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Mia Love says election loss surprised her, but she's mum on future

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  • Al_Tenuta SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Nov. 12, 2012 12:28 p.m.

    Those votes belong to Jim Vein, and nobody else. Jim Vein was running for office, not stealing votes.

  • firstamendment Lehi, UT
    Nov. 12, 2012 12:29 p.m.

    I hope she runs again. I was surprised also. I almost wonder if the trib polls made it so people didn't go vote, thinking she won. I'm embarrassed that so many people in Utah fell for the dishonestly edited liberal attack ads. Even those who believed them should have the logic to realize that Mia would only help support our Conservative values, and Matheson only gives more power to divisive, dishonest, and destructive Liberalism and their President. I hope and pray Obama will be able to change his ways, but if he doesn't I fear that those voting for him and his agenda will be responsible for some very sad things.

  • Mike in Sandy Sandy, UT
    Nov. 12, 2012 12:53 p.m.

    "Surprised"?
    Wonder why? She is an inexperienced rookie going up against an eve-handed grizzled veteran.
    What surprised her?
    She is not very realistic....

  • Third try screen name Mapleton, UT
    Nov. 12, 2012 12:58 p.m.

    Mia needs to work on her memory.

  • non believer PARK CITY, UT
    Nov. 12, 2012 12:58 p.m.

    To firstamendment

    Maybe is was her conservative values that not all of Utah is interested in? Living your life as a conservative is all fine and dandy. But placing these beliefs on everyone else is just plain wrong. Liberals give people a choice on how they want to live. Conservatives take that choice away.
    The younger generation seems to want these choices available and made their voices heard last week.
    How does this in anyway take away your right to live conservativly?

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 12, 2012 12:59 p.m.

    @firstamendment
    "I almost wonder if the trib polls made it so people didn't go vote, thinking she won."

    I doubt it. Plus that would directly conflict with the GOP conspiracy that polls were made to make Obama look better than he was.

    "Mia would only help support our Conservative values"

    Liberals don't want your "conservative values".

    "Matheson only gives more power to divisive, dishonest, and destructive Liberalism and their President"

    The Tea Party caucus and republicans set records for filibusters. That's hardly inclusive or constructive.

  • Robb C Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 12, 2012 1:09 p.m.

    Please run again, Mia! My wife and I met you at a cottage meeting and were very impressed. We think you'd be terrific representative for Utah!

    Next time, try to do a better job of clearly disassociating yourself from the Tea Party. I don't think you really believe in their extreme approaches--especially their unwillingness to compromise--and nor do most Utahns. And those dumb advertisements run by national groups didn't help you at all. In fact, I think they may have actually hurt you.

    See what you can do about running a more positive campaign. Ben McAdams showed everybody that it can be done successfully in Utah. Another point to stress is that Jim Matheson is a good guy and all but he's fast becoming the House version of Orrin Hatch. Time for him to move on to something else and give someone else a chance!

  • WHAT NOW? Saint George, UT
    Nov. 12, 2012 1:10 p.m.

    Surprised?

    There's always 2014.

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    Nov. 12, 2012 1:11 p.m.

    Love wasn't the right choice for the job so she lost. If she hopes to compete in the future for a similar job then she's got to bulk up her resume and show that she's right for it. Resting on her record as mayor of a small, in debt town just won't cut it on a national stage.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Nov. 12, 2012 1:27 p.m.

    She became a figure head, a token candidate to prove the diversity of the party, for the republicans, rather than the people in her district. While Utah votes heavily Republican, the trend even in Utah is toward unaligned voters. The republicans seem to continual forget that there are more than just Republicans and Democrats who will vote party line.

    If she runs again, and there is no reason she shouldn't, she will need to run as a representative of her district, and worry less about what people outside of the state think about her.

  • Most Truthful and Patriotic Layton, UT
    Nov. 12, 2012 1:53 p.m.

    NO candidate should be "surprised" that at the outcome of a close election.

    Mia, get some experience under your belt.
    Learn what YOU truly believe in, not what the Tea Party tells you to say.
    Run for a state-level office, rather than trying to jump from "mayor of a subdivision" to the US House of Representatives.

