Utah will not beat Arizona or Washington. No bowl this year!
whoa... lets not get ahead of ourselves. Two more wins before any bowl talk
Pinstripe Bowl... awesome opportunity!By the way that was a good win
last night but I'm afraid Washington and Arizona are going to be the show
stoppers this year.
mvcougar,Since you can see the future, tell me, will the cougars
ever again be in consideration for a major bowl after September? Inquiring minds
doubt it, but still want to know.
Way too early to start talking about bowls, but it would be amazing to see the
Utes play in Yankee stadium.Here's to hoping!
Yes, because the Utes can not finish the season against jv squads, and must
continue to play actual D1 level competition, getting bowl eligible will be
quite an accomplishment for them at this point of the season.On the
other hand, winning the wac championship for the second year in a row, then
playing a team from the mwc in a bowl, leads many to believe this is a formula
for relevence in the national landscape of college football. YAY, team!
I think you should have mentioned Utah State in the bowl mix. The WAC has only
one bowl tie with the Potato Bowl in Boise. But Utah State and Lou Tech are
headed to a showdown game for the WAC Championship and the bowl game. The the
losing team will still have a glossy record and most likely take one of those
Big East bowl slots. So you may see Utah State in Yankee Stadium.Not sure why you overlooked the Aggies. After all that potential 7th loss (if
they have 6 in the conference) that could keep Utah out of a bowl game was
administered by the Aggies.
I would consider going to the pinstripe bowl if the Utes were playing in it.
I'm a huge Cougar fan but I don't buy into the notion that Utah will
not go bowling this year. I think the Utes are much better than their record
shows so I wouldn't count them out as of yet. I believe they have finally
turned the corner and I'm rooting for them, the Aggies and my Cougars to
all go bowling this year! Go Utes! Go Aggies! And go Cougars!
motorbikeSame question for U; will the Utes ever be in contention
for a major bowl after September?btw, being "mathematically"
in contention is NOT the same as actually being a contender.Even IF
the Utes hadn't belly-flopped against Colorado last season, the Utes had
absolutely NO CHANCE of actually beating Stanford or Oregon in the PAC 12
championship game.Being in "contention" is like pretending
that a 6-win Utah basketball team could win the PAC 12 championship and then win
the NCAA tournament. Mathematically, it's possible. Realistically,
it's IMPOSSIBLE.You can continue believing that the Utes are
still in "contention" after September if it helps you sleep at night,
but that's the reality of power conference bottom dwellers - always in
"contention", but never contenders.The exact same argument
you're using for Utah, could be made for Ol' Miss, Vanderbilt, Duke,
Northwestern, Washington State, and a host of other perennial power conference
I love all the haters. The insecurity is amazing. Utah will go 6-6 and end up
who know's where. Thats the beauty of playing in a BCS conference. The bowl
possibilities are pretty endless. Unfortunately for BYU, after one loss they are
pegged to the Poinsettia or Holiday bowl. I liked it better before all the bowl
tie ins. It's too bad BYU doesn'g get more opportunities as an
Not so Rosy here. Think about it, those Zonas has benn sniffing dead roses
foever. If you do win the remaining 4 games would you go to Yankee stadium that
more likely have some spotty fans around that stadium? I didn't think you
want to play at NM near the pit? SF would be nice there next to the bay and SF
and the world champ SF Giants would be cool place to be. But against WA and AZ
will dashed your plan. Good luck at Colo like what happened last year. Good
@thebigsamoanGreat post and totally agree. I can't believe all
the BYU fans (Utah Haters) who come on here like a wet blanket. I hope all three
schools go bowling and I think they will!
I've never even heard of the Pinstripe Bowl. It would be pretty cool to go
to New York though. Even if it is cold New York at the holidays is a fun place
to be. I wouldn't get to optimistic about it though as I highly doubt utah
will beat either az or wa. But it is possible.
@DuckhunterIm otimistic, the Utes usually finish strong and yes,
Arizona and UW are pivital. I don't think you can sleep on WSU either,
especially after watching them at Stanford on Saturday. Nice win by your Cougs
The Utes will dominate their home games. Which will make everything hang on the
Colorado game again.
