Conservatives want to build even more prisons and put more people behind bars.
Just lock em up and throw away the key has always been the conservative mantra.
Never mind the cost to society. Rehabilitation, forget it. Waste of time.
Doesn't work. It does work with voters.
I wouldn't presume to speak for conservatives or liberals, but if there are
ways to help prisoners learn responsibility and good citizenship so that they
change their lives and contribute positively to society, I'm all in favor
@NeilT Liberals on the other hand prefer that instead of punishing
crime we just make everything legal. Pot anyone? Never mind the cost to
society.One thing I don't like about the article is the
comparison of the US prison system to the likes of other countries' prison
systems. In the United States, even criminals get their due process and at least
in New Jersey have more spent on them ($44,000) than Ivy League students at
Princeton do. Prisoners in Cuba, South Africa, and Russia do not have this. It
is a ridiculous comparison. Also, I've lived abroad a great
deal of time. Years in Brazil, the Middle East, and Europe. In some of the place
I have lived the norm is for murderers to walk as opposed to be locked
up...THANK HEAVEN that is not the case in the USA.
Great story. It is the only bread we will buy. Smith's and other stores
better wake up because Costco is the only one who sells Dave's Killer
Bread.NeilT and there goes another liberal throwing false labels
around. I am a conservative and most of the conservatives I know, and they are
in the 10's of thousands, want the criminals sent to prison, but we want
them rehabilitated so they do no return. We also want ways to keep them from
going there in the first place. NeilT should I make a false
presumption and say you don't want them to suffer the consequences of their
actions, just slap their hands and say, "now don't do that again."
then send them on their way. Am I drawing the correct assumption from your
desire to denigrate conservatives?
I am a devout Mormon; just thought I would make that clear from the start. Now
my opinion on the surge in prison populations. This all started with the
misguided "War on drugs" which caused lawmakers to go into a frenzy and
make a huge deal out of marijuana. You want to see a reduction in prison
populations? Legalize marijuana now! If we even go by the worse case scenario
marijuana causes very little harm to the huser while arresting him/her destroys
their life and might cause them to have to spend time in jail. I would also like
to see the government stop awarding private businesses contracts to run prisons
for profit as this encourages a sort of indentured servitute and actually
encourages a system of putting non-violent and more compliant offenders in jail
(easier to get work from them) and let child molesters and violent criminals go
Wynnco sells this and its awesome (and healthy) bread.
Vengeange is Mine - sayeth "Christians"? - "Never mind the cost to
society"? of legal pot? what about the extreme cost to soceity of
imprisoning a larger percentage of the population than ANY other country? do you
think that the extremely expensive "punishment" helps? Look at
recivivism! - it seems it would be FAR mor efficient economically, as well as
effective, to focus more on education and retraining than on punishment. -
certainly there are those who the public needs to be protected from, but
imprisoning someone who uses a plant? Nature gave us plants. Destroy someone who
makes an error's possibility to be an asset to society, at great expense to
society, who then have to support them. Change the focus, people! This IS NOT
The proof is in the pudding. Favorable results have happened from programs such
as the HOPE in Hawaii. As a conservative, I am totally in favor of spending the
money to help people change (when they are ready to do so). In the long run it
is a pratical and humane solution. I am glad this article appeared in the DN and
I hope we can see it become a widespread movement.
It appears that most of you commentors know little if anything about the penal
system or those who reside there. Most states have programs for training with
the intent to prepare prisoners for life on the outside. However, most states
allow prisoners to choose whether or not to participate. Most are not inclined
to do so. Unfortunately the same attitudes that exist in gangs also exist in
prisons. If you decide to change you are ridiculed by your peers. Many of
those who particpate in such programs do so only to get their sentences reduced
for what is called "good behavior".If you think this is a
conservative v. liberal problem are equally uninformed. I think that we all
hope anyone who spends time incarcerated will choose to see the error of their
ways and choose to change. That is the point of punishment and accountability.
Very few people contribute to society from behind bars.
Good bread, better story and outcome for this guy!
First they want to legalize marijuana. Now they are implying that meth is no
big deal.I suppose if someone were coming at you the wrong way on I-15 you
might wish he were in jail.But if he's selling you a loaf of bread,
that's different.I feel really warm and fuzzy after reading this
article. Now what? Release all the prisoners serving drug-related sentences?
Thank you, Deseret News, for searching out great stories of hope like this!