It appears being compelled to be humble is working for Heaps. Too bad he needed
to be compelled.
What? Sitting a year out using your redshirt is actually helping him?
Maturing? Working on his mental game? Crazy ideas I tell you.I
honestly hope he lives up to his potential. I was sad to see him transfer, but
it was pretty apparent that the coaching staff at BYU wasn't helping his
What is the idea behind requiring student athletes to sit out a year when they
transfer between FBS schools? Is it to prevent 'good' players from
transferring to 'better' teams? In the case of Jake Heaps it was a
mutual decision for him to leave the program. It would be nice for student
athletes in his situation to have a process where they can request to have this
waived when both the original school and the athlete are in agreement of the
departure. I know they already do this in situations where a school is placed on
I think humility was a problem for Heaps. However, I think he would have done
better at BYU with an experienced offensive coordinator. Coach Doman should not
have started him as a true freshman to begin with. He did not have the maturity
level yet to succeed. I'm surprised Ross Apo didn't pack his bags as
well. Apo could have been NFL quality as well with another coaching staff and
more opportunities to catch the ball. I think its obvious with Riley
Nelson's horrific senior year (since he can't throw the ball), Taysom
Hill's unnecessary injury, and Tom Holmoe's comment about a shake up
on the offensive staff at the end of the season, there were obstacles outside of
Heap's control. He was a missed opportunity. My guess is that Coach Doman
will be fired when the season is over.
How Heaps performs next year will be as telling for Brandon Doman as for Jake
Heaps. The question is can Doman coach (and improve) a pocket passer. And
what does that say about future recruits if Doman is long-term.
We know Heaps can throw the ball...but can he stand in and take the required
hits? I still have an image of him cringing as he was expecting to get hit,
against the Utes, I think. The impression I got was not a fear of pain, but the
possibility of an injury that would derail his fated NFL career. Sure, I expect
the kicker to cringe a bit...but a 5 star recruit? Maybe married life has
quickening his manning up.
I hope he does improve. For those who think BYU threw him away, he
had many, many opportunities to prove himself. I watched him in person against
Texas over-throw wide open receivers several times. And his slow snap count
resulted in more 5-yard false start penalties than any 5 year time period in the
history of BYU football. He had a great game against UTEP in the New Mexico
Bowl, but that seems to be where his abilities ended, unfortunately. I
won't rehash his performance in Provo against Utah, although given a
special team that actually blocked so as to hit a field goal, Jake did enough to
bring a victory against Utah in SLC. It just didn't happen.So
the best to you, Jake, in the future. Learn from your past and you'll be
better for it.
If Kansas can block for him next year, he'll have a great season. With a
1-9 record the bar is set pretty low. It won't be hard to exceed the
performance of this year at the QB position. I will be looking to see how well
he does.In retrospect, his first year should have been a developmental
year and I think he would have done a lot better last year. But as I have said
before, you can't teach heart and toughness.
I wish the best of luck to Jake. He certainly struggled while at BYU and I was
on the 'Bench Heaps' bandwagon but I admire how he handled the
situation at BYU and hope that he finds success in Kansas. Can't wait to
watch both Jake and Josh Quezada next year. Should be interesting.
In all sincerity, I wish Heaps success at Kansas. I think both he and the
coaching staff deserve some of the blame for how things turned out at BYU. I am
glad redshirting for a year seems like it is having a positive effect on him. I
still wish things had worked out at BYU though. Oh well. We have Taysom Hill
now, who I think will be better next year anyway if he can improve his passing
wow, a quote from Heaps that was all about him and how he thinks he's
getting better...didn't see that one coming.
Bronco and Brandon blew it ,
Jake Heaps will NEVER be the type of 5 star QB he was projected to be. He just
doesn't have what it takes on a consistent basis and he will never be an
NFL QB. I hope he's learning how to be a QB coach or offensive coordinator
for a high school team in the future.
I'm glad the KU experience is treating him better than being the golden son
of Provo, and I wish him more success in his future, but I think those of you
wanting to watch him play in some games next year may be disappointed. Yes,
KU's record is awful (to say the least), but since replacing Crist (an even
more heralded HS recruit than Heaps), Cummings has playing pretty efficiently,
nearly beating Oklahoma State, Texas and Texas Tech, plus he is much quicker and
more mobile than Heaps, which is a must for teams with bad offensive lines. My
guess is at some point of the season, Heaps will get his shot, but as has been
shown this year, nothing is promised.toosmart, I find it hard to
blame false starts on the QB, regardless of what tempo you think their snap
count should be, when the OL spend 20 hours a week practicing with him, they
should be used to it by then. Plus, I'm pretty sure they had more false
starts in the game at Utah this year than all of last season combined, and Heaps
had nothing to do with that.
