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Mormon leaders congratulate Obama, urge members to pray for him

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  • md Cache, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 8:43 a.m.

    Definitely pray for him. He needs a conscience, intelligence and common sense. Pray for each of these traits.

  • Andrew J. Marksen Deseret, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 9:08 a.m.

    Nope. I realize this is very un-Christian position but praying for a man that believes in abortion, gay marriage, and taking what others have no right to seems wrong at the moment. Pray for the man tearing apart the very liberties, and independence that God inspired seems rather ungrateful to the God that graciously gave us those things. There is no wisdom in the destruction of freedom only oblivion. There is nothing praiseworthy about breaking the backs of ordinary Americans with the power of an oppressive federal government. There is nothing noble in the destruction of the family. How can the right thing be cheering, supporting, and praying for a man who is destroying God's gift of freedom? How is praying for Obama anything more than praying for our own destruction at the hands of God?

    Distasteful? Yes, but it is honest.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 9:18 a.m.

    Andrew J. Marksen
    Deseret, UT
    Nope....

    =============

    Follow the Prophet.

    Anything otherwise else considered Apostate.

    You're skating on some very VERY thin ice...Brother Marksen.

  • Liberal Ted Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 9:23 a.m.

    Jesus taught us to pray for our enemies, pray for the ones who dispitefully use you....I'm guessing that's the point that is being made to pray for bo.

    Half the nation still disagrees with the left agenda that bo has embraced and shoved down our throats. We'll just have to wait two years to gain control more of the house and senate. Then elect a real president in 2016 and try to begin to fix the mess.

    Until then bo will be a lame duck president, managing the decline of what was the greatest country in the world.

    For the first time in my adult life, I'm ashamed to be American

  • Liberal Ted Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 9:27 a.m.

    We just need to pass a law. Whichever politician you elect. You get to pay the tax increases that they push through.

    Now that is fair. That way you always can vote for the programs you want and you can pay for it. That's change we need and change we can believe in.

  • Sparon austin, TX
    Nov. 7, 2012 9:33 a.m.

    Brother Marksen,
    I can understand your feelings. I can only beg you to read what the savior said in times like these.
    Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.

    44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

    45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

    Take courage my friend. the problems ahead cannot be solved by a President of a nation, but by the Gospel of Christ. And the Lord in his infinite wisdom is sending more laborers (18 yr old youngmen, 19 year old youngwomen) in his Vineyard, You and I just need to help bring people unto the savior. Love
    Your brother in Christ.

  • Nana Gohn Grand Junction, CO
    Nov. 7, 2012 9:34 a.m.

    We can always pray to our Heavenly Father and ask that he give the opportunity for others to soften their hearts and open their minds. Not just for the leaders of this great country but around the world, as well as for every person on the earth. We are all focused on trying to get to the same place. It might do us well as a nation to pray that our own hearts and minds be opened, and ask Father what we can do to make a difference in the lives of those in need. After all, the very core of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is to follow the example of our Savior, Jesus Christ.

  • Democrat Provo, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 9:41 a.m.

    Thanks to the First Presidency & Apostles for being gracious and reminding us that our leaders need God's help. I hope to follow their counsel.

    Thanks to Governor Romney for a gracious concession speech and stating that he too, will pray for the President.

    And thank you President Obama for your humble victory speech and acknowleding George and Lenore Romney and how they and their son have dedicated their lives to public service.

    We can spend the next four years surfing left-wing blogs or listening to right-wing radio. Or we can pray for our leaders, pull up our bootstraps and get to work like our grandparents did during the Depression and World War II. God Bless America!

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 9:41 a.m.

    @liberal ted
    Shoved down our throats? He was just reelected by the majority of Americans. the right really needs to find some new rhetoric or better yet drop the rhetoric and join the conversation of trying to find reasonable solutions.

  • raybies Layton, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 9:47 a.m.

    the greatest thing about being a citizen of this country is that when all the bickering and fighting is over, we come together peaceably for another four years and do our best to make our country great. Without war, without violent conflict, and with a great deal of respect one for another. it's been a hard fought contest, but it is neither the end nor the beginning... it is our country still alive and moving forward. i'm grateful to belong to a church that encourages optimism and respect. my prayers to all my fellow citizens. We have a great country, and we can make it better everyday.

  • Brahmabull sandy, ut
    Nov. 7, 2012 9:53 a.m.

    I just can't help but laugh because it is so akward to hear hateful comments from those who supported Romney. I have heard people call those who voted for Obama "dumb", "uneducated", "rediculous", and many many other things. It is like many on Romney's side have had their inner child come out with the slander, name calling, etc. It is quite sad that these people get upset that others in the country are allowed to have a different opinion. I have seen those who are democratic in mostly repulican families literally brought to tears because their families are so rude to them because of who they are voting for. Voting is individual. Just because your family, faith, school, etc. votes one way should have no infulence on how you choose to vote. Politics have become an embarassing thing to be a part of. If the party that loses has so much hate towards the other party, I would never want to be a part of that party. I was pulling for Romney, but hearing the hateful and childish remarks of many has turned me off entirely. We see the same thing in religion, persecuted if you are different.

  • ImaUteFan West Jordan, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 9:54 a.m.

    @Democrat -

    Well said, brother! Amen to everything you said.

    And to Marksen, well, good luck. I think you have some soul searching to do now.

  • embarrassed Utahn! Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 9:55 a.m.

    The super patriots of Utah don't seem so patriotic to me. Let's see how they respect the will of the American People...And our amazing President. I'm not expecting much. The vile nature of the comments Deseret News prints from right-wing ranters is really a disgrace. They turn me down routinely for my use of inconvenient truths.

  • Brahmabull sandy, ut
    Nov. 7, 2012 9:56 a.m.

    BTW LDS liberal - you stating that somebody is apostate for not doing everything the prophet suggests is flat out wrong. That statement by the lds church didn't sound like a commandment to me. So quit being holier than thou and let people state their opinion. Whether or not somebody prays for Obama or not will not have any bearing on their eternal salvation. I bet you don't do everything that the prophet says.

  • Noodlekaboodle Millcreek, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 10:00 a.m.

    I think a lot of LDS people are overlooking the major victory that LDS people all over this country made during this election. Mitt did lose. But he lost because Americans didn't agree with his policies, not because of his religion. Your religion has become accepted and somewhat respected by mainstream America. It was a virtual non issue in this campaign. People learned about your religion and realized your generally nice, normal people, not some sort of weird cult, and I think that is something that LDS people can be grateful for, even though their guy was defeated.