  • Robb C Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 12, 2012 2:40 p.m.

    Just a note to those suggesting Mia needs to first run for a state-level office: Jim Matheson didn't hold political office before running for the House.

  • GiuseppeG Murray, Utah
    Nov. 12, 2012 2:49 p.m.

    re: non-believer

    "How does this in anyway take away your right to live conservativly?"

    When I am forced to fund your choices. Live your life, make your own choices, don't force me to pay for your choices. It takes away from my choices.

  • Terry Sandy, UT
    Nov. 12, 2012 3:03 p.m.

    Mia was surprised because she was leading to different degrees in all the polls, but the independent and Libeterian vote appears to have come out in full force and some conservatives must have fallen for the same old rhetoric and un-truths in those biased media ads for a very narrow win. I have personally talked with Matheson and went down a list of questions to see how down the middle moderate/conservative he really is and he back talked his way out of every question without answering truthfully to confirm my suspicions that he is really very liberal in truth and only a moderate conservative when he needs to get re-elected. He was very dishonest and I can't believe conservatives still vote for this guy because they think his is honestly moderately conservative! He votes party line with Obama 90% of the time and his district in Utah needs to wake up and decide if they really support Obama and his big government budget deficit democrat/socialist values or conservative free market values and energy independence!

  • MESOUTE Albany, NY
    Nov. 12, 2012 3:05 p.m.

    Ge Party and Mia. B'bye.

  • DanO Mission Viejo, CA
    Nov. 12, 2012 3:10 p.m.

    Do you have children in public schools? I am funding your choices by paying taxes that fund public schools. Do you go to church? I am funding your choices by paying taxes which go to infrastructure and emergency services that support your church, yet they don't pay taxes. Do you shop at Walmart? I am funding your choices by paying into welfare systems that support the underpaid employees of Walmart.

  • Downtime Saint George, UT
    Nov. 12, 2012 3:46 p.m.

    They should both be ashamed of themselves. What a horrible, horrible thing it is for a politician to be running for office. Politics does not build character, it reveals it. None of them have any character, yet we keep electing and re-electing them. Shame on us and them.

  • TRUTH Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 12, 2012 4:03 p.m.

    Racism pervades the Democratic party......they will stop at nothing to see that minorities are not elected! Not one black or hispanic is in the Senate or is Governor of any state that is not a member of the GOP!

  • nehimomma Parsons, KS
    Nov. 12, 2012 4:16 p.m.

    I'm sure it has nothing to do with:

    Her wanting to stop all free and reduced lunches at school...cause you know all those kids get food stamps, so they are double dipping *huge eye roll*

    Her wanting to end the Department of Education, even though her opponent and many others pointed out that ending the DOE in turns destroys our special education system for disabled children and makes their IEP's and 504 plans unenforceable

    Her suggestion to close the DOE, which in turns closes the Office of Civil rights because they are a branch of the DOE. She seemed to not care nor understand what OCR does, and how we already proved with the Civil War, that Civil rights is a federal problem/federal solution NOT state level. Without OCR, kids could be freely discriminated in schools, via their health care (it enforces medicaid compliance issues), and OCR will even step in when a job has discriminated against someone.
    They enforce ADA and 504 of the rehabilitation act.

    I doubt she even knows what that is, she certainly had no understanding of what they did.

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    Nov. 12, 2012 4:26 p.m.

    TRUTH SAID: Racism pervades the Democratic party.
    the truth does seem to elude your posts.
    Does that silly statement even need to be addressed?
    From the Birth Certificate Party?

  • DanO Mission Viejo, CA
    Nov. 12, 2012 4:38 p.m.

    I hope "TRUTH" is using a sarcasm, because the statement is patently false. There are currently no black Senators from either party. The last elected one was Barack Obama whose appointed successor was also black. Bob Menendez for NJ is currently serving in the Senate. As for Governors, Deval Patrick (D) Massachusetts. Currently there are two Latino republican governors, but there have been Latino democrat governors as well.

  • Economist Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 12, 2012 4:39 p.m.

    she just needs more experience in budget, public finance, and governance. She'll have to drop the tea party-inspired partisan rhetoric. Earn a Master's Degree in Public Administration or Economics wouldn't hurt either.

