Finally, we see the end of this campaign. I was so sick of hearing all the
negative ads from both sides, paid for by private PACS, that I could spit. I
couldn't watch a TV news show, or anything on TV for weeks without having
that battle brewing and I don't live in that district.Finally,
we see the end of this campaign.Finally, we see the end of this
campaign.Finally, we see the end of this campaign.Finally, we see
the end of this campaign.
Mt Matheson has shown he can win in gerrymandered districts. I would love to see
him take on Mike Lee for senate. Mr. Lee has not been good for Utah. Mike Lee
has a ton of baggage, it would be a fun race.
It has been reported in other media that GOP gerrymandering may have been at
least partly responsible for Ms. Love's loss.That is simply a
The outcome of this particular race demonstrates how messed up the
"representation" really is. As an independent, I see the boundaries for
the four districts in Utah as a farce to somehow pull the rug out from
underneath Matheson. In all actuality, the tragedy of this race is that the
people throughout the district outside of Salt Lake County are not duly
represented. The district should've been primarily Salt Lake County with
the other districts representing other areas of Utah. That way Salt Lake is
represented by the Blue Dog Democrat and the remainder by Republicans which
would reflect the political landscape. As with many things political, the
constituents are the ones getting gerrymandered.
Congressional redistricting in this state was done with one aim in mind: To make
sure that there was no district that Matheson could win. For that alone,
I'm glad he pulled it off.
The election this year, including the UT-4 seat shows the ability of a well
organized campaign to motivate and turn out their supporters, including, sadly,
many "low information" voters who really don't know diddley-squat
about issues or candidates, but believed the scare stories about how the
Republicans would stop giving them "free stuff" if they did not show up
to vote for Democrats.It may be legal to have poorly informed people
voting in large numbers, but it is probably the end of our nation as the home of
freedom and prosperity.Matheson was the beneficiary of this shift in
voting numbers, but we, and our kids and country are the losers.
If you want to see gerrymandering at its worst, look at California.
This is now the 7th straight election that Matheson has won against overwhelming
odds and opposition. Do you think voters in Utah know something that GOP
leaders don't? Maybe it's because he has proven himself to be a true
representative "of the people, for the people, and by the people." If
that wasn't the case, he wouldn't have gotten by the second, third,
fourth, fifth, sixth and now seventh election. In fact, he and Senator Orrin
Hatch have won the same amount of elections.
DN Subscriber,The only thing that made this election close was the
"low information" voters who either voted against Matheson because he
had a "D" next to his name, or voted for Love because she had a
"R" next to her name. Listening to the two candidates debate, it was
clear had a grasp of the issues and who had no clue. Thank heavens there are
more informed voters in the 4th district than "low information" voters.
Re: DN Subscriber,You mean those "low information" voters
who do nothing more than check the "R" on the straight party option?
Yeah, they disappoint me too.
DN Subscriber: We who live in the 4th District are glad we have a Representative
who will represent us. And we had informed voters who considered the
candidate qualifications and did not automatically vote for the "R"
My remarks do not represent a political opinion. I have called the Matheson
office in D.C. about which way he was going to vote on various bills. It was
always, "He has not made up his mind!' That was true when Obamacare was
ready for a vote. Matheson's office said up to the day of the vote was,
"The Congressman has not made up his mind yet!" He did end up not voting
for Obamacare when he got the green light from the Dems that his vote really
didn't matter.I simply do not trust the man. I wanted new
blood, someone who would communicate with his constiuents and not continually
put them off. Matheson is at Obama's beckon call. I wanted someone who
reflected Utah's values. In my opinion Jim Matheson does not.Also, I think Mike Lee is doing a superior job in D.C.
It seems the candidate most closely aligned with the 4th Congressional District
won. This doesn't mean that the Democratic Party necessarily won this seat
outright as Rep. Matheson appears to be more of an independent aligned with the
Democratic Party. Rep. Matheson is no liberal or national Democrat. Perhaps
one might be able to describe Matheson as a Utah Democrat which label in and of
itself would be a unique political hybrid of conservative, Mormon, independent,
not beholden to the national Democratic Party nor President Obama and perhaps
that's just the way most Utahns want it, though not necessarily what
Democrats want, but neither as Republicans want it either.
It makes me sad because I wanted Mia to win. It would have been great to finally
see a woman from Utah back there in Congress. It would have been even better to
see a African American woman represent us here in Utah. I also feel that we need
to have term limits and hopefully one day that will happen.
Elections matter, and if people don't think that their votes count, look at
several of the close races this past election. Here in Florida, Allen West just
lost his seat after a very suspicious "recount process". The
Love/Matheson race is still "undecided". In a country that is clearly
divided, the importance of casting your vote, and then insuring the integrity of
the counting process are essential. When the integrity and reliability of the
counting process are suspect, the very foundation of our freedoms and society
are at stake. All votes should be tallied, and for any election official to
offer any excuse is unacceptable. Those who vote need to have faith in the
integrity of those who tally and record the results of all races, to accept
less, is to accept the loss of our freedom......