Isn't it interesting. The only way Utah can have a worse bowl game than
BYU is not to have one at all. At 6-6 Utah still plays against a BCS team.
Even if BYU were 11-1 and probably even if they were 12-0 (given that they play
an average 78th place team and have yet to beat a team in the top 50) they would
get Fresno, SDSU or whoever is runner up in the MWC. Independance has got them
worse competition in bowls and given the current bowl setup BYU would never
again play a BCS team in a bowl game unless of course they were to play a strong
7-8 game BCS schedule and actually win some. The problem is all the bowls that
have BCS teams are slotted to specific conferences so there are few openings
available and essentially none against BCS teams let alone against teams in the
top 30 or 25. Sure Utah may not make a bowl, going to one is better than not
going for the fans. But going to one nobody cares about does nothing for a
program and that's BYU's fate as an independant.
First of all, let's not count Utah out of a bowl game. They could go.CRB,Your logic makes no sense. You say that a 12-0 BYU
would play in the Poinsettia Bowl because they have yet to beat a team in the
top 50. Huh? If BYU were undefeated, they would have beaten 2 opponents in the
top 10 (which, last I checked, is in the top 50). An undefeated BYU would have
played in a BCS bowl game. BYU is a lot better than their record, with all
their losses being realistically possible wins if Riley Nelson could throw the
ball well.All in all, does it matter what bowl you go to if
you're not playing for the national championship? Until we have a playoff,
all other bowls are meaningless in the long run.
I think CRB meant with the 12-0 comment that even when non bcs teams go
undefeated, sometimes it is up to the other top 8-10 teams records and how they
do if that team will actually go to a bcs bowl game, but I can see how that
would go misinterpreted. It's frustrating because, yeah, I'm a Utah
fan but it's nice to see other state of Utah teams do well too so when a
team is pinned to just a couple of bowls after one loss, it gets rid of the
excitement and the fun of where they will go because the system has made it so
predictable. Hopefully the play off system gets rid of the political bcs crap
and just lets everyone play. Yeah, I like the Pac 12, sure, but I would love to
see everyone on an equal playing field for the national championship and we all
know it's not even close.
CRB"At 6-6 Utah still plays against a BCS team."A bcs team that's currently 3-4, with 4 straight losses - sound
familiar?It's laughable how Utah fans like to throw out the
"bcs" label whenever they need to validate a Utah opponent.btw, the Baylor team that CBS is "projecting" to meet Utah in the
Pinstripe Bowl, plays at #12 Oklahoma, then finishes at home against #2 Kansas
State, #18 Texas Tech and #24 Oklahoma State. Kinda makes you wonder what the
college football "experts" at CBS are smoking.
CRB"Sure Utah may not make a bowl, going to one is better than
not going for the fans. But going to one nobody cares about does nothing for a
program..."LOL!You're too funny for words.I'd be willing to bet the ranch that, without looking it up, you
couldn't name the two teams that played in the Pinstripe Bowl last season,
let alone, know who won the game.The vast majority of fans
couldn't even tell you which teams played in each of the bcs bowls, let
alone who won, proving that your minor bowl "relevance" is nothing but a
bunch of hot air.
Good luck, but I don't think Utah will beat Washington or Arizona. And if
you do, an invite to the Pinstripe bowl will be because U were not good enough
to get invited to the New Mexico Bowl. I wouldn't take a lot of pride in
that. Time to admit it hasn't been a good year for the Utes. Remember all
the comments U made about the Cougs going to the New Mexico bowl two years ago,
and now to think U are not good enough to get there. Face it - it's been a
tough year.As for the Cougs, it's also been a down year, but to
think we lost 3 games by 7 points makes it feel a little better. Can U please get over BYUs schedule. Holmoe said it would be two challenging
years. This years schedule was great, except for November. Next years schedule
could be too challenging. Definitely will surpass the Utes SofS.
*raises hand*Rutgers(7-4) played Iowa State(6-5) in the 2011
Pinstripe Bowl.truth in advertising - I did have to look it up
because I couldn't have cared less about actually watching the game.
"Spokane UteSpokane, WAI love all the haters. The insecurity is
amazing. Utah will go 6-6 and end up who know's where. Thats the beauty of
playing in a BCS conference. The bowl possibilities are pretty endless.