After Jake transferred, I asked a friend of mine, who currently plays BYU
football,if he was upset that he left the program. He said, "Good
riddance". He mentioned he was arrogant, didn't work, and felt
entitled. Granted, that's only one data point. For my part, I wish him only
the best at Kansas.
Heaps lacked the mind set to compete in college football in 2010 and 2011. I was
lukewarm on him the first time I saw him play, and I never became a fan. I have
replayed some Heaps games over the last few months, and I become less impressed
with more review. The coaches do assume blame for his failure, their error was
having him on the field at all. He needed a red shirt year to learn the game. He
was immobile, lacked the ability read defenses, was incapable of responding to a
breakdown and was terrified of injury. His last play in 2011 should have been
his open field slide with 6:10 remaining in the 3rd quarter of the Texas
game.I wish him the best in his future endeavors. I think a red
shirt year will provide him a much needed opportunity to learn.
Go Jake! Hope you can prove to everyone what many already know about BYU's
I'll never forget the image. I don't remember the game, BYU won a
close one near the end. As it was over and players were running about the field
Jake Heaps went up to Riley Nelson and rubber the top of his head, messing up
his hair much as a grandpa would mess up a little 5-year old grandsons hair. An
18-year old doing this to a 23-year was just odd. Spoke of his maturity.Maturity is a big issue. I hope he has grown. As for Coach Doman. He was
a run first, throw second attitude quarterback. He coaches this way. Reminds me
of Gary Crowton, always running these designed quarterback runs and getting them
clipped at a pretty consistent rate.Throw first, scramble as you
needed. If you want a ball run intentionally, give it to the running back. That
is what they are built for.
BYUfaninWashStEverett, WA"Go Jake! Hope you can prove to
everyone what many already know about BYU's coaching staff."Yes, like how the coaches caused him to under-throw, over-throw and
flame-throw balls that weren't caught. Or how the coaches told him
"don't you dare try to tackle that defender with your interception.
You are MUCH too valuable to us as a future NFL qb to risk anything like
"I'm surprised Ross Apo didn't pack his bags as well. Apo could
have been NFL quality as well with another coaching staff and more opportunities
to catch the ball."Did you watch the game on Saturday? Apo had
some opportunities to catch more balls in that one game alone, but dropped pass
that hit him right in the hands. Now, I'm willing to give him the benefit
of the doubt and think maybe he wasn't handling the cold all that well; but
NFL quality receivers need to be able to catch balls in those circumstances.Heaps chose to do exactly what the BYU coaching staff wanted him to do
this year: redshirt. He just chose to do it an another university. I, too,
wish him the best; but like many, I'm skeptical he'll do more than
have a couple of good years to end his football career. The NFL is not in his
future; but then again, he could surprise us.
So tell me why Jake Heaps felt like he needed to leave? To me it's
interesting that Jake feels he can use this time to improve his game and learn
some things. He can do that at KSU but not at BYU? Had he stayed, matured, and
learned at BYU he would have likely got a lot of playing time this year as soon
has Nelson went down. And if he was improving and maturing as he suggests, he
would have had a terrific opportunity excel. After a couple of games Nelson
will graduate and we'll pin our hopes on sophomore T. Hill instead of a
more experienced upperclassman. I think Jake Heaps blew it by leaving. He
revealed that his ego just couldn't the fact that he had much room to
Y Grad / Y DadRichland, WAJake may or may not light things up
in Kansas. However, he'll at least play worthy competition each week ...
and he can hope to receive support with competent play calling and encouragement
from team-mates his own age. Hard to be 17 or 18 and lead a team of 30 yr old
Heaps on his worst day is better than "ole gritty" Riley Nelson on his
best day. Heaps was entitled? I'd say that honor belongs to the current
qb who single-handedly lost the BSU game.
BYUfaninWashStEverett, WACouple of points:1) every
team that beats you is worthy competition. 2) hard to tell if the play
calling was competent when the passes keep hitting the grass. 3) hard to
lead the 30 year old wannabe's when they're in the weight room and
your on the golf course. I wanted Jake to be successful as much as
the next loyal cougar fan. I over-looked the sports bar press conference, I
withheld judgement when he decided to forgo his mission, I worried when he
became the starter as a freshman, but I thought he was on a good trajectory
after the bowl game. Between then and the next season, he suffered a
crisis in confidence, or maybe the whole team suffered a confidence crisis in
him. Whatever the case, he made Riley look real good at the time. Whatever.