  • Woodhawk Tooele, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 10:00 a.m.

    I agree that we need to pray for Mr. Obama. He definitely needs more wisdom to lead this country than he seems to have. And for those that say we need to work with the liberals to get this country's problems fixed, I agree too. We definitely need to work together. Now... let's see... we can start with the abortion problem. How can we come to a middle ground there? Will the children only be partially aborted or just "almost" aborted? Oh! I'm sorry! When they say we need to "work" with them, did they mean we need do it their way? Hmmmmm. Prayer is definitely going to be needed to overcome the growing philosophical differences between us.

  • embarrassed Utahn! Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 10:10 a.m.

    Can you say "Sore-Loser"????

    Now repeat "I won't be a sore-loser, I won't be a sore-loser, I won't be a sore-loser".....that's it, very good!

  • Bored to the point of THIS! Ogden, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 10:15 a.m.

    You people are funny.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 10:20 a.m.

    I understand the First Presidency Message. They had to say it and honestly it was the right thing to say as a general statement but let's be real here for a minute ... how many latter day saints feel that praying for Barack Obama is going to change his heart? It is like praying for Korahor or Gadianton for heaven sake. I guess anything is possible with the Lord but men have their free agency and Obama has shown who he is and what he is and there is no mistaking it. Yes pray for the president and pray for your country but also remember this passage in the Book of Mormon from the prophet Mormon....

    “O ye fair ones, how could ye have departed from the ways of the Lord! O ye fair ones, how could ye have rejected that Jesus, who stood with open arms to receive you! Behold, if ye had not done this, ye would not have fallen. But behold, ye are fallen, and I mourn your loss.” (Mormon 6:17-20)

    It feels alot like we are repeating Nephite history here...

  • Democrat Provo, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 10:25 a.m.

    @Woodhawk:

    You ask a good question. Wherease abortion has been at a stalemate since 1973 (regardless of who we vote for), an area where both sides could compromise are the budget and deficit. We have been such a rich country since WWII that those who wanted spending got it, and those who wanted tax cuts got them too. Both sides need to be willing to put some sacred cows on the altar so that our children don't end having most of their tax dollars going to service interest on the national debt.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 10:36 a.m.

    Think of it this way, young conservatives in the church now have more incentive to go on a mission (you can actually move to Canada, or elsewhere, for half Obama's next term).

    Anywho, the country isn't going to be destroyed because of re-election. We already have that Democratic President, Democratic Senate and Republican House anyway and we've gained private sector jobs 33+ months in a row. The deficit this year is 200 billion less than it was last year. Things are getting better, and since we re-elected the same set I doubt there's going to be any sort of seismic shift.

    Except gay marriage, if you hate gay marriage well... then you're going to have to deal with being on the losing side of history on that one.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 10:38 a.m.

    You liberals act as if there is going to be some sort of "coming together" now. Really? Should we all support late term abortion now? Should we respect your right to kill children? Should we buy into your 16 trillion deficits ... soon to be 20 trillion and say it's all ok? Really? Right is right people and wrong is wrong and that doesn't change. Do I respect Barack Obama? No! Not as a person and most definitely not as a president. But it goes much deeper than Barack Obama. America is no long the "united states" and we certainly aren't "one nation under God". For heaven sake your party booed God right out of your convention .... remember? I don't even recognize half of this country anymore nor do I claim them.

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 10:43 a.m.

    Our country certainly needs us to pray for him, we won't be able to handle another 4 years of what we've just endured. We're set for bad times ahead, start (if you haven't already) saving your pennies.

    Here's where I see our challenges:
    1) stalemate in Congress, 4 more years of fighting and lack of bill production
    2) nuclear warhead in Iran while we continue to 'talk' to them
    3) Israel attacks Iran leading to use of the warhead on Israel. US will stand by and watch
    4) Iraq continues to grow anti-American sentiment with little input from Obama
    5) Healthcare mandate costs grow and businesses suffer while implementing it
    6) Fiscal cliff dive happens and we all suffer financially
    7) Debt to China continues to grow
    8) Govt subsidies of green energy die off due to financial shortfalls in the govt
    9) XL Pipeline obstacles maintain US dependence on foreign oil
    10) Economy shows growth potential but is hurt by all the above

    We're in a bad way and have no potential to climb out of the hole, at least not for the next four years. Pray for America, we need it.

  • Just Me Richfield, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 10:46 a.m.

    Re: bramabull
    "It is like many on Romney's side have had their inner child come out with the slander, name calling, etc"

    Careful what color your calling the pot. I can't BELIEVE that I heard so many people still blaming Bush for the economic problems when gas was $1.89 when he left office. It has more than doubled and that effects everything you buy!!! Milk is up. Butter is up. All other food is up. Merchandise is up. ALL because it costs more to ship.

    I don;t disagree that the "inner child" is coming out, but it's on all sides in all places.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 10:47 a.m.

    LDS Lib,

    I would call skating on thin ice supporting gay marriage when your Mormon prophets and apostles do not.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 10:48 a.m.

    Brahmabull
    sandy, ut
    BTW LDS liberal - you stating that somebody is apostate for not doing everything the prophet suggests is flat out wrong.

    ==========

    Oh really?
    I get called Apostate all the time for my support;
    Pro-Choice [Rape, Incest, Life & Health of the women, ect.],
    Civil Unions & Domestic Partnerships [but not for gay-Marriage],
    being Pro-Life by being Anti-War, and anti-State-Death penalties,
    being an Mother Earth loving, eco-firendly tree-hugging greenie-weenie,
    being mostly vegan by following the Word of Wisdom by eating meat sparingly,

    all the time following the Brethren -

    but being judged and called Apostate all the time for not being a jack-booted, lock stepped Republican by fellow LDS members.

    When one puts Party loyalty and political alligence ahead of follow the Lord,
    That is the high road to Apostasy...that's all.

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    Nov. 7, 2012 10:50 a.m.

    The choice between a centrist President and right wing extremism was an easy choice for me to make. Romney came close and he might have won the White House if only he hadn't waited so long to separate himself from those elements who are destroying the Republican Party.

  • GZE SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 10:54 a.m.

    Actually, it is only 48 percent of the nation who does not agree with President Obama's agenda. The MAJORITY chose him to continue to lead us. Majority rules; isn't that what Utah's predominant culture always tells us?

