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Utah lawmakers balking at governor's alcohol commission nominee

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  • What in Tucket? Provo, UT
    Sept. 19, 2012 11:23 a.m.

    Keep this in mind about alcohol: it is the most dangerous drug legal or not. Worse than heroin, cocaine, etc. It causes thousands of deaths of non drinkers of all ages each year in this country. Don't overexert yourselves to make it more easily available.

  • Jones Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 19, 2012 11:29 a.m.

    But I guess it's not a problem for Greg Hughes to be on the UTA board.

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    Sept. 19, 2012 11:55 a.m.

    What in Tucket? said: "Keep this in mind about alcohol: it is the most dangerous drug legal or not. Worse than heroin, cocaine, etc. It causes thousands of deaths of non drinkers of all ages each year in this country. Don't overexert yourselves to make it more easily available."

    ...or is it fats and sugars that kill and handicap far more Americans than alcohol, but is morally acceptable by the dominate religion?

    Does Valentine just here the word Alcohol and call the D-News?

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    Sept. 19, 2012 12:02 p.m.

    Francine Giani is a great woman. She has more ethical standards than the entire Legislature put together. Valentine & Co. want her out because she refused to back down & bend to the Good Ole Boys. This was caught on tape, no less, & showed the lawmakers as the fools & bullies that they are. They have long memories & it's payback time. Biz as usual again at the DABC.

  • sparticus1701 OREM, UT
    Sept. 19, 2012 12:34 p.m.

    Fats and sugars in excess hurt the individual, but you'd be hard pressed to show how it harms others. If you're going to try to take digs at the 'dominate' (sic) religion, you should know that the Church advocates healthy living and moderation in food choices.

    Alcohol however never restricts its harm to the individual; it affects the surrounding family, the innocent drivers nearby and anyone else within the reach of its repugnant smell. Why should the government try to expand such suffering by making alcohol more available to its users?

  • Claudio Springville, Ut
    Sept. 19, 2012 1:03 p.m.

    Sparticus, I would definitely say obesity affects people other than the individual. It leads to diabetes (with effects including blindness, amputations, etc.), heart disease, etc. Who's paying for all the treatment costs? Here's a clue: it ain't the individual. Do you think those diseases and deaths don't impact families, neighbors, etc.? Is alcohol bad, you bet. But to say it's less damaging than fats and sugars leads to a pretty interesting debate that you certainly can't win by default.

    Also, I don't know HVH, but I would assume he was referring to the individuals of the dominant religion, not the doctrine. We all know that if you sit in any sacrament meeting up and down the Wasatch Front, you're going to see a number of those who clearly enjoy their fats and sugars, and usually quite a few on the stand will be among them. No one's perfect, but it definitely goes to the point of needing to "cast out the beam in thy own eye."

  • Independent Thinker West Jordan, UT
    Sept. 19, 2012 1:21 p.m.

    Jones, Salt Lake City, UT wrote:
    "But I guess it's not a problem for Greg Hughes to be on the UTA board."

    Right on target, Jones! The legislature won't even abide by the adopted Utah State Code regulations regarding that appointment. Saying Utah state legislators are hypocritical is an understatement. They are downright arrogant and offensive in applying their oath of office.

  • Conner Johnson
    Sept. 19, 2012 1:34 p.m.

    A 12 oz. can of Beer, and a 12 oz. can of Coca-Cola seem pretty close to the same thing. Beer=Alcohol while Coca-Cola=Caffeine. They are both somewhat bad for you. I see people go for a Coca-Cola first thing in the morning, and have six down by dinner time. Maybe we should adopt similar laws, where we don't need state run liquor stores, and instead have designated areas inside the grocery stores. No Zion wall needed, of course.

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    Sept. 19, 2012 2:16 p.m.

    Thank you, Claudio I believe in moderation in all things.
    Action achieves strength; moderation eventuates in charm.

  • Jimmer77 Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 20, 2012 9:33 a.m.

    Why do we need an Alcohol Commission?