Maybe he would have done better with a different OC, with a
dedicated QB coach. But he WAS doing pretty well as a freshman and stunk it up
as a sophomore. And the coaches didn't change. Just
Problem for Jake was he got married way too soon. When his bride couldn't
take the heat in the stands she needed to transfer. Jake had to go along to get
The coaches did change. Robert Anae was let go and Brandon Doman was promoted to
OC. While Heaps isn't blameless in how things played out, I believe
it's becoming more and more apparent that the biggest problem was coaching.
Red zone play calling was horrible (still is). No pass protection or run game to
speak of. A coaching staff so taken with Nelson that they forgave him of any
mistake, even when it cost games (see TCU for reference). A September schedule
tougher than any in BYU history, and then Nelson plays against teams with a
combined win percentage of 35%. Anyway, we'll see how Heaps does next
season. Should be telling.
You people who think you've got Heaps all figured out really nauseate me. I
hope your kids never have to go through the spotlight this young man has and
have thousands of people making the same judgements of your son or daughter with
limited information.I wish Jake well and hope he succeeds. Shame on
those of you who judge. Most hypocritical for LDS.
"Jake is very, very frustrated," Kansas coach Charlie Weis told
KUSports.com. "He's frustrated that he can't help."He can't help if he's in the game, or on the sidelines, so I guess
Jake will continue to be frustrated, as KU is a very bad team. Specifically, the
o-line. If people think Jake cringed last year while trying to pass with
byu's offensive line, wait until they see him try to drop back in Lawrence.
Eastcoast,Wait a minute, I thought hypocrisy was a prerequisite for
admission into the cougar club. You're saying it isn't?
to all the naysayers...Heaps is amazing. Time will show he was BYU's future
that was mishandled and misappropriated. He may have had humility issues as
Bronco implies (entitlement feelings) however BYU had and still has no offensive
line protection and no truly seasoned OC to bring the lad along. Bronco appears
to choose the starting QB rather than the QB coach and OC. Heaps will succeed in
Kansas under seasoned veteran coaches. That does not mean they will win the Big
12 any time soon though. I believe Heaps would have won back the starting job
this year had he stayed. Bronco has said he would rather play a less talented
player who tries harder than a talented player who does not. So the question is
what does "trying harder" mean to Bronco. if the players know what that
quality is then fine otherwise the mind games need to stop. the interesting
thing is that once again under Bronco's watch defensive players are the
problem. Bronco was the DC under Crowton and the defensive players cost Crowton
his job. I would like to see Bronco move to DC only and hire a new head coach
who is OC.
Lighten up, Eastcoast, criticism goes with the territory of being a QB at BYU
(or any school for that matter). You think Heaps is the only one to be subject
to criticism? Nelson this year has been castigated more than Heaps ever was
(much of it deserved). And it seems to me you have posted a lot of critical
comments yourself.All of us fans want to see BYU Football get
better. And we all (you included) think we have some ideas on how that should
happen. Right or wrong, that is all part of being a fan. The fans do
have some influence on the program. Unhappy fans mean less revenue. And these
comment boards are one way fans can express pleasure or displeasure in the
program. But you are probably right that we could all benefit from being less
eastcoastcougYou need to study a little harder in Sunday School. The
scriptures talk about not judging "unrighteously", the scriptures
don't admonish not to judge at all, and frankly, I don't see how
"righteous" or "unrighteous" judgement is even applicable to
football, unless throwing an incomplete pass is considered a sin.
I'm not rooting against Heaps, but to those who blame the Y coaches for his
failure, did you ever watch the guy play? For every nice throw, he missed two
others. For every decisive, strong throw, he waited a half-second too long or
lobbed a half-hearted duck. For ever time he had a nice run to salvage some
yards, he . . wait, that never happened. Look, I get that not everyone could or
should try to be Steve Young or Michael Vick out there, but Heaps always looked
like he'd rather run out of the back of his own end zone than try to pick
up a few yards on a scramble. And the few times I did see him actually
"run" with the ball, I thought maybe my DVR had slown down the game. To
call him "plodding" is too kind. "Contact averse" and
"plodding" are not going to cut it in D1 football, let alone the NFL.
Heaps in the NFL . . that's hilarious.