Now just why would a Democratic PAC encourage voters to vote for the independent
candidate? Could it be because they knew only disenchanted Republicans would? In
which case, who wins? I have no use for politicians, no matter there party.
it's not how a person votes that is important, it's who counts the
votes...As a side note: BYU grammar - beckon call. All other
universities grammar - beck and call.
Mia Love - Republican Right. Jim Matheson - Republican light. He may have won,
and he may have been the better choice, but real dems had to hold their nose
when they voted.
I am glad to be Jim Matheson won and he is in my District!
So when will the Mia Love crowd start complaining about voter fraud and
"gifts" given by Jim Matheson?
CHS 85: Driving you nuts that it hasn't happened yet, isn't it?
Mia Love didn't/doesn't have enough experience to represent Utah at
the federal level. A one-term small town controversial mayor? Yeah, I wanted her
to represent me. Being black and female should not be the strongest criteria for
election.The republicans need to quit sucking sour grapes and let it
go. Matheson won. Let Mia try again after she has more experience under her
Matheson fooled the voters once again with his parliamentary games and his nasty
ads. But it wwas close.
All R vs D aside maybe just maybe it is a good thing that Utah has
representation on both sides of the poltical divide, in both Congressional
caucusus. There have been so many comments about the right and wrong of the
election since Nov. 6 maybe we should take a step back and think about the
benefit to Utah of having someone to represent the state in both parties in DC.
Matheson may be only a single voice in the Democratic caucus but one voice is
better than none. Don't get the wrong idea. I am regularly a Republican
delegate and active in the party but I can also take the long view and look at
the consequenses for Utah. A straight ticket is a great victory for the party
but is it the best thing for the state? Maybe, maybe not
Too many Americans believe that being a small town mayor a few years is not
adequate qualification to represent them in Washington DC - whether it is
Wasila, Alaska or Saratoga Springs, Utah.I will vote for Mia Love in
4 years if she runs against Senator Mike Lee or in 6 years if she runs for
Senator against Orrin Hatch.
Congratulations to Jim Matheson for beating the 1st (would-be) Conservative
Black Woman in Congress! Is it Party Time Jim?
With Mia is always seemed she would be not a Utah representative, but a
republican representative. I viewed her with her head to the phone; sitting in
front of the voting computer; taking her orders from the republican
leadership.I would expect that as a democrat; Matheson will usually vote
with his party; but he has shown that he will also vote against his party; if it
is not what is best in his view for Utah, or the United States.
@TX_Soldier254So Representative Matheson should have just conceded
the election simply because his opponent was a "Conservative Black
Congratulations to the Republican voters in the fourth district. You have voted
for Nancy Pelosi and her agenda. You have voted for Barack Obama and his
redistribution socialistic agenda. You have voted for a pro-choice candidate.
You have voted for big government and the diminishing of the free enterprise
system. You have essentially voted for every thing you claim you are against in
government and you sit there and smile that you have a representative that
represents you but in reality represents the Democrat party. You voted for Mitt
Romney and got Barack Obama and a representative that will support Obama. You
did well, fourth district Republicans, and you got what you deserved.
@Grammy3 - Yes, we do need to have term limits. Then maybe we could finally get
rid of Hatch.@fangflyer - I'm not sure you read through the
article as Matheson has officially been declared the winner in the 4th District.
Not sure how you came to the conclusion that 'The Love/Matheson race is
still "undecided".' because it's over. Matheson won, Mia
@coleman51Let me play devil's advoate for a second. What
exactly in four years has your Representative done? He's now starting his
third term and I'm scratching my head to remember any actual
accomplishments other than to preen on CNN and Fox News talking about how bad
President Obama is. What has done to earn the votes of the 3rd District? Oh, I
know, he simply has a (R) behind his name, and that is all the accomplishment he
@coleman51Your words show that you watch too much Fox News and
listen to too much Hannity, Limbaugh, or Beck. It is not the "Democrat
Party". It is the "Democratic Party". Have the respect to refer to
the party by its real name. Or should we start referring to that other party as
the "Repug" party?
Grammy3SOUTH JORDAN, UTIt makes me sad because I wanted Mia to win.
It would have been great to finally see a woman from Utah back there in
Congress..... I also feel that we need to have term limits and hopefully one day
that will happen.12:27 a.m. Nov. 21, 2012===================Reva Beck Bosone was Utah's first
congresswoman. In 1932 Reva won the election as a Democrat. Term limits you say?You want Term Limits?Please Tell us you
didn't vote for Orrin Hatch!