  • Me, Myself and I The Promised Land, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 10:57 a.m.

    First off I agree with praying for our nations leaders. If you believe in prayer it's something we should do no matter who is elected. Secondly I read on this comment thread about all the Romney supporters who are slanderous and speaking ill of President Obama. Personally I haven't seen near as many of these attacks as I have from Obama supporters towards Governor Romney. I do believe most of the negative comments from the left are coming from younger and in some cases ignorant people who don't have much respect for anything or anyone but themselves. On the other hand I believe most of the negative comments from the right are coming from adults, many who are educated and need to act their age. Either way we can work together to make things better or complain and belittle and make them worse. We don't have to agree or sacrifice our values to maintain an acceptable level of civility.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 10:58 a.m.

    We pray for leaders of countries throughout the world to soften their positions to let missionary work progress. We should pray in that way here to have him soften his heart to live by the Constitutional and governmental process that our country was founded on. He sets the tone in our country and I would pray for him to speak kindly to the people of the world about our country and value system that has existed for hundreds of years.

    He does have a monumental task to lead for 4 more years with a Vice-President that can show kindness in all that he does for our country's citizens.

    The budgetary and financial and economic situation hasn't gone away, which he will have 4 more years to deal with. He won't be running again and he has 4 more years to establish the Nobel Peace that he was given in the first 100 days of his Presidency.

    He has a lot for us to pray for as we live in a country that has a lot to pray for. Roughly 50 percent voted for both men. We need to pray for citizens to pray also for peace.

  • Liberal Ted Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 11:01 a.m.

    @ Tolstoy salt lake, UT

    "Shoved down our throats? He was just reelected by the majority of Americans"

    A very soft majority. Of course many of the voters never had to prove that they were who they said they were.

    That's besides the point. If the "majority" had put in more democrats into the house and senate then maybe, you could claim that. The fact is, the democrats narrowly won an election.

    If you love the health care, then you can pay the taxes for it and enjoy everything that goes with it.

    Just because some people like to borrow and spend money we don't have, doesn't mean that everyone wants to be on that credit statement.

    Are you telling me you can't compromise to balance the budget and pay down the debt? Can you guarantee tax increases will solely and only go to pay off the debt? The fact is tax increases have never helped to dig us out.

  • cjb Bountiful, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 11:02 a.m.

    Modern LDS leaders certainly act close to the way I would expect of leaders of a church of God.

    Congradulating President Obama on his win against Govenor Romney (a member of the LDS church) and then asking members to pray for him, is certainly a classy move.

  • Liberal Ted Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 11:07 a.m.

    @GZE

    I've never heard "Majority rules" in the predominant Utah culture. Since that predominant group is a minority in just about every state and country on this earth. Why would they want to subject themselves to the bottom with that comment? Think that one through.

    Funny but when George Bush won and continued his policies, there was talk from the left that close to half the nation opposed him and how dare he continue. When the opposite happens then it's okay?

    You've just proven that the left is no different than the right, in that sense.

    As long as you and others keep up that talk the stalemate continues and nothing happens.

  • sergio Phoenix, AZ
    Nov. 7, 2012 11:12 a.m.

    One thing to be said about the Birthers and Tea party people is that they don't know how to win and they don't know how to gracefully lose. The only thing they do seem to know how to do well is whine.

  • mightyhunterhaha Kaysville, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 11:14 a.m.

    It is an interesting time as we reflect on the eleection and with the lesson in Gospel Doctirine addressing 4th Nephi. Verse 17 says ...nor any manner of -ites; but they were in one, the children of Christ, and heirs to the kingdom of God. Now I'm not saying one party is better than the other. I am saying that we are now having -ites in Republicans nd Democrats. We should work on becoming one. Lets find some common ground and work together as a nation and as a people. Am I disappoint Romney did not win yes, but I can pray for Obama that he will lead the nation in righteousness. Democrats can pray that Republicans will lead Congress in righteousness. I can have hope. I can have faith. I can have charity. Contention is not of God.

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    Nov. 7, 2012 11:19 a.m.

    I think it is remarkable that an African-American, a Mormon, and two Catholics were our candidates last night. I remember a time when that simply would not have been possible. A lot of blood was spilled during my lifetime to make this happen. Whatever our politics, we should be grateful for the courage of patriots and pioneers.

  • George Bronx, NY
    Nov. 7, 2012 11:23 a.m.

    @liberal ted
    the failure to even consider compromise was part of Romney and the GOP's down fall. they flatly refused to consider a balanced approach of reducing spending and raising taxes. They refused to consider cuts in military spending that the military it self is asking for. They refused to even consider having a conversation about Obama's budget plan in congress and instead labeled it dead on arrival, again not even considering compromise. As for the rest of your post that rhetoric lost you the election it certainly is not going to win you the argument afterwards. it is time to consider a return to common sense if you want your voice to matter.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 11:23 a.m.

    God bless everyone, no exceptions.

  • George Bronx, NY
    Nov. 7, 2012 11:24 a.m.

    @patriot
    Did you ever stop to think maybe it is not the rest of the country that is a problem but rather your extreme views and empty rhetoric that is the problem?

  • no fit in SG St.George, Utah
    Nov. 7, 2012 11:25 a.m.

    We understood through broadcast media, printed media, social media, and word of mouth, that millions of people throughout the world were praying for a Romney victory prior to the election.

  • Brahmabull sandy, ut
    Nov. 7, 2012 11:35 a.m.

    Just Me

    I agree that it comes from both sides. I pointed out the republican side because since Obama won I have seen more hateful comments towards Obama supporters then I have seen from the other side. The whole point is, everybody votes who they feel will benefit them and the country. That doesn't make anybody dumb because they have a different view on policy or anything for that matter. The cards fell where they fell and the people have spoken. Calling names to another party has never been productive.

    LDS liberal - Just because people called you apostate doesn't actually mean you are apostate. Everybody has different opinions and thats ok. My point was that nobody should be calling anybody apostate. I am, by definition an apostate of the mormon church. I chose to not be a part of it because I don't believe it anymore. And the persecution I have seen because of it makes me know that I made the right decision. I would never want to be a part of a religion that makes people feel guilty or persecuted when they change their mind and leave. Don't call anybody apostate.

  • Redshirt1701 Deep Space 9, Ut
    Nov. 7, 2012 11:38 a.m.