    #Mia needs to learn, not just talk about platitudes and generalities. Her ignorance, at times, is overwhelming...

  • Woodyff Mapleton, UT
    Nov. 12, 2012 4:42 p.m.

    Non-beliver thinks that the Democrats offer freedom, in reality the liberals are attempt to control everything we do from what we eat to what medical treatment we get. The democrats are interested in control - not freedom. The younger generation seems to be looking for a 'hand out' and when all those that work to pay for those who don't contribute can no longer fund the programs then what will the younger generation do? Oh, so little wisdom!

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Nov. 12, 2012 5:50 p.m.

    Woodyff - really? I know it seems like I am an extreme liberal on these posts, but it is only in relationship to the outlandish comments made. These are right out of the Rush Limbaugh hates everyone script. Making blanket statements like these is either done as a bad attempt of a joke, or shows very little exposure to those you claim have these sentiments.

    Remember - it is this "younger generation" that has been off fighting in foreign lands for the past decade, putting their very lives on the line. Unless you have done as much, perhaps backing off the casting the first stone might be advised.

  • DN Subscriber 2 SLC, UT
    Nov. 12, 2012 6:01 p.m.

    Lots of vocal critics of Mia Love seem to come from outside Utah.

    She will have my vote and support for whatever office she runs for. She has the right values, policies, and is bold enough to state them. She can save our country. Santa Claus promises from liberals can only destroy it.

  • Free Agency Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 12, 2012 6:31 p.m.

    "No matter what the outlet, I'm going to do everything I can to preserve this country."

    With those words, Mia Love expressed perfectly why the Republicans lost in the general election. Like many Republcans, she's framing her own values as what's needed to "save this country." And any other values presumably are "destroying this country."

    Yet there were more people with differing values to the Republicans than who were in sync with them. So here's a tip for maybe getting elected the next time out: listen to what people different from you value and respect it, rather than demonize it.

    And if you can't accept their values, offer your own platform as just that--your own platform, rather than the only way America will survive. (cc: Mitt Romney)

  • Maudine SLC, UT
    Nov. 12, 2012 6:56 p.m.

    So, she didn't take into account the number of people who would actually vote, and she didn't think about the fact that some voters might choose neither her nor Matheson.

    Those reasons don't exactly add confidence in her abilities.

  • Woodyff Mapleton, UT
    Nov. 12, 2012 7:16 p.m.

    @UathBlueDevil - the issue is not whether I have served and with more years of experience and paying taxes for 50 years entitles me to an opinion. A large segment of our population consumes more than they contribute and a society can't continue that way. Have you every listened to Rush Limbaugh or only read the talking points from media matters? And I have seen the reports of our military returning and many are not the younger generation. FYI my son-in-law has served in the Army for the past 5 years and also served in Iraq. I am thankful for all that have served. That is not the point.

  • Shelama SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Nov. 12, 2012 11:37 p.m.

    Is there a Republican in the country who wasn't surprised at the election results? Good heck, I'm not even a Republican and I was surprised. Pleasantly.

  • ImaUteFan West Jordan, UT
    Nov. 12, 2012 11:45 p.m.

    Surprised? I believe that most Republicans in the country were flat out stunned by the election results.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Nov. 13, 2012 12:45 a.m.

    Woodff - I am not challenging your right to have an opinion - that is for all to have. What I am challenging is your opinion itself - simply stated that our kids are all takers, freeloaders, and people on the dole. What I am challenging it the notion that people who are on the "dole" and take from the government are leaches on society. I am challenging that senior citizens - the largest single block of people who get assistance - not young people as you infer - are doing so only because they are lazy. Even if every ethnic person in this country was taking government services, it would not out number the number of seniors who are taking government assistance.

    You have the right to believe the younger generation is a bunch of freeloaders, I choose to believe they are no more so than any generation that came before them.

    And no - I do not make a practice of listening to El Rush-bo. I have on occasion, and generally speaking I find him and his attitudes contra to the things I have been raised to believe in. He is neither honest, praise worthy, or of good report.