Folks, do you recall the New Mexico bowl? Do you remember who was the Player
of the Game? Who was the offensive coordinator for that game? Flash forward
a few months. New Offensive Coordinator. The first play of the season told
the story and the snap sailed over Jake's head. High snaps seemed to
plague him the second season and naturally it was all his fault. When Riley
came in, surprise, no more high snaps. I feel sorry for Jake and I feel sorry
for BYU. We could have been a top 5 team with Jake and a real Offensive
Kansas, QB U. Yep
All this finger pointing and hypocrisy talk is cracking me up. Please keep it
When Heaps tears it up and ends up in the NFL, I can't wait to hear all the
Y fans who wanted him gone. Oh how is having Riley working out for us? Good
I think the situation is clearer than when Jake left? Just how difficult his
situation really was at BYU. There is perhaps such a fondness for Riley Nelson
that Brono and Doman are blinded as to his abilities, expecting more efficacy
that he is able to give. Many point to the disasterous game with Utah which got
the Cougars buried in their own self distructive mistakes, yet the worst
performance by any BYU QB in history was the Pick 6, 4 INT, 2 fumbles lost, 5
for 12 completions at Boise State. Nelson remained the starter after giving
away three games this season throwing 10 INTs vs the opposing QB's having
had NONE, it's hard to win under those circumstances. Jake placed himself
in a situation that promises to be a difficult at Kansas. The Kansas QB averages
12 passes a game with 6 completions and 50 passing yards a game. That's the
Charlie Weiss offense and he has found a freshman QB to lead the run offense.
Will it be Crawford the running QB from Texas or the passing QB from Washigton
via BYU? Weiss is known for driving QB's crazy, maybe Jakes wishes he
bballjukie says: "When Heaps tears it up and ends up in the NFL, I
can't wait to hear all the Y fans who wanted him gone. Oh how is having
Riley working out for us? Good call!"You really see that
happening, do you? OK, then. If you're right, I'd be a little
irritated he couldn't have played at an NFL prospect level for the Y, but I
honestly hope it happens for him. I'd follow him and root for him. I also hope Riley Stephenson wins the Heisman, that I get a 50% raise
after January performance evaluations, and that Eva Longoria shows up on my
doorstep tonight with a hot pizza wearing naught but a Jimmer jersey and a
smile.About Riley, is a mediocre Riley any worse than a mediocre
Heaps? I say no. They each have completely unique downsides. Give me Hill and
let him grow into the role, but then that didn't work out so well. I'm
already on to next year.
@Wayne RoutWayne, you proved to be mostly right about Nelson--he is just
not very good. He is tough and gritty and can scramble pretty well and
rates high on character, but as a passer and a decision maker, he just
doesn't cut it.However, I will NOT concede that Heaps was the
Messiah as you proclaim. I will admit the coaches probably failed him a bit and
he probably looked good in practice, but in a live game with real contact, he
played scared, rushed his passes and misread defenses against the better teams.
In game situations he really wasn't any more accurate than what Nelson has
been. That bears out in his stats.Now maybe with some maturity
he'll be much better. I hope he does. I just didn't see it at BYU
except for a couple of good games against some weak teams. I was on the Heaps
bandwagon big time when he first came. I wanted him to start from the get-go.
But over time I realized my enthusiasm for him was misplaced.
Hmmm. . . Eva Longoria. . . wait, what was the topic?
Says a lot about BYU's current year when the DN runs a feature on a
transferred player. He left, move on, look forward.
Jake Heaps: we should have worked harder to keep him. Riley Nelson has grit,
which I admire, but he tries too hard, forces the ball too often. Heaps had his
confidence rattled but I bet he could have worked through that. Tough to do if
you're being told "You'll start. No you won't. You'll
start. No you won't."We should have stuck with Heaps.
He'd be a junior now, then after his senior year the QB that transferred
from Stanford (?) that stupidly got hurt at the very end of the game about a
month ago would be a junior and ready to lead the guns.Go
Many of us were big Heaps fans and many of us understood that Heaps getting
married over the summer would take him away from practice and affect his playing
and necessitate some adjustments. But many of us can't understand why he
bailed out so quickly. The talent and the coaching were already there and we
would have endured substantially enough until Heaps got his mindset back. The
only choice he gave us was to say good bye and wish him luck. He built his own
nest and I'm sure he's definitely having 2nd thoughts. If there is
such a thing as a Football Savior then Charley Weiss definitely has to be very
fervently praying that he has found him in Heaps. The last time we saw a
possible college football Mmessiah it was Jake Locker that Steve Sarkeisian
inherited. Unfortunately Locker was the only positive on that team. I'm
afraid that Heaps is in for a similar very bumpy road at Kansas for the rest of
his career. as well.
Good luck Jake. Wish you were still at BYU.