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  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    July 6, 2012 11:49 a.m.

    Huntsman was the best GOP canidate in 2012. A shame, really.

  • Still Blue after all these years Kaysville, UT
    July 6, 2012 11:55 a.m.

    Jon, just go ahead and make it official - join the Democrat party. That's who you are. You and your family have hated Mitt for a few years now and deep down, you are hoping he loses. It's sad when one thinks he is so important because his daddy gave him a lot of money; but when evaluating his life, has never really accomplished anything. The GOP convention will not miss you for one second.

  • Danish American Payson, UT
    July 6, 2012 12:10 p.m.

    Good riddance. We need to get all the RINOs out of the party. And Pagan is right--he would have been the best for the Democrats because there is no difference between Obama and Huntsman.

  • Furry1993 Clearfield, UT
    July 6, 2012 12:22 p.m.

    To Still Blue 11:55 a.m. July 6

    Sorry, you're wrong. Governor Huntsman is a Republican. He's just not a far right wing extremist. He's what Republicans SHOULD be.

    The Republican Party, and the United States, would have been far better off if he was the Republican candidate for President. He was the class of the field. Too bad the far right extremist base wouldn't give him a chance.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    July 6, 2012 12:27 p.m.

    Boo hoo, Jon.

    Nice case of sour grapes

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    July 6, 2012 12:28 p.m.

    He's reasonable, and Republicans hate reason.

  • CRB Woods Cross, UT
    July 6, 2012 12:45 p.m.

    None of the things Huntsman calls for are what he argued for during the primary season. He ran on a non-position, can't we all get along, liberal economic platform that never clarified. He ran last against every single opponent for a reason. He was also the only of the remaining 8 candidates that never had a political pulse. It was a shame really. It was a waste of money and effort in an effort of hubris that never had impact or moved th meter. The only possible reason for running other than pure hubris would have been an effort to get a VP or cabinet post. However, his Joe Biden politics seemed to have ruined that as well leaving him foundering at a liberal think tank and finally showing his true colors. He certainly has almost no credibility within the conservative movement and only fringe interest in the Republican party. He still sounds whiney. His refusal to attend the convention is like the kid that didn't make the basketball team saying he will refuse to attend varsity practice. Why do you think anybody cares?

  • NT Springville, UT
    July 6, 2012 12:52 p.m.

    Anyone could have predicted the ID's of those who would stand behind Gov Huntsman in the comment section today...Pagan, atl134, and there will be a few more, once they roll out of bed.

    Makes me laugh, actually.

    I guess some of you just as well say "hey, if the Republicans would just accept the Democrat's platform, then I would be a Republican" ???

    And for Jon to show his arrogance in this way, insinuating that the GOP needs to come to him rather than the other way around....sheesh!

    Abesnt in 2012 and expecting the GOP to embrace you in 2016? Think again.

  • jsf Centerville, UT
    July 6, 2012 12:54 p.m.

    He is a center left. That is why liberals like him and think he would be a great republican nominee. Like McCain, if he cant standout he wouldnt get elected. Fence sitting gets you nothing. The problem with romney is he keeps trying to stay so close to the fence.

  • LivinLarge Bountiful, UT
    July 6, 2012 1:03 p.m.

    I get it, pride goeth before the fall...Jon must not have received an invitation to speak from the main platform. Frankly, I've heard all the Chinese from him that I need to!

  • LValfre CHICAGO, IL
    July 6, 2012 1:12 p.m.

    Huntsman would be way better than Romney. He come's from a multicultural family (like our country is), has tons of foreign experience with China (the new world mega-power on the rise), and he distances himself from his faith (like a president is supposed to with politics). I liked Huntsman a lot.

  • Common Sense Czar Sandy, UT
    July 6, 2012 1:15 p.m.

    Who?

  • merich39 Salt Lake City, UT
    July 6, 2012 1:17 p.m.

