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  • JNA Layton, UT
    July 12, 2012 8:34 p.m.

    Let the "slamming" begin!

  • Caprice PROVIDENCE, UT
    July 12, 2012 8:41 p.m.

    Thank you for the fabulous in-depth article regarding the many aspects of the Mormon Church. It covered so many issues and give excellent answers for those with questions. I am in awe of the meticulous order, as well as the beauty of the brilliance of the philosophy within this great church, and I am inspired by this lovely article. What a remarkable organization, truly founded on sound principles.

  • no fit in SG St.George, Utah
    July 12, 2012 8:42 p.m.

    Lots and lots of wealthy Mormons out there. This scrutiny about the LDS Church and the latest news/scrutiny about Mitt Romney must be extremely uncomfortable for all of them.

  • 1aggie SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    July 12, 2012 9:03 p.m.

    "Today, the church's business assets support the church's mission and principles by serving as a rainy day fund," the statement says. "Agricultural holdings now operated as for-profit enterprises can be converted into welfare farms in the event of a global food crisis.

    Huh? There is not currently a "global food crisis"? According to the World Bank, more than 17 million people are facing possible starvation in West Africa’s Sahel region, the zone skirting the southern portion of the Sahara Desert. Sounds like a rainy day to me.

  • LVIS Salt Lake City, UT
    July 12, 2012 9:15 p.m.

    no fit in SG

    I doubt it. But, you keep on thinking that way.

  • SP Salt Lake City, UT
    July 12, 2012 10:53 p.m.

    Great response.

    One point that wasn't mentioned was the City Creek mall. Previous Deseret News articles have pointed out that mall was financed 100% from other real estate ventures of the church. No tithing money was used in that development.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    July 13, 2012 6:04 a.m.

    Re: no fit in SG St.George, Utah
    "This scrutiny about the LDS Church and the latest news/scrutiny about Mitt Romney must be extremely uncomfortable for all of them."

    Yes, the part the drives me nuts is the way they waste money on welfare programs to help the less fortunate. (Just a little sarcasm for those looking to fuel their fires of bigotry.)

  • BYUalum South Jordan, UT
    July 13, 2012 8:21 a.m.

    I am sure that Mitt Romney will handle the spotlight just fine.

    What a great principled representative for the Mormon Church and for this country. Just what we need!

  • NedGrimley Brigham City, UT
    July 13, 2012 8:54 a.m.

    When did success and wealth become bad? This country used to be based upon lifting yourself up by the bootstraps and getting somewhere. Individuals were encouraged to excel. Businesses were praised for growth and success. And the successful have always carried far more than their fair share. Now, those who have accomplished something with their lives and their businesses are maligned and scoffed at. While those who do not wish to put forth the effort, because they are "entitled" to the earnings of the successful, whine and cry about that success and why they should get part of it without contributing to it. As a nation, the "entitleds" are bringing about a new civil war, that is far from civil.

  • Noodlekaboodle Salt Lake City, UT
    July 13, 2012 9:24 a.m.

    @ SP
    Doesn't that mean that they spent more money on City Creek than they donated to humanitarian services in the last 25 years?

  • Noodlekaboodle Salt Lake City, UT
    July 13, 2012 9:27 a.m.

    @Ned Grimley
    When your business is classified as a church and doesn't pay taxes that is a different thing altogether. I would be much more successful in business if I didn't have to pay the same taxes my competition.

  • a bit of reality Shawnee Mission, KS
    July 13, 2012 9:27 a.m.

    Financial transparency is an expected form of accountability for churches and non-profits in modern society. If the church doesn’t want people to speculate about its financial endeavors, it ought to disclose the audited financial statements to the public. Until it does so, it should only blame itself for the resulting speculations and misunderstanding.

  • LVIS Salt Lake City, UT
    July 13, 2012 9:58 a.m.

    Noodlekaboodle
    Salt Lake City, UT
    @Ned Grimley
    I would be much more successful in business if I didn't have to pay the same taxes my competition

    Hmm. Trying to figure this one out. You mean the LDS church pays less taxes than say, the Catholic Church? Or the Southern Baptists? Or the Presbyterians? Or....?

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    July 13, 2012 10:51 a.m.

    Well pllusses and minuses. I have always admired the Church welfare program, and its defense of the family, the only institution which makes life in capitalism remotely tolerable. On the minus side the Church is solidly capitalist and therefore can't fathom leftists/liberals/democrats, is hostile to organized labor, is undemocratic, and is a place where to feel welcome one must be a right wing Republican.