    To "LDS Liberal" you said "Follow the Prophet. Anything otherwise else considered Apostate." Does that mean you are now open admitting that you are apostate?

    Afterall, you believe in moral relativity (nothing is black and white), you firmly believe in socialism, and have even advocated for drug abuse.

    Prophets have declared that moreal relativity, socialism, and drug abuse are wrong, yet you believe in them.

    So, does this mean you are finally coming clean and are openly admitting to the world your standing with the gospel?

  • Gracie Boise, ID
    Nov. 7, 2012 11:41 a.m.

    "May our national leaders reflect the best in wisdom and judgment as they fulfill the great trust afforded to them by the American people."

    The above injunction by our General Authorities has only positive intentions and it follows the Lord's commandment on such a practice which some of you have already quoted. None supports evil principles or gives a pass to those who endorse them. Whether or not Pres. Obama is touched by the Spirit, as we pray for him to do so, is up to him. What we have to deal with is whether we will have the moral courage to follow the prophet in this and every other way. America didn't get into danger overnight nor without a great deal of complicity among the citizenry. I believe we, though, as covenant people, need to step up to the moral issues we've kept out of the public arena during this election period. As a group we focused almost entirely on business and money. Romney savaged family-values candidates until he was the only Republican left standing. How we live our religion is critical to influence effective Constitutional government. What we do next is the key.

  • skeetaro Boise, ID
    Nov. 7, 2012 11:48 a.m.

    @Andrew J Marksen: You are correct about one thing...you're comments are distasteful, un-Christian and offensive to every American Citizen. My God does not take political sides nor does He believe that anything is leading to "the destruction of the family". No, perhaps the President does not need your prayers...but you definitely need ours.

  • LValfre CHICAGO, IL
    Nov. 7, 2012 11:49 a.m.

    @patriot,

    Thanks for the laughs as usual. Your beliefs and generation is aging and soon will be nill. The youth is moving forward with a new, enlightened view of the world. One where we accept everyone, love all, and don't push our beliefs on the public at large.

  • andyjaggy American Fork, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 12:04 p.m.

    It's always entertaining reading the comments on here. I am happy to see many level headed people who are ready to move forward and get this country moving again.

    Kudos to the church for their gracious statement, I am glad our church is presided over by calm and wise people.

    And then of course we have the commentators comparing Obama to Korihor and Gadianton, those kinds of comments are what keep me coming back here when I need a good chuckle.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 12:14 p.m.

    Redshirt1701
    Deep Space 9, Ut

    Good morning RedShirt.
    I'm surprised to see you here.

    Tell me RedShirt.

    Are YOU going to follow the Prophet and pray for the President,
    or are you going to continue to trash talk and wish his failure (and our own) demise?

  • Bored to the point of THIS! Ogden, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 12:17 p.m.

    re no fit in SG

    Sometimes the answer is no.

  • DavidNL Holladay, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 12:30 p.m.

    While praying for our newly, democratically re-elected president, perhaps some introspection, self reflection and humility -- not to mention gratitude -- could be added to the mix. We are the greatest nation in history not because we spend our time and energy ranting and foaming about differences, but because we have always figured out a way to rise above our differences and find common ground. To move forward. That is our true hope for progress and for peace. Prayer alone won't get us there. It's time to put our shoulder to the wheel and push like never before. Together. That is my prayer.

  • ute alumni Tengoku, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 12:32 p.m.

    Wonder if mitt would have won if Jeremiah wright would have asked for all to pray for him, I don't think so

  • Baccus0902 Leesburg, VA
    Nov. 7, 2012 12:32 p.m.

    @Democrat 9:41

    Well said!!

    Congratulations President Obama.
    Congratualtions to Mr. Romney for given his best to his campaign.

    We are not a country of losers. We are not a country of Democrats. We are not a country of Republicans. We are a country of Americans. It is time to go back to the basics.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 12:34 p.m.

    Sour grapes of Biblical proportions!

  • Anti Bush-Obama Washington, DC
    Nov. 7, 2012 12:35 p.m.

    Don't blame me. I voted for Gary Johnson. I didn't vote for the lesser of two evils. So my conciense is clear.

  • non believer PARK CITY, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 12:39 p.m.

    "The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion." Our Founding Fathers 1797 could not have said it better! The President represents all people of America, religious and non-religious alike. This is a major victory for those who do not adhere to the Christian religion which is the way out country was inteded to be run!

  • Rick2009 MESA, AZ
    Nov. 7, 2012 12:43 p.m.

    I thought prayer needed to be followed by faith, and I have no faith in our leaders.

  • dallas realist rockwall, texas
    Nov. 7, 2012 12:45 p.m.

    Cant we all just get along? Ya last night I felt sick to my stomach but Ill get over it. Obama is not a bad president, we have had worse. The main thing I am worried about is Obamacare. please no !

  • Third try screen name Mapleton, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 12:51 p.m.

    The national political scene (and to a lesser extent, the local) is sorely lacking in morality and a belief in God, two elements that John Adams declared were necessary for our form of government to function.
    But this turning away from God is consistent with the description of the Second Coming.
    Whether we are ten years out or a hundred is beside the point; we are living the end times.

  • donn layton, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 12:58 p.m.

    RE:dallas realist, Cant we all just get along.

    We prayed for peace, while I was at the V.A. With other Vietnam veterans on 11/6/12 ,When I was told that Retired Special Forces and Navy SEALS Headed to Polls, Counter Black Panther Presence, Here's the bottom line: Voters who may have otherwise been intimidated by union thugs or the presence of the New Black Panthers will certainly be encouraged when they see their polls flanked by heroes of the U.S. military.

    500 Admirals and Generals Endorsed Gov. Romney

  • CHS 85 Sandy, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 12:59 p.m.

    @ute alumni

    Once again bringing up Jeremiah Wright. That helped your candidates so well in both 2008 and 2012. We'll never know if he would have asked Americans to pray for Mitt Romney. In case you weren't watching the news last night, Mitt Romney did not win the election.

    Why don't we work with what we have, not conjecture. How does constant vitriol move us forward?