  • NH Transplant HEBER CITY, UT
    Nov. 13, 2012 4:07 a.m.

    To Economist: We need more housewives, small town mayors in Washington DC representing the PEOPLE! Please read Federalist #52! Our founding fathers intentionally had very few formal qualifications to serve in the House of Representatives. 25 years old, citizen, resident of the state where you reside,and only 7 years living in the county. "the door of this part of the federal government is open to merit of every description, whether native or adoptive, whether young or old, and without regard to poverty or wealth, or to any particular profession of religious faith." James Madison

  • We wear Blue ogden, ut
    Nov. 13, 2012 5:51 a.m.

    Mia Love is not ready for prime time!

    I am surprised Jim Matheson won. Not because he wasnt clearly the better choice, but because the Republican party in this state have gerrymandered the Democratic party districts into oblivion.

    I wish I could have voted for Matheson but Im stuck out hete in blood red land in northern Utah.
    Keep fighting Dems, we are not invisible.

  • cjb Bountiful, UT
    Nov. 13, 2012 6:45 a.m.

    Perhaps she lost is because I rightly point out in this forum that a vote for any conservative Republican (her) would be a vote to gut Social Security. Perhaps enough people read that and changed their minds.

    In her city, Saratoga Springs, where she is mayor, police at the time they were hired were promised pay raises on a certain schedule, it is in their contract. Now these police are being forced to take their lack of promised pay raises to arbitration.

    Just as police pay has been gutted from what was promised and what was expected, the same would happen with Social Security if enough people like her were elected.

    We have pur ourselves in a hole because of expensive needless wars that go on too long, and because of improper and insufficient regulation of the financial industry, let us heal ourselves by improving in these areas, not by taking a bite our of the poor and middle class.

  • yuvgot2bkidding Salt Lake, Utah
    Nov. 13, 2012 7:03 a.m.

    Sarah Palin, Jr.?

  • Itsme2 SLC, UT
    Nov. 13, 2012 7:56 a.m.

    Mia, please run again. I live in Millcreek and I voted for you. I also voted for Millcreek to become incorporated, but that measure lost too. The democrats who voted against it weren't interested in "new taxes". However, that doesn't stop them from voting for a president who will raise taxes on the rich. Dems are more than willing to take a handout, but don't you dare raise their taxes!

  • A Real Dad Lehi, Utah
    Nov. 13, 2012 8:59 a.m.

    Mia gave it away. Her inner circle became smaller and smaller as election day grew near. She turned away from those that got her the nomination. She relied on "experts" from the outside to help her in Utah. She forgot it was a local campaign. It was not rocket science. The mistakes she made were costly. Her administrative skills were lacking. Maybe she will do better next time or we will be fortunate and have a strong leader emerge. She is a nice lady, but she is not a strong leader.

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    Nov. 13, 2012 9:40 a.m.

    Mia would have been a great representative. By the way, Ronald Reagan wanted to dismantle the Department of Edumacation. He didn't do it but he ran on that premise in 1980. So what's wrong with that today?

    Advise to Jimmy, move into the district. We have some perfectly good homes he could live in out in Kearns.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Nov. 13, 2012 9:55 a.m.

    TRUTH
    Salt Lake City, UT
    Racism pervades the Democratic party......they will stop at nothing to see that minorities are not elected! Not one black or hispanic is in the Senate or is Governor of any state that is not a member of the GOP!

    4:03 p.m. Nov. 12, 2012

    =============

    So off-based we should just ignore it...but,

    I recall the President of the United States had a (D) next to his name on the ballot.

    Save the drama for your Mamma.

    Do youself a radio - stop listening to AM hate radio.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Nov. 13, 2012 9:56 a.m.

    She'll be back, probably in 2014. Most conservatives were shocked by the election because they get all their information from Fox Noise and Talk Radio. They live in a bubble. The national polls were very accurate. The local polls for the Love/Matheson race were not. That's because of who was doing the polls and the fact they have very little knowledge of what is really happening out on the streets. They like most Republicans still live in the past and think names like Regean resonate with our youth and minorities. Those consituents are growing and carry cell phones and live off the local pollsters grid. In future electios pay attention to Nate Silver. That guy is a numbers geek and is always spot on. But offcourse, you can continue to listen to Karl Rove and Dick Morris if you prefer fantasy land instead of the real world.

