12 school. He seems to be very solid recruit, but please...nobody wins all the recruiting battles not even U$C or Oregon. The question you should be asking yourselves is how many kids did BYU miss out on to PAC 12 schools because of the HC and environment?

  • 4601 Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 7, 2012 1:26 p.m.

    Just wondering,
    By the tone of your question I don't think you would understand the answer.

  • NWCougar Wilsonville, OR
    Dec. 7, 2012 1:29 p.m.

    Tanner and Johnny attend our local high school and we're so proud of both of them. Tanner is a fine young man--he attends our ward and we couldn't be happier for him and his future. Can't wait to see both of them in BYU blue next fall!

  • COUGARNATE Lyman, WY
    Dec. 7, 2012 1:48 p.m.

    Sweet, another outstanding linebacker to come play for the Cougs. Lets hope he is the BYU "Jonny Football".

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    Dec. 7, 2012 1:58 p.m.

    @Uteanymous

    Actually Utah has 24 commits and 21 of them are 3 star or higher.

    BYU has 9 commits ranked 3 star or higher.

    BYUs recruiting class is currently ranked 52nd... Utahs class is ranked 28th.

    Even with its higher ranker recruiting class the DN doesn't publish articles referring to Utah recruits as "top" recruits.

  • Marked it Down Park City, UT
    Dec. 7, 2012 2:33 p.m.

    Howard S.

    LOL at your spin.

    Utah currently has 24 commits - only ONE is rated higher than a 3 star.

    Interestingly, the same number of 4-star recruits as BYU.

    What's truly laughable about the obsession Utah fans have with stars, is Utah fans are constantly bragging about Utah's 0-star walk-ons.

    If a 0-star walk-on can be great and a 5-star commit can be a bust, just how much stock should we put in stars anyway?

    btw,

    USC currently has 16 commits, FIVE 5-star, ELEVEN 4-star, NONE with less than 4 stars. USC gets more 4- and 5- recruits in a single year, than Utah gets in a decade.

    Let's see you spin how the Utes are EVER going to win the PAC 12 South, let alone the PAC 12 championship with such an overwhelming disparity in stars.

    Begin spin cycle...

  • Samwise Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 7, 2012 2:34 p.m.

    Wait... I'm confused... I thought independent BYU couldn't ever possibly compete with the Pac 12 in recruiting. I thought BYU Football was doomed now that Utah was in the Pac 12 and no good recruits would ever go to BYU ever again. Why did he turn down Pac 12 offers to play at BYU? Can someone please explain this to me?

  • IRS Agent PROVO, UT
    Dec. 7, 2012 2:43 p.m.

    @ Howard S.

    Despite the fact that he was only rated three stars, half of the PAC teams were recruiting him. And come to think of it, all of those teams are better than Utah. So please explain how it is that all of a sudden he has no talent? Does one ever get tired of talking out of both sides of their mouth?

  • Rockwell Baltimore, MD
    Dec. 7, 2012 2:50 p.m.

    Samwise

    You're fine; it's our friends on the hill have always been confused by the stars in their eyes.

    Like Howard S., they only make a big deal about stars when it conveniently suits their agenda, then the become completely oblivious to stars when the start talking about Utah's chances of being competitive in the PAC 12.

    Let's just put it this way:

    Utah will NEVER, not in a million years, EVER, have a recruiting class ranked higher than USC!

    -----

    Leaving the pointless stars discussion,

    Welcome aboard Johnny Ragin - we're looking forward to seeing you continue BYU's tradition of outstanding linebackers.

  • Cougar Passion Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 7, 2012 2:51 p.m.

    I took "Just Wondering"'s question to be rhetorical, sarcastic, and a dig at those who proclaim superiority for the Pac 12, which is why I "liked" it.

    With regard to "Silent Lurker", there was some validity to your comment, except for this line: "The question you should be asking yourselves is how many kids did BYU miss out on to PAC 12 schools because of the HC and environment?" BYU, Stanford, Notre Dame, and any other school that has restrictions of some sort on the kind of players they can recruit know going in that they are at a disadvantage from the start to the Oregon's of the world. BYU of course is the most disadvantaged of the aforementioned three because of the Honor Code (don't know specifically what Notre Dame has, but, if nothing else, there are many million more Catholics from which to recruit). So for BYU to win a non-LDS recruit on the West Coast against decent competition is indeed something to be happy about. I do note that, despite being from Oregon, the Ducks were not listed as being interested. But, according to Rivals, neither were they in Kyle Van Noy.