Unfortunately for BYU, after one loss they are pegged to the Poinsettia or
Holiday bowl. I liked it better before all the bowl tie ins. It's too bad
BYU doesn'g get more opportunities as an independent."As
long as BYU remains a church run institution, they are not going to end up in a
BCS conference so we can put that talk to bed. I do however think
that they can fix most of their problems by winning. In 1996 they were (13-1)
playing much less of a schedule than they did this current season. They were
slated for whatever bowl the WAC had a tie in with but, played in the Cotton
Bowl. The bottom line is they need to win.
Not sure why people are being rude or condescending in here. Really there is no
reason to be. The point that I got from Jealous U was that these bowl games
really don't have a relevance to anyone but each teams fans. That's
what makes the basketball tournament so fun in march, people set up their
brackets and root for teams that aren't even their teams. Hopefully we can
see this eventually.....
Oh the bitterness!!I think for those of us interested more in being
fair and open minded, if Utah becomes bowl eligible, they will have earned it.
U went from a high of beating BYU, through the valley of the shadow of death,
and may or may not be on the plains of despair. BYU started too
slow, but showed really well at Notre Dame and finally put it all together
against a "BCS" team with a poor defense and a great offense. U
remember Georgia Tech, don't you? Now a game against SJSU (what's
BYU's all-time record against SJSU? I don't think a Ute has reminded
us of that in, oh, 5 minutes), and a couple of cupcakes, and we get the #2 team
from the MWC. There were a whole lotta seasons when Utah
wasn't even the #2 team in the MWC. With a lucky bounce, that COULD be
Boise. Too bad they aren't "BCS."
I liked it much better when the bowl games were limited to the top 20 or so
teams and a bowl invitation let alone win meant something. A bowl
was great but now...pinstripe, dustbowl, other awful named and meaningless
bowls...really?Utah highschools should do away with the state games
and get involved inthanksgiving point bowlgoshen bowlbeaver
bowlgusher bowlheber bowlhurricane bowltremonton bowland the grandaddy of them all the ....dead sea scroll bowl
Will someone please set the record straight. Didn't Utah already play in
their bowl game and win it back on September 15th? I'm certain I read that
The Pin Stripe bowl pays out $1.8 mill, while the Poinsettia bowl pays out $.5.
BYU get's hosed in the bowl tie in deal, they really need to join a BCS
@ Whoa Nellie"Will someone please set the record straight.
Didn't Utah already play in their bowl game and win it back on September
15th? I'm certain I read that somewhere".Didn't BYU
win their bowl game back on October 5th? I'm sure I read that somewhere!
I would love to see the UTES in a bowl but realistically I do not see that
happening now. Arizona is a good team this year. Yes the Utes can beat them but
I give it a 30% chance. As for Washington again the Utes can beat them but at
UW it is going to be much harder. Again 30% chance. This of course
is if they win against Washington St and Colorado. WSU is a sleeper with a
chance to really light it up. They have not done that too much but could. I
give the Utes a 75% chance with them. As for Colorado well they have won one
game but they are not good. 95% chance there (and I am being nice to
Colorado)Given all the odds I think there is maybe a 10-20% chance
that Utah wins 3 of the last 4 games. But I like the odds and hope they beat the
odds and get into a bowl regardless of which one.
CougFaninTXThe Pinstripe Bowl's payout is significantly higher
than the New Mexico bowl, so it would actually be an upgrade.
Two For Flinching - "The Pinstripe Bowl's payout is significantly
higher than the New Mexico bowl, so it would actually be an upgrade."Truthfully, the payout is meaningless, until the U or Y start giving me
some of the money. Do you get a portion of the payout? Will U get cheaper
tickets next year if the U goes to a higher payout bowl? The payout should
matter to the university, but the average fan doesn't really care.Let's face it there are about 8 bowls with some prestige. If U or Y get
there, that's a good thing. U've been there twice. BYU has been
there once (Cotton Bowl). After that it's all about location.For example, I'd much rather go to Dallas (Armed Force Bowl)than to El
Paso (Sun Bowl). I'd rather go to San Diego (already got my air tickets)
than Albuquerque. NYC would be a cool place to go, but not this week. Good
luck against AZ and WA.