  • Hellooo Salt Lake City, UT
    July 13, 2012 11:06 a.m.

    Oh, that the US Government were run as well. If it were, no debt, nice public services all paid for, support and a pathway for less fortunate citizens to independence and liberty rather than life as a serf. To marxist, last time I checked Mr. Reid the Senate majority leader was feeling very welcome as a member of the LDS church and hardly considers himself a right wing republican. The LDS church is an amazing success story that mirrors the American Dream.

  • Midwest Mom Soldiers Grove, WI
    July 13, 2012 11:17 a.m.

    Marxist -- In what way is the Church hostile to labor? We are a strong union family and we have no problem with our views meshing seamlessly with scripture and Church leadership. Where we do have difficulty is with ignorant members who think that Mormon is synonymous with the Republican Party. Unfortunately, the GOP is well aware of that and plays to that audience accordingly.

    The Businessweek article was not good journalism. The author had an agenda and achieved her goals. Like all anti-Church blather, it will burn hot, for a moment, and then disappear. Writings and times like these are why all members must be informed and maintain their own testimonies. I feel sorry for all those who deify Mitt Romney. He is already less like the Mormon and more like the world he so fervently courts.

  • MapleDon Springville, UT
    July 13, 2012 11:28 a.m.

    @a bit of reality

    You're right. Sanctity and secrecy are two different things. The scriptures and the temple are sacred, for example. However, maintaining secrecy regarding non-sacred things can stir up curiosity and speculation.

    Personally, I believe all non-profits owe their contributors the responsibility to disclose how donated funds were used, including reporting the salaries of top paid individuals. This can be done through an annaul audit report that could be posted on the Church's website.

    Many churches and ministries do that today--especially when they have nothing to hide while on "The Lord's Errand."

    One reason the Church hasn't disclosed that information is because of their significant concern with liability.

    Still, I believe the Church would benefit by letting its members (including the poor potato farmer in the Guatemalan highlands) know how those in responsible position have used their contributions, including reporting the compensation paid (and benefits) to its senior officers. Knowing this information will be reported to donors also helps keep compensation in check.

    Currently, the Church's annual audit and this latest press release don't provide that fiduciary information and are woefully lacking and contribute to continued speculation.

  • MapleDon Springville, UT
    July 13, 2012 11:33 a.m.

    @marxist

    The Church has room for a communist like you, too (I'm assuming you're a communist because of your user id). Just leave your politics at the door. The rest of us are supposed to do so as well.

    A relative of mine was an active member of the Church all his life--and was also a prominent communist.

  • NedGrimley Brigham City, UT
    July 13, 2012 11:45 a.m.

    Noodlekaboodle: You totally missed the point of my comment in your effort to complain about the church.

  • zer28 Ogden, UT
    July 13, 2012 1:23 p.m.

    It's sad that we live in a country where we feel like we DESERVE to know everything about everything, like it's our god-given right. It's just fine for churches to be non-profit, oh but not when they have as much money as the LDS Church! Now ALL churches should be 100% transparent and no longer tax-exempt. Nevermind the fact that the church DOES pay taxes on their FOR-PROFIT companies. No, if it's the LDS Church, it's all one in the same.

    Answer me this. Name me ONE member of the church that's getting rich, I mean filthy rich, off of this massive empire. Thomas S. Monson? The Apostles? Mitt Romney? Anyone? No. So why all the outrage?

    We get mad at corporate America because a few people are getting rich at the expense of the many. The 99% vs. the 1%. How can the wealth of the LDS Church even be compared to that? What is the worth of the City Creek Center if it beautifies downtown SLC, potentially drawing more to the temple and the chance to hear the gospel? Is it worth $2 Billion? Yes.

  • A voice of Reason Salt Lake City, UT
    July 13, 2012 1:54 p.m.

    To reach any critical conclusion without looking not only at how the LDS Church has earned income but how it is spent is distressing. In order to reach such a position, one could only either adhere to prejudice or boast the criticism on impulse before having a more complete knowledge of what is true.

    In my experience, most criticisms are only ever formed through hypocrisy. Compare these two examples:

    1) In a day and age where 'wife swapping', promiscuity, and infidelity run rampant- only the polygamous past, despite being organized, faces criticism. Consider it moral or not, it was functionally constructive and an honest practice (By honest, I refer to the phrase of 'making someone an honest woman'). Again, my only point is that criticism is typically formed through hypocrisy.