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    Dec. 7, 2012 2:57 p.m.

    stars smars

    The only thing I care about is heart and the determination to succeed.

    I'd much rather have team full of 2- and 3-star recruits who are committed to working their tails off to be successful, than a bunch of 4- and 5-stars who think they're going to be successful just by showing up at the stadium on game day.

    Johnny Ragin seems to be just the type of player every BYU fan should be thrilled about joining the Cougars.

    Welcome aboard!

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Dec. 7, 2012 3:33 p.m.

    Honor Code 1
    Pac10.2 0

    Wake me up when Utes out recruit USC or better yet... when they play post season again.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Dec. 7, 2012 4:06 p.m.

    @howie

    Uh....utah does not have a single recruit ranked "higher" than a 3 star. None. BYU on the otherhand does. Nice lie.

  • Wendall Hoop Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 7, 2012 4:32 p.m.

    This is amazing! He is #1 linebacker, 4 stars and best vertical leap and wing span. We are amazing in recruiting and this should almost guarantee a BCS game next year. He is a game changer. I have seen him play in high school and he will start as a freshman. watch out!

  • TheSportsAuthority Arlington, VA
    Dec. 7, 2012 5:18 p.m.

    Wendall Hoop

    Nice try troll!

    -------

    Johnny Ragin does look like he has the talent and work ethic to be as good or maybe even better than KVN someday, but only if he maintains the same work ethic and intensity as KVN throughout his career at BYU.

  • camera2head west jordan, utah
    Dec. 7, 2012 7:38 p.m.

    @sammyg

    Again with the typical byu fan response,since byu cant beat Utah on the field you will live thru some other team like Usc.

    Ok i'll play along, wake me up when you out recruit NOTRE DAME,or at least sniff a BCS bowl.We wont even mention the words byu and national title.Yeah i know you have one, The IRISH have 10 and soon to have 11.

  • CalJac LOS GATOS, CA
    Dec. 7, 2012 7:51 p.m.

    It's obvious that this smart kid saw how the exposure BYU gets from their ESPN deal can turn an unknown like Ziggy and Van Noy into top NFL draft picks. That's exposure not even the Pac-12 can match! I guess that's why Ute fans are still Just Wondering :)

    Welcome Johnny Ragin! You're going to be very happy with this decision from all points!

  • OCoug Ogden, UT
    Dec. 7, 2012 9:45 p.m.

    Sounds like a great recruit to add to an already impressive recruiting class. I'm excited to see how all of the recruits pan out. You just never know for sure until they play at the next level.

    As for all of the back and forth banter, neither BYU or Utah has much to brag about this year. Hopefully, next year both schools can raise their level to that of their competition. Yes, BYU has a National Championship, and Utah has a couple of BCS wins. Fact is, it's in the past. Both teams doing well helps both schools.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Dec. 8, 2012 5:10 a.m.

    camera2head

    My comment is simply pointing out the continued absurdity of Ute fans that have to comment on every BYU recruiting story and the moronic aftermath of the discussion about star ratings. Example... Howard S.

    Many of your fanbase continue to pound their chests about out recruiting BYU when the discussion has supposedly gone beyond BYU because the Utes are in a 'big boy' conference. It hasn't.

    Since USC always gets 4 and 5 star recruits and the Utes get 0-3 star recruits its a futile attempt to think that the Utes will ever do anything in the PAC12 in this situation.

    While we both know that the ability of a player is not restricted by a star rating, better people than you and I determine these things and the odds they are correct are in their favor.

    Do you honestly think I care about comparing BYU to Notre Dame? I don't. A futile attempt on your part to make a dig at BYU while I'm just stating the obvious and bitter fans such as yourself live in this bubble of Ute delusion and their conference affiliation.

    Let's talk about dips for the Ute couch potato chip bowl.

  • Proud Ute ,
    Dec. 8, 2012 8:26 a.m.

    Don't care who you play for or how many stars.
    Congratulations on your opportunity to get a good education and play college football.

  • 2BCSWINS West of I15, UT
    Dec. 8, 2012 12:35 p.m.

    @caljac...You're right the kid is probably looking at all the success Bronco has had putting players in the NFL. Oh wait that can't be it Bronco has yet to put even one recruit in the NFL. Great track record 8 years yet to put one player in the NFL. The kid has better odd's going to SUU and getting to the NFL then he does with Bronco.

    Hang in there though Bronco should get a couple over the next couple years. That could up his % to 1-2% of players he recruits get to the next level...LOL

  • schmed Frisco, tx
    Dec. 10, 2012 9:32 p.m.

    What a terrific player, what horrible, dark and evil music.