As always, the kids on the hill consider bowl payout to be the end-all-be-all of
bowl prestige, when, in fact, not a single one of them even watched the
Pinstripe Bowl last year, and, NONE of them will be watching this year, if Utah
isn't playing in the bowl.
One advantage of going to a bowl game (any bowl game) that fans sometimes
overlook is the extra weeks of practice that can benefit a team going into next
Don't forget Ohio St & Penn St are ineligible.Duke is bowl
eligible... what a nutty season.I'm sticking to my prediction
that it'll be Oregon v Alabama in the BCS title game.
Sometimes us fans overlook one advantage accruing from a team going to a bowl
game (any bowl game). That is the extra weeks of practice which benefits the
team going into the following season.
BYU's bowl may "only" pay half a million, but who do they have to
share the money with?Oh. Right. Nobody.Whereas the
Utes have to share the money from the Bowl with the rest of the conference. Of
course, they also get a share of the money from the Rose Bowl and/or any other
bowl a Pac-12 team plays in. So they are in good position even if they
don't make a bowl.But had BYU stayed in the MWC, they would
stand to take home less money than they are by being independent. Right?
I'm not sure arguing between the Yankee Stadium bowl and the San Diego
Credit Union Lenders and Borrowers bowl is an argument that can be won or
lost.Lets face it, Utah is in another unscheduled rebuilding year.
We're not a program and need to recruit better to become relevant.BYU? No conference...no schedule strength. Strange dynamics with coaches,
assistants and QB. I think Utahs issues are repairable. Not sure
BYU's issues are...but I do know that any bowl played before New Years Eve
is pretty meaningless...no bragging rights here...
@ NevadaCoug 6:36 p.m. Oct. 29, 2012Is that because the y is
prideful & greedy or sharing is socialism?
@CougFaninTXYou wrote: "Next years (BYU) schedule could be too
challenging. Definitely will surpass the Utes SofS."Really? Now
don't get me wrong, I know BYU has a great looking schedule lined up, but
let's not get ahead of ourselves.Utah Opponents and their
current Sagarin ratings which is the best thing we currently have to go on:#173 Weber State#24 USU#22 @BYU#19 @Arizona#20 ASU#14 @USC#27 UCLA#6 @Oregon#49
Washington#13 @Stanford#10 OSU#155 ColoradoTake
a close look at that ... 9 of 12 opponents are currently rated 27th or better.
Now consider that the toughest aspect of a football schedule - road games -
produces an average rating of 15. Your turn.
"most coaches aspire to bigger jobs with better contracts and usually
don’t turn down chances to work in bigger conferences"You
mean like coach John L Smith....who jumped from the Aggies...to Louisville....to
Michigan State.....to bankruptcy....to Weber State....and then to Arkansas?
@CougFaninTXI decided to help you out... call me curious. Like I
said, I know BYU has a good schedule next year and I thought I ought to look at
the numbers for myself.So here they are ... current Sagarin ratings
for every BYU opponent on next years schedule:#18 Texas#26
Boise State #24 @Utah State #81 Georgia Tech #98
@Houston #31 @Wisconsin #2 @Notre Dame #169 @Hawaii
#44 Utah#97 Middle Tennessee State#87 @Washington StateThe numbers average out to be 61.5 rating and this is prior to BYU
scheduling a 12th opponent which we all know will be a patsy at this point.Utah's average Sagarin rating for all opponents is 44.3Now, as I mentioned previously, road games are weighted much heavier than
road games. We already know Utah's road opponents average just under 15.
The average Sagarin of BYU's road teams next year?? 68.5Safe to
say Utah's SOS will be well higher than BYU's next year. Why does this
matter? It doesn't. I simply can't stand when people make ridiculous
comments as if they're fact and don't back them up.
The Participation Trophy Generation! Everyone wins! No one loses! All who
participate get a bowl game! We are all winners! Nevermind both BYU and Utah
lost all their meaningful games.
Why would I spend the money to go to either bowl game....?
Bowl payout IS the end-all-be-all of bowl prestige.More bowl dollars
means better sponsorships because more people watch the game. Period. You guys
can argue against it until you are blue in the face, but it doesn't change
What is interesting about this article is that BYU must win 1 of the following
games to even be considered for a bowl game: 1-7 Idaho or 1-7 New Mexico State.