    2) Today, others who do less good for the world (if any) criticize a religion that by design does everything for the world.

    Bloomberg L.P. vs The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints: Both supposedly make around $6 billion a year. Oddly enough, I don't think they really compare when considering what motivates both parties to make money and where that money is ultimately going.

  • Cinci Man FT MITCHELL, KY
    July 13, 2012 2:16 p.m.

    laggie,
    You probably have all your land and possessions tied up with the world hunger crisis you mentioned. Thanks for sharing with us your exceptional personal qualities. Now please allow the church to create resources for a rainy day for those of us who faithfully serve others inside and outside of this church.
    Noodlekaboodle.
    Please write the truth about the church and taxes. The truth will enlighten you. And for that matter, the same could be said about City Creek and anything else about which you comment. Humanitarian aide comes in many forms and the Church's contribution to the same is much more that the one small fund you mention, each of which addresses needs of others. You have been told this before but you are not listening.

  • 1aggie SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    July 13, 2012 4:10 p.m.

    @ Cinci Man

    I will ignore your personal attack because I don't believe they promote the dialog.

    Regarding your comment "Now please allow the church to create resources for a rainy day for those of us who faithfully serve others inside and outside of this church", are you saying that the "rainy day fund" referred to in the Statement is only intended to benefit members? If so, where did you get that idea?

  • Cinci Man FT MITCHELL, KY
    July 13, 2012 4:28 p.m.

    Laggie. I'm encouraging you to read and think before you make derogatory statements about the church. You know what a rainy day fund is, and you are just trying to make trouble, not have dialogue. If you have a rainy day fund, is it for you and your family for future needs, or is it for the starving in third world countries today? The Church has many programs that address the needs of people all over the world currently and also a rainy day fund for the future that helps it deal with peaks and valleys. Just like you, it does not spend all of it's resources today. Please, in the future, if you wish to have dialogue, do so. But stop wasting space for others who want to discuss things to just make your digs at the church. That's not a personal attack. That's stating what you are doing when you know the difference. You can read, write, tie your own shoes, and you know what a rainy day fund is. Your agenda is showing.

  • 1aggie SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    July 13, 2012 5:28 p.m.

    @ Cinci Man
    Wow. A whole boatload of personal attacks just for asking a couple of questions (neither of which you have answered).

    If asking about the starving people of the world (which currently exist in almost every major city and en masse in Southern Africa) is "making trouble" then I'm proud to be a troublemaker (and think I belong in pretty good historical company). By attacking those who question the status quo as "trouble makers" I believe you belong in not so good historical company.

    That said, the Statement says the rainy day fund can be used in the event of a global food crisis.

    My two questions (restated) are:
    1) Does a global food crisis not currently exist (somebody ought to be able to opine on this)?
    2) You seem to think the rainy day fund is for members only. I want to know how you got that idea. I look at it like personal food/water storage which I intend to share with my neighbors. Why isn't it like that?

  • coltakashi Richland, WA
    July 13, 2012 6:26 p.m.

    The original Bloomberg Businessweek story claimed that Mormon humanitarian contributions, at about $52 million per year, were far less significant than those of the Methodist Church as a percentage of each church's total expenditures. That is an invalid comparison. The actual humanitarian expenditures of the United Methodist Church average about $60 million a year, and when the totals are divided by the US membership of each church, they both come out to about $8 per person per year. The percentage of methodist expenditures is inflated because most of the costs of the Methodist Church are handled at the local level, rather than out of a consolidated central church account.

    So Mormons and Methodists both contribute about the same to worldwide humanitarian relief, and the Fast Offering and Church Welfare programs to care for needy Latter-day Saints are substantial costs in addition to that. Education aid in the developing nations through the Perpetual Education Fund and the support to the BYU and LDS Business College campuses are also standard "charitable" works in addition to religious worship.

  • coltakashi Richland, WA
    July 13, 2012 6:37 p.m.