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 1:06 p.m.

    re:George

    nearly 50% of America voted AGAINST your socialist president George - that represents about 140 million people. I think I have some company in my "extreme views". I will always keep my "extreme views" of small government as our founders (Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Madison) set forth oh and my "extreme views" that life is sacred oh and that gigantic debt is a bad thing oh and a strong military in a dangerous world is a good thing etc.... Recall that in the 1750's Washington , Jefferson, and the other framers of our constitution were considered "mad men" with extreme views to be avoided by King George and his group of tyrants. George - unbounded entitlements are unsustainable and it doesn't matter if you believe it or not - the reality will soon come crushing down just like it has for Greece. What will you say George when the entitlements are gone? Whose fault will it be? Who will we tax ? Who will we borrow from? Remember George - it was YOUR party that booed God during your convention!!! Who is the extreme one here?

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 1:20 p.m.

    @patriot
    "it was YOUR party that booed God during your convention!!! "

    No, our party booed the fact that they clearly had the votes to prevent the God language from being reinserted (since they think it's best to have language that is neutral with regards to religion in order to be more inclusive of people who aren't Christian) but were ignored by party leadership. They were booing the party leadership, not God. Then again, don't let context stop you from making a partisan baseless attack.

  • viejogeezer CARLSBAD, CA
    Nov. 7, 2012 1:23 p.m.

    To Patriot:
    Your quotation from Mormon is right on point, however, as I read all the prophets of the Book of Mormon as well as Isaiah, Jeremiah, Malachi, and The Doctrine and Covenants the reason for destruction of the fair ones(be it Jerusalem or the nephites) was pride, inequality of wealth and education, grinding the face of the poor (Isaiah 3:15), and environmental destruction (eating up the vineyard , Isaiah 3:14). I don't see the Lord ever complaining about universal health care, banking regulations, or progressive taxation.

  • xscribe Colorado Springs, CO
    Nov. 7, 2012 1:41 p.m.

    Patriot, I do believe you need to start your own communist country where your goverment can then make everyone believe exactly as you do. You obviously want to go so far as to mandate religion, and rant about killing babies. Guess what, even your beloved Romney believed in killing babies in the case of rape, incest, and if the life of the mother was endangered. Now, maybe you believe in zero tolerance for abortions; if so, I hope you voted for a candidate that felt the same, and I hope you belong to a religion that feels the same. Otherwise, your words are meaningless to me!

  • Redshirt1701 Deep Space 9, Ut
    Nov. 7, 2012 1:43 p.m.

    To "LDS Liberal" I have never wished for his failure. If he is a failure as a President, then the nation is also failing.

    I have hoped for his policies to fail to be implemented. His success is the success of the nation. I will continue to do as I have for a long time. I will pray for the success and prosperity of this nation.

    A president's success is not measured by the bills he pushed, but by how well the nation prospers while he is in office. So far I would not consider his actions as helping us to prosper. He will go down in history as a failure BECAUSE of his policies, not because of a failure to implement policies.

  • NightOwlAmerica SALEM, OR
    Nov. 7, 2012 1:58 p.m.

    Welcome to the new United States. Home of the lazy and dependent.
    Those looking for work need not apply. We will just provide a free cell phone and flat screen TV.

    I pray that Obama will take money from his offshore investments and put it into Obamacare as an example that we should help each other willingly. Not forcefully as those that voted for him.

  • NMEEERCL Houston, TX
    Nov. 7, 2012 2:02 p.m.

    Therefore, choose you by the voice of this people, judges, that ye may be judged according to the laws which have been given you by our fathers, which are correct, and which were given them by the hand of the Lord.

    Now it is not common that the voice of the people desireth anything contrary to that which is right; but it is common for the lesser part of the people to desire that which is not right; therefore this shall ye observe and make it your law—to do your business by the voice of the people.

    And if the time comes that the voice of the people doth choose iniquity, then is the time that the judgments of God will come upon you; yea, then is the time he will visit you with great destruction...

    Mosiah 29

  • just-commenting Logan, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 2:27 p.m.

    The presidential election was good news for the country last night. The winning party stands on principles of the Gospel stated in the Book of Mormon. ". . . they did not send away any who were naked, or that were hungry, or that were athirst, or that were sick, or that had not been nourished; and they did not set their hearts upon riches; therefore they were liberal to all, both old and young, both bond and free, both male and female, whether out of the church or in the church, having no respect to persons as to those who stood in need." Alma 1:30.

    The outcome showed that we can hope for Christian charity, honesty, and love for ALL of God's children.

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 2:28 p.m.

    @patriot
    If you really believe half of what you posted I would suggest a little more history lessons and a little less posting in your future. You do realize the founding fathers had conflicting views on the role of government? You do of courser realize the founding fathers only where able to establish our form of government and therefore our country because in the end they where willing to compromise, right?

  • LValfre CHICAGO, IL
    Nov. 7, 2012 2:32 p.m.

    @Redshirt1701
    "
    A president's success is not measured by the bills he pushed, but by how well the nation prospers while he is in office."

    I beg to differ. This is an important measurement but the policies, bills, and changes implemented will potentially last for many years. The end result of these programs will be measured for many years. Some may do great now (bailouts) and crash and burn later. Some will do nothing now and in 20-30 years we may be thanking our lucky stars Obama put them in place.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Nov. 7, 2012 2:51 p.m.

    Really..... there are people on this earth that some deem unworthy of ones prayers.... wow.

    You have a direct example from the leaders of the church of one of the candidates, and yet still some will put politics ahead of faith. Things have absolutely gone upside down.

    My son is serving a mission in a former soviet block county, one still struggling with the idea of what freedom is.... and in this small country you have members faithfully living the gospel, praying for their leaders. And yet here, in a country where we enjoy one of the most free lifestyles of any in the world, we have those who feel they have the judgement enough to decide who is worthy of prayer or not.

    I am worried for America - but not because of Obama, nor Romney, but those who think they are in a place to judge other people and decide who is worthy of prayer.

  • Redshirt1701 Deep Space 9, Ut
    Nov. 7, 2012 2:55 p.m.

    To "just-commenting" you are wrong. Charity and the aid of the needy is not forced.

    You need to go and learn more about LDS doctrine. What we saw was exactly what we have been warned about in modern times. See D&C 56:17 "17 Wo unto you poor men, whose hearts are not broken, whose spirits are not contrite, and whose bellies are not satisfied, and whose hands are not stayed from laying hold upon other men’s goods, whose eyes are full of greediness, and who will not labor with your own hands!".

    The poor are taking (through the laws and taxation) from the wealthy.

    Also, read Jacob 2. There we learn that it is up to each individual (not government) to help the hungry and needy.