  • john mclane Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 13, 2012 10:14 a.m.

    @Woodyff: "A large segment of our population consumes more than they contribute..."

    Yes, and this large segment is call "the elderly." Our largest entitlement program is Medicare, and those old people certainly are taking more than they contribute. So I hope you plan to cover your own medical insurance and expenses in your retirement, because you don't want to be one of those freeloaders you so loudly decry.

    I'm OK taking care of our elderly, because as a society we have decided that we will take care of the most vulnerable among us through programs such as Medicare and Social Security. I gladly contribute to those programs, knowing that my grandparents and my parents will be well taken care of.

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    Nov. 13, 2012 12:15 p.m.

    To "Happy Valley Heretic" yes, the Democrats should answer why they paraded around so much. Ever since Hillary Clinton began the quest to find out about Obama's birth certificate, that is all I hear from about 1/3 of democrats is that Obama was born in Kenya.

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    Nov. 13, 2012 4:56 p.m.

    Yes Hillary may have raised the question but the Radio comedians, republicans and their poster boys made it there own.

    -because 97.8% of Republicans I've talked to believe it. Taking your lead I made up a bigger number, so now I'm right, right?

  • WHS FAN SARATOGA SPRINGS, UT
    Nov. 13, 2012 7:03 p.m.

    I would like to know how many votes she got in Saratoga Springs. I don't know of anyone in our city who voted for her. That says a lot. She is a nice person, but was not qualified for the job.

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Nov. 13, 2012 7:27 p.m.

    Mia Love lost because Matheson is not that liberal guy the far right paints him to be. I was impressed with Utah voters. Even conservatives here in Utah value Matheson's leadership over a rookie was being used by the far right to represent them. Luckily Utah's voters saw through this.

    Love has an impressive story. She is young. pretty and diverse, but her politics turned it's back on her own success story, relative to others cut from the same cloth to achieve the so called American dream like Mia did. I applaude Mia's rise, but she was not ready to represent Utah, and needs to reevaluate her own stance like the rest of the GOP on where they want to go. I hope the stop pandering the richest %1

  • How gr8 isthat Washington, UT
    Nov. 13, 2012 10:31 p.m.

    Both major parties HAVE TO COME TO THE MIDDLE. So many people on the right watch FOX and those on the left watch MSNBC. Hannity and Rachel are making tons of money and polarizing Their particular party to the extreme weakening our country. Good luck to us all.

    Somebody surviving without a political affiliation somewhere in the middle.

  • UTAH Bill Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 14, 2012 2:25 a.m.

    I just couldn't buy Love's insistence that she's a fiscal Conservative. Her record showed otherwise. To balance her budget she raised city taxes three (!!!) times and even raised her own salary. Fiscal restraint starts in one's own backyard. Matheson was no perfect choice either, but we know what we’re getting with him.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Nov. 14, 2012 6:29 a.m.

    "To "Happy Valley Heretic" yes, the Democrats should answer why they paraded around so much. Ever since Hillary Clinton began the quest to find out about Obama's birth certificate, that is all I hear from about 1/3 of democrats is that Obama was born in Kenya."

    This statement lacks almost all credibility. I would love to see a single source that backs this statement up. Not eve 1/3rd of Tea Partiers subscribe to this Donald Trump driven issues. When you have the Donald offering 5 million for proof as publicity stunt, and still no credible proof is delivered, you know this dog just doesn't have legs.

    What a sad attempt to race-bait this conversation. Mia deserves far more than this.

    You learn to win through loosing. Mia will be smarter next time, and will drive her own campaign next time for what ever office she runs for......

  • Bill McGee Alpine, UT
    Nov. 16, 2012 6:37 a.m.

    TRUTH: There are currently 42 Black Democratic members of Congress and only 2 Black Republicans. There are 23 Hispanic Democratic members of Congress, including Democratic Senator Robert Menendez from New Jersey, and only 8 Republicans. All 11 Asians in Congress, including 2 US Senators, belong to the Democratic Party.