    My company had a Federal contract which spent over a billion dollars out of President Obama's "stimulus" bill, employing for two years about 1200 people. (Yes, that is a million dollars per job. It's a long story.) This was touted by the Federal government as an exemplary example of creating employment with government funds. My understanding is that the construction of City Creek Center on land the Church has always owned, and which has been an office and retail center for most of that time, also employed a similar number of construction workers. So why isn't the Church being praised for creating good jobs for all those people during a time of recession? Don't you think that if a non-profit organization went into downtown Detroit and invested in a similar project it would be praised to high heaven? Why shouldn't the Church's City Creek Center be similarly praised as a benefit to the community and the nation? Isn't a job better than a handout?

  • Cinci Man FT MITCHELL, KY
    July 14, 2012 6:45 a.m.

    No doubt many have read recent posts. I ask that those who seek for understanding read and ponder principles of provident living that can be found on LDS.org. The Church adheres to these principles of living within its means and setting aside money each year for a rainy day. "World food crisis" is only an example of what might result one day in dipping into the "rainy day fund". Please don't think anally about this concept. 9/11, the recent economic downturn, floods, famines, earthquakes, tsunamis, church burnings, fires, vandalism, and baby boomers retiring in mass in the coming years are all unexpected calamities that could one day result in the need to tap into reserved resources. President Hinckley said a few times that so far, the Church has been able to deal with economic darts and still put money aside each year. Hopefully that will continue. May those readers who desire understanding understand the great work that the Church does and the guiding principles from which we may all benefit if followed. I am grateful for all that the Church does for others,.

  • A voice of Reason Salt Lake City, UT
    July 14, 2012 8:41 a.m.

    1aggie,

    You criticized the LDS Church from the start. The LDS Church is defending its practices and you claim that it is indeed a rainy day, as if the LDS Church should be giving every last dollar and asset it can right now. Not only is it not prudent, but neither does the red cross and other organizations.

    Unless you personally are doing more and doing it more effectively than the LDS Church, you are in no logical position or on any moral ground to complain.

    Furthermore, Cinci's replies weren't personal attacking in the slightest. Your criticism, if not hypocritical, would rest on your resources 'tied up' as Cinci had illustrated. Also, Cinci may not know how such funds would be used.

    Cinci's replies have not resorted to ad hominem reasoning. I can only reasonable conclude that you either did not understand or that you are here to stir up a pointless argument. In any case, I will address your questions in another post. I am simply stating now that Cinci has responded with a logic that rested on your statements; whether with an attitude or not, his followed reason- your taking offense does not.

  • A voice of Reason Salt Lake City, UT
    July 14, 2012 8:52 a.m.

    laggie,

    My reply:

    1) Your first question is entirely dependent on what constitutes a "global food crisis". I don't consider our current status as such. If a single neighbor is starving, is it? No. What about a thousand, or one person on each continent?. Webster defines Crisis as "a significant event or radical change of status". It's an event, not a condition. We have seen no such dramatic change that upsets the balance of who has food and who does not. Logically, we are not seeing a crisis taking place.

    2) "You seem to think" and "you got that idea" are logically fallacious. It's a loaded question.

    3) Why don't we just share everything? Because people don't share back. U.S. welfare fails for this reason where the LDS system succeeds- teaching people HOW to fish. Educated and intellectual examinations of how the LDS Church spends typically conclude with praise. Therefore, if there is any doubt regarding how the LDS Church operates or how effective it is in comparison to some other design- the burden of proof is on you or others, not the LDS Church.

    Those are quite reasonable and not personally attacking.

  • Gemma, UK Leighton Buzzard, UK
    July 14, 2012 11:32 a.m.

    "Lots and lots of wealthy Mormons out there. This scrutiny about the LDS Church and the latest news/scrutiny about Mitt Romney must be extremely uncomfortable for all of them." St.George, Utah.

    There are also lots and lots of hard-working middle-income mormons (most of the ones I know) as well as some who are down on their luck and are receiving temporary assistance with living costs from the church. There are also many in developing countries who, with the help of the Perpetual Education Fund, are able to invest in their education and therefore the future of themselves and their community.

    I'm not sure I get the point you are making.

  • 1aggie SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    July 14, 2012 2:23 p.m.

    @ A Voice of Reason

    Thanks for the laugh.

    Your statement "Unless you personally are doing more and doing it more effectively than the LDS Church, you are in no logical position or on any moral ground to complain" is in itself an ad hominem attack. But in the future, when you make comments about a person, country, or organization, I will expect you to observe your rule and first list what you have personally done to exceed that person's, country's, or organization's achievements or contributions.

