I's astounded that the Utah board of education had some foresight and
understanding of the implications of what this SBAC and its core program is all
about, socialized eduction under the control of government and business.Now if we can convince this same board of education to give up Utah
government and business from controlling education and our schools and our
money. They finally admitted the error of government interference, now they just
need to practice what they preach for our Utah schools. Education is
part of our free will and freedom of choice and freedom of speech which has been
lost far too long and has devastated our population so bad they don't know
how to be free and self sufficient, so they are reattaching the umbilical cord
to their parents hive.
Instead of sharing costs and sharing ideas with other states we will go it
alone. I would really like to know what the price tag for this move will be.
This was done simply to satisfy the paranoia of some of our extremists. Maybe
we should just simplify this process and have the Eagle Forum design the
assessments, since they will ultimately have to approve them.We
complain because our kids don't stack up against the rest of the world in
educational testing, but we are going to control the curriculum and the testing
so tightly that our students will not even be exposed to the same things that
students in other countries will be exposed to, but we will expect them to score
as high as other students. Makes perfect sense to me.
A short-sighted move based on irrational fears. Way to go, Utah.
Yep, Utah is out of the SBAC as soon as we get federal permission to exit since
that's one of the several requirements to leave. Don't worry though,
the feds aren't trying to take over education, unless you actually believe
what Arne Duncan, secretary of education actually says about the issue. Check it
out at Utahns Against Common Core's website.
50% of the comments here so far are sensible.The other 50% are
spouting Eagle Forum conspiracy nonsense.In the meantime, it's
the children of Utah who will lose.
again we have silly and ignorant comments from left, teaching hate for
particular group and people on the right, telling us we the people are
incompetent fools,believing in silly nonsense like the magic
elixir for education a some faceless federal bureaucrat thousands of miles
making up an arbitrary standard, which will have federal dollars
attached to it sooner if not later.And we also we have the extreme
left again telling us we the parents and people of a local community can not
educate our kids competently, that we must be beholden to said nameless faceless
federal bureaucrat, and give up all control to them and their magic
standards.And that doing will solve all problems in world and create
a magical educational paradise.So why hasn't the current
leftest union control of education, for the last 50 years, fixed a darn thing
yet, but made things only worse?
I am very grateful that we have a school board that is humble enough to realize
an error and fix it. Kudos to the school board for pulling us out of the
bureaucratic disaster of the SBAC/Dept. of Ed's stranglehold that
consortium membership would require. Pray they find a truly independent and
legitimate way to test our students that circumvents the data-collection agenda
(without parental consent, and including personally identifiable information
that is non academic) that Joanne Weiss, Arne Duncan, Obama and others are
American education is the worlds biggest scam.Congratulations to
Utah.Half of our doctors, and technical engineers, are from other
countries. You've got to wonder how effective the standardized testing,
and extravagant funding has been.Way to go Utah. Let's just
the truth,Sorry not a liberal, and I guess from your post its ok if
you are on the far right to trash those who are not. The paranoia about testing
associated with the common core is just that, paranoia. This is a chance to get
everyone on the same page which is good for kids. I am a republican
member of that so called leftist union. For years we have asked the far right
state legislature to quit trying to come up with a magic solution, and every few
years they come up with more magic one of the most recent examples Singapore
math. Don't blame the teachers association for these efforts at magic,
blame those who are in control, the state legislature. For the
first time in twenty five years we have a legislator in Senator Osmond who is
willing to talk to teachers about legislation that affects education, what a
novel concept, I know. There was a very good piece of legislation that came
from this effort. This legislation will create better teacher evaluation and
result in the termination of teachers not doing the job, and yes this was done
with UEA's help.
Oak, would you please provide excerpts of the legal agreement proving that the
federal government must give Utah permission to leave SBAC? I can't seem to
find the language in the agreement that gives credibility to your claims.