Is this truely the level to which BYU football has now sunk to. At this time of
year, you should not be playing these types of teams. Who puts together this
schedule? Oh, I forgot, this is what independence brings to a once storied
program. Many others have already pointed this out that after September, the
Cougars are no longer relevant. I also learned today that the San Jose State
game was moved from a 1:00pm prime-time slot to a 7:30pm PST slot in November.
Does this give you a hint of how this program is viewed?
As USU wins the next three games it will move into the top 25 and be higher
ranked than both the y and U. What a crazy wonderful year.
The DeuceEither you've been on another planet for the last two
years or you're simply throwing out hyperbole. EVERYONE knows that the only
reason Idaho and NM St have been on BYU's schedule the last couple of years
is because of the short-term scheduling crunch Holmoe faced when BYU moved to
Independence. Utah fans who continue to harp on this are either completely
clueless or are simply rehashing the same old tired arguments because they have
NOTHING else to whine about.btw, #36 San Jose State is ranked HIGHER
in Sagarin than the mighty weak #44 Utes, but not as high as the mighty #22
Cougars!Not surprising since the Utes are 0-1 in the WAC.Eventually, it will finally dawn on the kids on the hill that U don't get
a trophy for being a PAC 12 bottom dweller.
RE: motorbikeUsually trolls just grate on my nerves, but you make an
excellent point, Touché. Ultimately SOS and bowl status only matter if you
win games. Hopefully next year both the Cougs and Utes can do so.
Two For Flinching"Bowl payout IS the end-all-be-all of bowl
prestige."Don't kid yourself; there's absolutely NO
PRESTIGE playing in ANY of the minor bowls. If you think that the rest of the
country is going to care about a 6-6 Utah team playing another 6-6 team in
whatever bowl, you're only deluding yourself.
sports authority,While you may be correct in stating the Utes would
not have had a chance at beating either Stanford or Oregon in last year's
PAC12 championship game, that's why the games are played to find out on the
field.But, here's something that has no arguement,
mathmatically, realistically or any other way one would want to look at it, BYU
had no chance of even playing in the PAC12 championship game. Or any other
league championship game, for that matter.
TheNunIf being "mathematically" in the PAC 12 championship
hunt helps U sleep at night, good for U; just realize that you're no closer
to actually winning a PAC 12 championship than Arizona, which has been
"mathematically" in the PAC conference championship hunt for over 30
years, with still no Rose Bowl to show for it.The Utes only won 2
WAC championships in 38 years, so winning conference championships isn't
exactly something U do anyway.
Two For FlinchingThings must be getting really desperate for the
Utes to beating their chests about the "prestige" of playing in a bowl U
haven't even qualified for. The fact that the Utes are even in the bowl
discussion this season is proof of just how watered-down and meaningless the
bowls have become.
Solomon LeviThere are levels of prestige in the minor bowls. The
Outback bowl is not the same as the International Bowl. However, it
doesn't matter what the "country" things about whatever bowl Utah
(hopefully) goes to because the fact is that is gives the team extra practices,
national exposure, and a chance to play in front of potential recruits who may
not know what Utah is all about.
Someone mentioned that Utah has to share their bowl money while BYU gets to keep
it all. While that IS true, think of who will have to share their bowl money
with US? Oregon, Stanfod, probably Oregon St, ASU......
cedarcityuteThere's no question that Utah will be making far
more in television and bowl revenue than BYU. The real issues for Utah are
these:First of all, BYU is no longer your primary competitor.Second, the advantages of having more revenue lies in being able to
build better facilities. Since BYU already has great facilities, it's going
to take the Utes many years just to match the facilities BYU already enjoys.Third, since Utah's chief competitors are the other members of the
PAC 12 and most of them already have superior facilities and are constantly
improving those facilities, the Utes are playing a perpetual game of catch up
that they can never win.Of course you can claim that money
isn't the only factor in being competitive, which is true, but using that
argument also negates the more money argument that Utah fans have been
proclaiming was going to make Utah so superior that BYU would never be able to
compete with the Utes again.Basically, ALL of the arrogant "bcs
conference" superiority arguments that Utah fans have been using lately are
completely invalidated by Utah's recent football success.
slywalkerNews flash, no one has accepted any bowl invitations, since
none have been issued. New to this thing they call college football?