    Also see D&C 58:26 "For behold, it is not meet that I should command in all things; for he that is compelled in all things, the same is a slothful and not a wise servant; wherefore he receiveth no reward."

    Why do yo want to destroy us by forcing us into charity?

    To "LValfre" in 20 to 30 years we will be cursing Obama's policies and debts.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Nov. 7, 2012 3:06 p.m.

    Wasn't it Mark Twain who said in one of his books, "You can't pray a lie"? I can't pray and ask God to help any leader destroy our country! I can't pray and ask God to bless a leader who is wrong on every moral issue! Ask God to help Obama provide more abortions? Ask God to help Obama lead our country into more debt? Ask God to help Obama cover-up more scandals? Ask God to help Obama waste more tax money?

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 3:07 p.m.

    its always strikes me how the same posters that use their religion to try to defend their politics and claim that to question their political opinion is the same as attacking on their religion are so quick to turn their back on their religious leaders counsel when it does not fit their political agenda.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 3:59 p.m.

    As demonstrated above religion and politics should not be mixed.

  • Montana Mormon Miles City, MT
    Nov. 7, 2012 4:02 p.m.

    If the communication between the Executive Branch and Legislative Branch is (continues to be) as vitriolic and dysfunctional as what we see among everyday Americans in the blogosphere, such as we see in this thread of comments, we are toast--Game Over.

    If you don't want to pray for the President, then pray for America.

  • WinnieThePooh Summerside/Canada, 00
    Nov. 7, 2012 4:10 p.m.

    I strongly feel that LDS Canadians should pray for Obama as well as the Americans and we should pray for a spiritual conversion for him as well since he's for Abortion and for Gay rights since only the Lord can convict him on those two moral issues.

  • Californian#1@94131 San Francisco, CA
    Nov. 7, 2012 4:39 p.m.

    I've made it a habit to pray for the leaders of the U.S. and other nations.

    I pray for them to have wisdom and be guided by what is best for their people and all the people of the world, rather than their own personal agendas or ambitions. Seeing the kind of people that most leaders of most nations are, that is the prayer they need most.

    And seeing the quality of political leadership America has had recently, I pray even more fervently for America than I do for its leaders.

  • Jazzledazzle Provo, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 4:43 p.m.

    I really really wanted Romney to win. I am 28, I am young, I know that. I have never cared so much about an election and when Obama was announced the winner it literally felt like someone punched me in the stomach. I was ornery the rest of the night. Now that I have had a chance to let it sink in, I will just say although I do not agree with who the president is, I love the USA, we live in the greatest country in the world, and I do pray that we can get out of this recession and I pray for President Obama's success. He is the President and I will support him as hard as it is for me to do. Good run by Romney, he convinced nearly half the nation.

  • Wildcat O-town, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 5:08 p.m.

    It looks like the Romney Reader is going to have to go back to being the D-News...I told you it would happen.

    The bitterness is strong in some--getting upset because the LDS leaders want their members to pray for the President? Wow.

    Forward we go as a Nation! Hallelujah and amen!

    Oh by the way, I thought Romney's concession speech was great. If only he was ran his campaign as his own person and tried to be a moderate...could have been a whole lot different.

    Looks like Harry Reid remains the highest-ranked LDS politician. If you want a Mormon Moment, it's Harry Reid in 2016! I would think Huntsman would be a good choice for the GOP--but they are probably going to tack very far to the right next time.

    I pray for all of you on this board--some of you more than others! :-) God bless us all.

    Your Buddy,

    Wildcat

  • anti-liar Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 5:17 p.m.

    Pray for him, fine. But I see no need to congratulate him.

  • New York New York, NY
    Nov. 7, 2012 5:42 p.m.

    The American People have spoken - Barack Obama is our President for another four years.

    You may not agree with his policies, and that is okay, that's what this country is all about. But some of the comments on here are the lowest forms of human intelligence I have ever read/heard and must be contrary to any teachings of your Christ.

    The good news; all of you that loathe our President, well, you are in the Minority.

  • 22ozn44ozglass Southern Utah, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 5:45 p.m.

    After reading the comments from the Obama apologists, I wonder how different the timbre and content of their posts would be were Romney elected POTUS. So I ask these questions of all of the Obama apologists and supporters from the reasonable and civil ones to the rabid an irrational/contentious ones: how would you have responded had the First Presidency asked all Americans to pray for Romney?

    I wonder how many of the Obama apologists and supporters would honestly say-"our guy lost-I am now getting behind Romney and work on solving this nations problems and I am not going be a "sore loser"? and actually do so.

    Even though this is hypothetical, I would hope that all Obama supporters would honestly and with all truth & soberness answer my questions.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Nov. 7, 2012 6:37 p.m.

    mountainman said

    "Wasn't it Mark Twain who said in one of his books, "You can't pray a lie"? I can't pray and ask God to help any leader destroy our country! "

    Well, that would be relevant if some of us held Mark Twain was the leader of our church.... but he isn't the leader of mine, and I don't take my moral direction from him. In fact, Twain wasn't too much a fan or mormonism as exampled when he wrote

    "Am I a friend to the Mormon religion? No. I would like to see it extirpated, but always by fair means, not these Congressional rascalities. If you can destroy it with a book, -- by arguments and facts, not brute force, -- you will do a good and wholesome work." (letter written to Mrs. Fields while in Hartford in 1886)

    So no, I don't put much into Mr. Twains opinions. But choose who you will to follow - that is your business.

  • Instereo Eureka, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 6:45 p.m.

    After reading all the comments and reading Facebook today, I can say that the leadership of the church gets it and it appears that many of the members of the church don't. It also is a glimpse into the frustration that the prophets of old must have felt when they would tell the people what they needed to do to be right with the Lord and they were rejected.

  • A Scientist Provo, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 6:59 p.m.

    Before Election Day, I was pretty disgusted with the bad-mouthing, lies, and vitriol spewed by the religious and Republican crowd as the castigated our President. I couldn't imagine anyone stooping so low, especially under the banner of "Christians".

    But reading these comments, I must stand corrected. These people have stooped LOWER!

    Amazing! And very, very disappointing. I really expected more from people claiming to be "Christian".

    Obviously, I was wrong.

  • A Scientist Provo, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 7:06 p.m.

    Noodlekaboodle wrote:

    "I think a lot of LDS people are overlooking the major victory that LDS people all over this country made during this election. Mitt did lose. But he lost because Americans didn't agree with his policies, not because of his religion."