    Regarding using the word "crisis", in my first post I noted that more than 17 million people are now facing possible starvation in West Africa’s Sahel region. They were not starving before. This meets every definition of a "crisis" and 17 million is hardly a trivial number.

    Regarding world hunger:
    According to estimates by the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations, there were 925 million undernourished people in the world in 2010. The same organization reports there were 923 million malnourished people in the world in 2007, which in turn represented an increase of 80 million since 1990.

    In conclusion, debating ideas is fine, judging intent is not.

  • donn layton, UT
    July 14, 2012 3:01 p.m.

    To:., Nevermind the fact that the church DOES pay taxes on their FOR-PROFIT companies. No, if it's the LDS Church, it's all one in the same

    The great wealth of the Mormon Church is becoming very apparent. Neil Morgan, “Business Esquire“, August 1962).The Mormon leaders might do well to consider the which was made by Jesus” “My Kngdom is Not of this world…(John 18:30). The Bible does not say anything about Jesus trying to build a temporal kingdom or manage a large business, instead ,it says that he had to place to lay his head.

  • Jonathan Eddy Payson, UT
    July 14, 2012 4:22 p.m.

    "NedGrimley- When did success and wealth become bad?"

    When uneducated Americans started believing socialism (communism) was good.

  • Int'l Businessman SLO, CA
    July 14, 2012 6:05 p.m.

    I have been taught that if I don't do my hometeaching, I will share a portion of the sorrow of the families I didn't visit.

    I can't help but wonder if we, as church members, will share in the portion of the pain and loss of people who starve to death in the world each day as we sit on our piles of gold?

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum Dallas, TX
    July 14, 2012 6:09 p.m.

    The LDS Church needs to file tax returns to the IRS. Then, we'll see some element of the truth.

  • Jonathan Eddy Payson, UT
    July 14, 2012 6:11 p.m.

    My advice to Mormons and non Mormons alike: Get wealthy. Stay wealthy. Be a good steward of that wealth. Enjoy the wealth. It is a blessing from divine providence.

  • David43 Heidelberg, 00
    July 14, 2012 11:33 p.m.

    Is a church professing to be acting in God's name more accoutable to God or man? The Apostle Peter posed this question to the Jewish leaders after healing a crippled man in the gates of the temple and being critisized for it. If there is a living God with a church on this earth lawfully acting in his name, should non-believers have the right to vote on how his personally-chosen representatives manage his resources and affairs? Perhaps a more meaningful and important activity for all of us would be to find out for ourselves if there truly is a living God and what he expects of us in this life.

  • hoggityboo Carthage, IL
    July 15, 2012 7:35 a.m.

    Collectivism, and Keynesianism, have failed, and continue to fail. Austrian economics is alive and well, and will rebuild this country when the Keynesianism of the globalists implodes upon itself.

  • Trooper55 Williams, AZ
    July 15, 2012 10:06 a.m.

    I believe that when you aren't forth coming with your financial in a church you must be not honest. I come from a very smal church and all our financial records are always open to inspection by anybody who cares to look at them. I also give to all funds raising at my church and I don't place a percentage on what I give. I have never read in the bible about building big fancy buildings for worship no were in the bible does it say, but it says to be honest about all you do. I believe that the LDS are afaird to be 100% honest with the public and I don't believe it's because Mitt Rommey is running for president, but people are starting to questioning their ways.

  • woolybruce Idaho Falls, ID
    July 15, 2012 11:27 a.m.

    This article was actually useful. It spelled out the priorities of the church, to build buildings (Chapels and Temples) do Missionary work, and ensure that church members are self sufficient and at the very bottom is humanitarian outreach. So no one including church members should be surprised when the media reports that the Church spends much less in proportion than do other Christian Denominations who has a priority of humanitarian outreach. As a Missionary 3 decades ago I turned away the homeless because I didn't have the resources to assist that homeless man. And now my son 30 years later had to do the same thing because as an LDS Missionary he doesn't have the resources to assist the homeless. There are some Christian Denominations that send Missionaries out to actually help the homeless.

  • J Thompson SPRINGVILLE, UT
    July 15, 2012 7:09 p.m.

    If you're a member of the LDS Church and you don't like the way it's run, talk to your bishop. If you're not a member of the LDS Church, then why should you care whether members of the church choose to pay tithes and offerings, whether the church chooses to help people world-wide and whether the church uses its talented people to run tax-paying businesses? Would YOU rather handle the burden of humanitarian care world-wide? Would YOU rather do without the goods and services that the government provides because of those taxes on church businesses? Or, do you just like to complain when you see people doing worthwhile things with their time and God-given talents?