Spokane UteNews flash - Skywalker didn't say anything about
bowl invitations, so if you're going to whine, at least try to stay on
topic.Addressing your whine - Most fans at least wait until their
team has a reasonable assurance of qualifying for a bowl before spouting off
about bowl invitations, so Sorensen is simply grasping at straws in reporting
that CBS's "predictions" are anything more than wishful thinking on
the part of a Ute homer.
SportfanNo he said "Things must be getting really desperate for
the Utes to beating their chests about the "prestige" of playing in a
bowl U haven't even qualified for." Try reading the thread before
calling some one out. Which Utah fan is beating on their chest? No one's
been invited to any bowl BYU Homer.
Wiscougarfan ..."Ultimately SOS and bowl status only matter if
you win games."I could not agree with you more. Strength of
schedule, etc, is great and all, but I'll be the first to admit that Utah
AND BYU will both have a tough mountain to climb next year. Strength of schedule
really only matters if you win your games.
Spokane UteTwo words: reading comprehensionThe entire
thread is filled with Utah fans boasting about the money and "prestige"
of playing in the Pinstripe Bowl - a bowl, which you correctly pointed out, the
Utes haven't even been invited to. Why would Utah fans even be
talking about the Pinstripe Bowl if they weren't wishfully hoping that the
Utes would actually be able to accept an invitation to the bowl if it were
offered?Regardless, it's ridiculous for a team with only 3 wins
to even be talking about bowl possibilities.
SportsFanRegardless, it's ridiculous for a team with only 3
wins to even be talking about bowl possibilities.-----------True. It is as ridiculous as celebrating for a 1-0 team:"People danced in the streets. They hugged perfect strangers. They lit
off fireworks."Too early for bowl talk. Bring on WSU.
@ SportsfanOne word: "Projections". Google it.
Gary is not going anywhere. He wants to coach his kids, plus Cal is not going to
cut Tedford loose when they owe him that kind of scratch. That's amost 7
million they would owe him were they to fire him...That is a lot of scratch.READ IT HERE: GARY ANDERSEN IS NOT GOING ANWHERE!!!!
@big blueNo one, including you, knows if Anderson will go somewhere
else or not. That is just wishful thinking on your part. I'm sure you would
stay in your job for less pay and less prestige as well if something much more
lucrative with higher upside came along. Think about what you are saying here.
Uteology"True. It is as ridiculous as celebrating for a 1-0
team: People danced in the streets. They hugged perfect strangers. They lit off
fireworks."LOL at your hyperbole and inconsistency.BYU had just beaten the #3 team in country in a nationally televised game
played in the most magnificent stadium ever built for football. BYU fans
weren't celebrating 1-0, they were celebrating a great win.Compare that to Utah fans rushing the field THREE times for barely beating an
unranked, irrelevant, "former" rival.-------Spokane FanSince when do you beat your chest about a bowl
"projection" when your team still has to win three of its final four
games just to qualify for a bowl?
@TrueBlueBYU had just beaten the #3 team in country in a nationally
televised game played in the most magnificent stadium ever built for football.
BYU fans weren't celebrating 1-0, they were celebrating a great win.----------Great win? Since when do great wins happen in
week one that lead to "fireworks" and "dancing in the street"?
Can you name me another instance? Ever? Did Appalachian State fans
when they won at #5 Michigan in 2007? Sorry, great wins resulting in
"airport celebrations" only occur in postseason games.
As a Philadelphian, I would DEFINITELY go see the Utes should they wind up in
the Pinstripe Bowl. I'd even make the flight down to Florida should they
wind up there. More Utah Football games on the East Coast please!Go
TrueBlueWhen did I beat my chest? It's a projection; nothing
more, nothing less. A lot of work to be done before Utah can even think about
going bowling. Are you trying to start an arguement for the sake of argueing?
Appears that way.
CougFaninTX:"Next years schedule could be too challenging.
Definitely will surpass the Utes SofS."Not "defnitely"!