    You go ahead and keep telling yourself that to help you feel better...

  • WHAT NOW? Saint George, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 7:09 p.m.

    @patsy 1:06 pm

    "...nearly 50% of America voted AGAINST your socialist president George - that represents about 140 million people...".

    As reported @7:00 PM 11/7/12:

    The vote for President Obama was 60,567,122 representing 50% of the vote.

    The vote for romney was 57,744,506 representing 48% of the vote.

    140,000,000?

    Your failure to do basic research, to support your position, condems your efforts to be simple hyperbolic partisanship.

  • BCMom Brigham City, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 7:19 p.m.

    Have been and will continue to Pray for the Leaders of our Nation regardless of who leads or what party they belong to. I pray they will be guided to do those things that will preserve freedom and liberty. Freedom and Liberty are precious to me to assure I can worship the Heavenly Father of us all and His Son Jesus Christ.

  • A Scientist Provo, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 7:42 p.m.

    22ozn44ozglass,

    I will call your bluff and raise you a bravado.

    "how would you have responded had the First Presidency asked all Americans to pray for Romney?"

    If Romney had won, I'm certain the Church leaders would have issued a press release almost identical to the one the released when Obama won. They are discrete men up there. Even I can appreciate that.

    "I wonder how many of the Obama apologists and supporters would honestly say-"our guy lost-I am now getting behind Romney and work on solving this nations problems and I am not going be a "sore loser"? and actually do so."

    I can state without reservation that is exactly what I would have done. I commented a number of times that I thought both Romney and Obama would do a good job as POTUS. I still believe that. Our system of government has too many checks and balances, and is designed to distribute the power enough to protect against the frailties of one individual.

    I opposed Romney for two key reasons: His deceptions ("flip-flopping") and his religion, as a matter of principle.

    If he had won, I would desire his success.

  • Res Novae Ashburn, VA
    Nov. 7, 2012 7:45 p.m.

    "You go ahead and keep telling yourself that to help you feel better..."

    Do you have any evidence to the contrary? I haven't seen anything to suggest that most Americans voted against Romney for his religion rather than his policy.

  • jeanie orem, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 8:11 p.m.

    A scientist -

    There are many who made comments that they would pray for Obama as our president even though they voted for Romney. I wonder that you only choose to focus on the negative comments instead of feeling glad for those who would wish well the man you wanted.

    All groups have people who are inconsistent - there are even those who hate religion and demonstrate inconsistencies with what they believe.

  • runnerguy50 Virginia Beach, Va
    Nov. 7, 2012 8:21 p.m.

    Very sad day. Depressed to the core.

  • Gildas LOGAN, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 9:20 p.m.

    I think that the main thing people who pray, and those who don't, can do is to be better people, that we may not suffer the destruction that is staring us in the face.

  • skiboy Layton, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 9:41 p.m.

    I am not LDS and was going to post that its a great gesture to see the LDS church ask for their members to pray for our president. It was sad to once again see that the teachings of the LDS church and the venomus comments some of its members post dont align. I Pray for the president that he can find a way to bring the country together and that all the sore losers come to realize that regardless of who is president our country has been in decline for about 20 years based on our lack of education system and also because we have spent years trying to show the world we are the leaders rather than taking care of our own internal issues. May which ever god you pray and believe in give you peace and help us all find a way to get some common ground and move forward.

  • Gracie Boise, ID
    Nov. 7, 2012 9:49 p.m.

    To Rick2009: "I thought prayer needed to be followed by faith, and I have no faith in our leaders."

    Not necessarily. Even the prophet Mormon prayed for his apostate people towards the end but without faith. He still prayed, and he even led them again until they were anhiliated. Mormon 3:12--"...and my soul had been poured out in prayer unto my God all the day long for them; nevertheless, it was without faith, because of the hardness of their hearts."

  • IDSpud Eagle, ID
    Nov. 7, 2012 10:33 p.m.

    @George. The lack of compromise went, and continues to go, both ways. Neither party is very appealing at this moment, and Obama has been less than Presidential in many respects. The Democratic Senate didn't even bring Obama's budget plan to a vote. The House did offer up a budget, which the do nothing Senate sat on. Obama initially tried to compromise and talk to the other side, but only after Republicans took the House 2 years later. Consider also that Romney, aside from his own gaffs, had most of the media against him, was brutally asaulted in the primaries by his own, which only continue into the general election by the Obama election machine. Romney had 80% negative adds from the Democrates aired against him. It is no wonder he didn't survive. It's not just the GOP's downfall we witnessed, but the downfall of bi-partisan politics and statesmanship. Too many in our country seem to want someone they can adore and ogle over as President, not someone with true leadership and problem solving capabilities.

  • IDSpud Eagle, ID
    Nov. 7, 2012 11:40 p.m.

    @McBillay: The way charity and helping the poor as outlined in the scriptures (particularly the Book of Mormon) does not equate with how the government current administers to the poor. To claim the high road, assuming you represent the liberal view in what you claim against Republicans, regarding the treatment and care for the poor is misguided on your part. The current trend of expecting to receive without also seeking to keep ones dignity by, in some form or fashion, working for it, will only get worse -- unless some true reform is considered. Certainly there are some (both Democratic and Republican) who are greedy and don't want to share what they have, but I believe that most do. But it is a slippery slope to have the government dictate how much to take and redistribute -- and to do so wastefully and inefficiently.

  • IDSpud Eagle, ID
    Nov. 7, 2012 11:49 p.m.

    @ A Scientist: Ah, come on, don't generalize so much.

    Regarding the following comment you posted: "I opposed Romney for two key reasons: His deceptions ("flip-flopping") and his religion, as a matter of principle."

    This flip-flop mantra that has been plastered upon Mitt is probably deserved to a degree, but please bestow the same label upon all other candidates (Obama is one) who also flip and flop. Obama can claim he is evolving in his position on gay marriage, but if Mitt "evolves" on abortion it is called flip-flopping. Why the bias?

    I would be very intersted in knowing what about Mitt's religion would cause you, in principle, to not vote for him.

  • 5 Orem, UT
    Nov. 8, 2012 6:43 a.m.