    Somehow, I suspect it's the last assumption that has your shorts tied up in knots.

    Good people do good things. Those not listed in that "good" group gripe and complain. In the Book of Mormon, it's called "murmuring".

  • Austin Coug Pflugerville, TX
    July 15, 2012 8:08 p.m.

    Trooper55,

    I think you are making a big assumption with your assertion that Churches that don't fully disclose financial information must be dishonest. I personally don't know which other churches do or don't share their financials. I figure that is between them and their members who donate. If the members don't trust those that administr the funds, they should donate elsewhere. My questions for you include:

    - Do you have the same assertion for all charities that don't disclose their finances?
    - What about goverment agencies supported by your taxes?

    I trust where my money is going because of how I see how the money i donate is used (temples, churches, education, seminary, humanitarian aid, missionary work, etc...). Do i know where everythign goes? No. However, if I didn't trust the church...i would choose not to donate. If there have been scandals and misappropriation of funds I have donated to the LDS church, i would be interested to hear about about them. However, you will find it is practically non-existent. However, to some that just means they are good at covering it up. To each their own.

  • Duh west jordan, ut
    July 15, 2012 9:52 p.m.

    I do have to say this is funny dialogue. The Anti-mormon movement is in full swing (at least by laggie). No matter the article, they will find negative baseless points of view.

    Of all things I noticed that the Catholic Church is never mentioned. We are but a drop in their bucket and yet their financial empire is never brought into question.

    Wonder why that is........nope, I don't. Truth is what it is no matter how much sugar you put on it.

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    July 16, 2012 8:36 a.m.

    Lots more proof here that you can't reason with a closed mind.

    I will gladly keep paying my tithing and paying my fast offerings with complete confidence that the money is used prudently to help those in need and support vital functions of the Lords church. And I don't feel the need to know how much the church is worth financially or where all of my donations go.

  • Shelama SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    July 16, 2012 10:01 a.m.

    The Mormons should be given credit for sincerely believing that their vast corporate wealth is, indeed, for the 'Kingdom of God' as they understand it, and for "preparing individuals and the church community for life with God" as they envision it.

    Still, it's hard to imagine that a multi-billion dollar corporation is what the real Jesus had in mind as he ministered hope and consolation and healing to the poor and the sick and the downtrodden in the dusty backwater of the Galilee and sent out his disciples without purse or script or sandals (ok, Mark has his Jesus sign-off on the sandals).

  • A voice of Reason Salt Lake City, UT
    July 17, 2012 7:18 a.m.

    1aggie,

    You are absolutely right, it is ad hominem. However, anyone who even knows what ad hominem is should also know that not all ad hominem arguments are fallacious.

    Saying that "His economic plan is obviously wrong, he doesn't even have a job" is a fallacious ad hominem attack. But there is a clear and obvious difference in saying "If a jobless man is criticizing how other people get jobs, the burden of proof is on them to show a more effective approach to job-hunting." If you are questioning the effectiveness of someone else's practices based on a comparison between your own ideals and their own, then your ideals and how you act on them have been brought into question. Karl Marx's theory wasn't simply economic, it rested on premises that men wouldn't be greedy, would welcome hard work, and other good ideals if they truly believed in that system- that that belief would come from destroying capitalism. For him to not even lift a finger, but rather spend his days in museums and jobless while his daughter didn't have medications they couldn't afford, logically shows that his theory was false.

  • raybies Layton, UT
    July 17, 2012 12:53 p.m.

    What a great opportunity for the church to share its mission! Good for them for taking all the criticism in stride and publishing a great article that's both inspirational and helpful--sharing ideals that could help all people if they'd base their lives and personal wellbeing upon similar principles.

  • Tornogal LITTLE ROCK, AR
    July 22, 2012 8:21 p.m.

    So much of the speculation, so much of the misunderstanding, so much of the innuendo could be eliminated if the brethren would just publish financial reports to the membership.

    Why don't they?

  • sigmund5 Salt Lake City, UT
    July 31, 2012 12:46 p.m.

    It is good to see that the church is admitting that it runs The Dessert News and KSl to serve as the political and theological arm of the church and not to present news. No other religion in the US owns and dominates a state's media like the LDS church. No wonder the state is 95% Republican.