Great, now Utah has zero say in how the test is designed. Let's see, we
have 43 states working on tests with collective representation. Utah now fails
to send any representatives to the republic of which Utah was a charter member.
Will Utah find a private company that creates tests more consistently
aligned with core standards? Follow the dollars, folks. Just wait until you
see whose hands get into the money pot for test creation in Utah. I would bet
my house and everything I own that we'll be able to track the money to
legislators and/or their donors. This is not a good decision for children
Since Utah will no longer be giving the same assessment as 43 other states, we
will have no accurate measure to compare how our children are doing as compared
to children in other states. I'm not surprised though. Utah will fare
worse than other states since our legislature is not committed to funding
education adequately. With our own assessment, the state can manipulate the
statistics to show that our children are performing better than they actually
are and the legislature can continue in its efforts to undermine (underfund)
public education. ...and of course, this state government is rife
with crony capitalism, so by going it alone, somebody in the legislature (or a
family member or friend) will stand to make a lot of money in duplicating
services (writing our own test). It is a lot cheaper to pool our limited
resources with other states, but writing our own test will cost millions of
extra dollars that our students will have to give up so a company can profit.
This is the corrupt world we live in and it won't change until the voters
wake up and boot these profiteers from public office.
Winglish,How have these tests made better learners of our children,
and better teaching of teachers?Over the past thirty years,
I've asked hundreds of education professionals, and not one has ever given
me a positive for it, other then the much needed accountability.Who
cares how the tests are designed?
Worf,The simple answer to your question is exactly how you answered it:
Accountability. There are some other benefits to standardized tests, however.
The first and foremost benefit in my mind is that these tests give teachers
immediate access to individualized data for every student they teach. Many
teachers don't know how to look at data to improve their teaching. I
do.I look at my incoming students' test scores and break the scores
down by category. I know my students' strengths and weaknesses in reading
and writing before they step into my classroom to begin the year. I know which
areas of language arts need to be my greatest focus. The data tells me which
students need to be remediated on any given skill set. I can use the test data
to plan individualized interventions for any specific language skill that is not
up to par. Why do I care how the test is designed? Because standardized
data shows me how my students compare nationally. That feedback is crucial to my
self-improvement. If my students are scoring lower than their counterparts
around the country, I seek ways to improve my instruction in that area.
"According to officials, the state will soon issue a request for proposals
from companies... to provide assessments for mathematics and English language
arts."And why do we have to pay another company to make an
assessment? Are we not capable of doing this ourselves?If a
'company' is involved, then so is someone making profit. I favor
capitalism and argue it frequently, but government and business should never mix
(despite how married they are in this country today) Tax dollars shouldn't
pay for profits, plain and simple.
Wonderful. Now the Utah education establishment has made our test scores
incompatible with scores from around the country. What does the BOE know that
you don't? Perhaps it is that when compared to peers around the country on
demographically adjusted cohorts, that Utah schools are below average
performers. Look at the data folks. You may be surprised.
Winglish,Accountability? Our leaders failed math. Inability to
balance the checkbook has led to a sixteen trillion dollar debt, and our
children are held accountable to that? How many states, or cities, are in a
deficit?An example needs to be set if our children are to be held
accountable. Since when are children held accountable to the
employee of the people? These tests do not increase learning, but gives
authority to these bureaucrats.There is danger whenever a government
runs education. As a famous German leader once said:Let me run
education for eight years, and I'll control their beliefs.
Common Core is not “state-led,” never piloted, undermines choice,
threatens student/family privacy, and is ”an inappropriate overreach to
standardize and control the education of our children so they will
conform…” Utahn's had better wake up to the real Common Core
and what it means to our children and grandchildren. There is a reason they want
our 4 year olds.. and it is not to save money. Hitler grabbed the youth of
Germany for the same reasons and made into little machines who would tattletale
on their parents, or turn them in for not following the Fuher! I have written to
both of my Senators and asked them to please remove Common Core completely from