    We should and must support the man elected by the voice of the people. I just wish I was more certain that is the case. I read the article in the washington times about the tens of thousands of our military risking their lives overseas who were prevented from voting by the ineptitude of Obama and his administration in providing the correct ballots and adequate voting locations. Because the military is overwhelmingly against Obama that may have changed some states outcome. This ineptitude is similar to his lack of leadership in mundane issues like missing 0ver 60% of his daily security briefings, and not even calling cabinet meetings for six months at a time. While praying for our leaders, let's pray for a senate to gain the fortitude to finally do something positive like following the law and finalize a budget.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Nov. 8, 2012 11:04 a.m.

    Redshirt1701
    Deep Space 9, Ut
    To "LDS Liberal" I have never wished for his failure.
    1:43 p.m. Nov. 7, 2012

    =============

    You once again NEVER answered the question Red;
    Are you going to follow the Prophet and Apostles and pray for President Obama?

    Yes or No?

    Wildcat
    O-town, UT
    5:08 p.m. Nov. 7, 2012

    Great Comment!

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 8, 2012 11:15 a.m.

    @22ozn44ozglass
    "So I ask these questions of all of the Obama apologists and supporters from the reasonable and civil ones to the rabid an irrational/contentious ones: how would you have responded had the First Presidency asked all Americans to pray for Romney? "

    If it were a statement like this one that respected Obama in defeat like it did Romney, I'd be fine with it. My concern is about what a Republican Congress left unchecked would pass, not what a church says. If Romney won but Dems still held the senate, I wouldn't be too worried about the future. If Republicans took over all of it, I'd probably be like some of the conservatives who think we're going down the drain.

    Speaking of which, to those who think that way... you still have the House, and the filibuster in the senate, Obama won't get much done.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Nov. 9, 2012 1:37 p.m.

    2ozn44ozglass - you asked "how would you have responded had the First Presidency asked all Americans to pray for Romney?"

    Is this a serious question? What kind of answer do you expect. Of course we would pray for the leaders of our nation regardless of what silly party they align themselves with. Just as we prayed for Bush when he was President, and didn't agree with every decision of that administration.

    The fact that question was even raised is a bit alarming - that people think morality and following church leaders admonishments is dependent on who won a particular election.

    Take a chill pill folks... there will be yet another election in 4 more years. Don't sacrifice your ethics based on the results of a particular election. A good vibrant debate doesn't need to mean you hate the other person.... at least I would hope not.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 9, 2012 5:16 p.m.

    Objectively speaking, there was a billion dollars and a billion prayers that did not work as designed. Keep religion out of politics. Romney was very successful in doing that intentionally. If he wore his religion on his sleeve, he would have got electoral votes only from Utah.

  • L Central, Utah
    Nov. 9, 2012 9:10 p.m.

    @
    patriot

    Cedar Hills, UT

    "I understand the First Presidency Message. They had to say it and honestly it was the right thing to say as a general statement but let's be real here for a minute ... how many latter day saints feel that praying for Barack Obama is going to change his heart? It is like praying for Korahor or Gadianton for heaven sake. I guess anything is possible with the Lord but men have their free agency and Obama has shown who he is and what he is and there is no mistaking it. Yes pray for the president and pray for your country but also remember this passage in the Book of Mormon from the prophet Mormon...."

    Sometimes people are inspired and DO change. Think of Paul for example. Indeed there are accounts of large numbers of individuals, or groups, changing. It might happen, a few prayers every night for guidance of ourselves or others might be great Everything can be possible & remember that the President alone has not been alone in some of the things you dislike. Congress has certainly been involved and about 50% of the people have been of different opinions on many issues.

  • LDSareChristians Anchorage, AK
    Nov. 10, 2012 12:52 a.m.

    To just-commenting, re Alma 1:30
    Those folks were charitable on their own free will and accord. Having charity forced on folks at threat of going to jail is not the same.
    Charity to those of my choosing and choice is blessing from God. Being taxed and having programs paid for that I don't believe in or support is simply wrong.
    If a person believes another person should have paid abortions, let that person be charitable to the other. If I desire a starving person to eat, I'll contribute to the cause. But I will not make you do that. Forcibly taking money from people in the name of taxation, and spending it on things they think are morally wrong, is, well, wrong.

  • gilham Holladay, UT
    Nov. 10, 2012 7:54 a.m.

    >LDS Liberal
    >Follow the Prophet.
    >Anything otherwise else considered Apostate.
    >You're skating on some very VERY thin ice...Brother Marksen.

    Liberal, you have got to be saying this with tongue in cheek. The PROPHET himself has said that it is up to us individually to pray and receive answers to what the general authorities say. We are not to be sheep and just follow blindly. That said, Brother Marksen has a very good point and I agree with him. I will pray for the President, pray that his heart is softened and his actions are in accordance with what God would have him do for our country. I will pray that he wakes up and recognizes that certain things are sinful practices and should be condemned not condoned. I personally feel that our top government officials are part of the Gadiaton robbers and they seek what Satan seeks, that is to enslave mankind and rob him of his God given liberty.
    I only hope that Obama seek advice from Romney on how to get us out of the financial mess we are in.

  • hubbardesquire Alabaster, Alabama
    Nov. 10, 2012 9:15 a.m.

    I support the Constitution of the United States. I do not support a wannabe dictator who is doing everything he can to destroy that Constitution.

  • xert Santa Monica, CA
    Nov. 10, 2012 12:07 p.m.

    I will pray for him. And I will also pray for angry people whose prayers are only expressions of that anger. That is not a good kind of praying and I'm afraid that that kind of praying will be in Vein.
    Get it?
    Vein.
    He's the guy that might have cost Mia Love the election.
    I snuck that one in there. Heh heh. Forgive me. I'm a Dem and rather giddy this weekend.

  • NeilT Clearfield, UT
    Nov. 11, 2012 8:53 a.m.

    Many posters on here just hate Obama, period. I didn't vote for him. I supported Romney and was dissapointed that he lost. One of the major reasons Romney lost was hispanics and others voters overwhelmingly voted Democrat. I don't blame them. The Republican party has become the anti-immigration party. The far right of the party views all immigrants as lazy, freeloaders and believe they just want gov't handouts. The far right loves to stereotype people. All dems are socialist and just want to create a welfare state so they can retain political power. I could go on. It is time to end to the tea party. They represent the extremists in the Republican party. They are nothing like Reagan who they continue to idolize. Based on some of the comments posted here there are a lot of sore loosers out there. I have never seen this country so polarized. Polarization leads to gridlock in congress. What a sad state of affairs.