Next year, Utah plays @ USC, @ Oregon, and @ Stanford. We'll also play
Oregon St. again -- who will be returning both Mannion and Katz-- as well as
playing UCLA and @ Arizona, who are both currently ranked.
CougFaninTX:"...I don't think Utah will beat Washington or
Arizona...an invite to the Pinstripe bowl will be because U were not good enough
to get invited to the New Mexico Bowl. I wouldn't take a lot of pride in
that."FYI -- 2011 per-team bowl payouts:Poinsettia:
$500KNew Mexico: $750KPinstripe: $1.8MSun: $2M.If
Utah gets selected to play in the Pinstripe Bowl, it wouldn't be because we
weren't good enough to get into the New Mexico Bowl. It would be because
we weren't good enough to get back to the Sun Bowl. Fail on your part.
SportsFan:"Why would Utah fans even be talking about the
Pinstripe Bowl if they weren't wishfully hoping that the Utes would
actually be able to accept an invitation..."The articles
said:"Even before Utah’s convincing 49-27 victory over Cal
Saturday night, CBSsports.com had the Utes playing in a bowl game...So what bowl
did CBS have Utah going to? It must have been the Kraft Hunger Bowl in San
Francisco or the New Mexico Bowl in Albuquerque, which get the sixth and seventh
picks from the Pac-12, right?...Actually it’s the Pinstripe Bowl, which is
played Dec. 29 in New York’s Yankee Stadium."You wanna
know why Ute fans would be talking about the Pinstripe Bowl? It's because
CBSsports -- not Utah fans -- brought it up. THIS is what initiated the
discussion. The REAL question is why would Y fans be discussing BCS bowls and
national championships prior to the season's opening kickoff?
navel vet"You wanna know why Ute fans would be talking about the
Pinstripe Bowl? It's because CBSsports -- not Utah fans -- brought it up.
THIS is what initiated the discussion. The REAL question is why would Y fans be
discussing BCS bowls and national championships prior to the season's
opening kickoff?"Bowl payout has NOTHING to do with quality of
team. Conference bowl affiliations establish a pecking order for
bowls to select bowl eligible teams, and bowls couldn't care less which
team is "better", the ONLY thing bowls care about is which team is more
marketable and which team will bring more fans to the game.There's not a bowl in the country that wouldn't pick an unranked 7-5
Notre Dame over a ranked 12-0 New Mexico in a heartbeat.As far as
fans discussing BCS bowls and national championships, EVERY fan base discusses
best case scenarios for their team prior to the season, this is nothing unique
to BYU fans.That's a far cry from fans of a team that's on
the brink of not even qualifying for a bowl, discussing the "prestige"
of playing in any particular bowl.
navel vet"Next year, Utah plays @ USC, @ Oregon, and @ Stanford.
We'll also play Oregon St. again -- who will be returning both Mannion and
Katz-- as well as playing UCLA and @ Arizona, who are both currently
ranked."In other words, the Utes face the very real possibility
of not qualifying for a bowl in back-to-back seasons. The whining and wailing
and gnashing of teeth will be heard all the way to Philly. We'll have to
issue a tornado warning on the hill because of the spin. Enjoy!
Rockwell:"Conference bowl affiliations establish a pecking order
for bowls to select bowl eligible teams, and bowls couldn't care less which
team is 'better', the ONLY thing bowls care about is which team is
more marketable and which team will bring more fans to the game...There's
not a bowl in the country that wouldn't pick an unranked 7-5 Notre Dame
over a ranked 12-0 New Mexico in a heartbeat."There has never
been a 12-0 ranked UNM team, so that can't be known. What CAN be known,
however, is that a 12-0 MWC team HAD been selected over a 7-5 Notre Dame team.
In 2010, a 12-0 MWC team (TCU) was selected ahead of a 7-5 Notre Dame team for
the Rose Bowl. So it looks like the "tornado warning" due to
"spin" is down there in Baltimore. FAIL!"Bowl payout
has NOTHING to do with quality of team."It has a LOT to do with
it, but you wouldn't know since the Y had played in only ONE multi-million
bowl game: The '97 Cotton. And which cougar team played in THAT bowl
game? A 6-6 one?