    Mitt Romney and John Huntsman are both centrists in their basic nature. The difference between the two is that John Huntsman actually stands by his core principals. Mitt Romney would sell his soul to win election. Agree or disagree with John Huntsman, you at least have to give him credit for staying true to himself. Mitt, on the other hand, has been all over the map... he been whoever the listening audience wanted him to be. As an independent who voted for Reagan, I'll never cast a vote for Mitt Romney.

  • Hunt Spanish Fork, UT
    July 6, 2012 1:17 p.m.

    I didn't vote for Huntsman as Governor and I would never vote for him as President. He is the epitome of what pandering to gain power and prestige is.
    For those that want to call me a "far right extremist", you go right ahead and keep labeling me and others you don't agree with negative terms, it really only shows your losing the argument. Name calling is usually the last gasp of someone who has nothing substantive to say. The fact of the matter is, I have always been the same person and haven't wavered from the ideals I believe in. What we have seen in this nation is a slow creep to the left as Governments size and reach has been expanded by both Democrats and Republicans. So now, those of us who looked moderate in the past are all of a sudden labeled with the negative tag of "far right extremist". It really is shameful.

  • Common Sense Czar Sandy, UT
    July 6, 2012 1:22 p.m.

    I too...the Common Sense Czar, will NOT be attending the Republican Convention. This is just as big of news story.

  • Fitness Freak Salt Lake City, UT
    July 6, 2012 1:28 p.m.

    Lets face it; the ONLY reason Jon Huntsman got as far as he did (guv., ambassadorship, etc.)was his (dads)money.

    I thought the liberal progressives' didn't like those qualities in Republicans?

    The Demos. liked him for Pres. so if their guy (Obama)lost, what could be better than having Huntsman in the White House? It would be almost the same as having Obama for another term!

    Huntsmans' positions more closely resemble the Demo. platform than the Repubs. I suppose he KNOWS he won't be elected to much of anything as a Demo which explains why he runs as a Republican, disguised as a Demo.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    July 6, 2012 1:36 p.m.

    @NT
    Huntsman is not a liberal or a Democrat. I certainly don't agree with him on everything, but he actually has a willingness to work with people in the interest of moving the country forward, and that's a good thing. As for the party coming to him... Huntsman is right. DW-nominate scores partisanship of congressional members. 1 is fully conservative, 0 is moderate, -1 is fully independent. In 1981 the average Republican had a score of around +0.23 and the average Democrat around -0.28. By 1993 the average Republican was +0.40 and average Democrat was -0.33. In 2011 the average Republican was +0.65 and the average Democrat was -0.40. So yeah partisanship has increased over the past few decades and it's moreso on the Republican side rather than the Democrats (heck most of the reason the Democrats one went up from 2009 to 2011 was because bluedogs lost their seats, usually when a party gains seats and the house it moderates more because it's picking up purple districts but in this case Republicans actually became even more conservative after the 2010 races).

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    July 6, 2012 2:21 p.m.

    While I don't agree with Huntsman's policies--for example, he endorsed Paul Ryan's budget plan, he has the courage to voice what many centrist Republicans (and many Americans)know to be true. The Republican Party has moved far away from what it used to be and is putting politics before governing which is damaging the future of this country.

    Norm Orenstein (conservative American Enterprise Institute)put it succinctly:

    "the Republican Party, has become an insurgent outlier—ideologically extreme; contemptuous of the inherited social and economic policy regime; scornful of compromise; unpersuaded by conventional understanding of facts, evidence, and science; and dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition. When one party moves this far from the center of American politics, it is extremely difficult to enact policies responsive to the country’s most pressing challenges."

  • Hunt Spanish Fork, UT
    July 6, 2012 2:45 p.m.

    @Truthseeker

    Just because you quote someone doesn't make what they are saying correct. Norm Orenstein's biggest mistake in his argument is that he assumes the center of American politics is an unmovable position. In fact the center where the American people reside currently is to the right of where our current politicians reside in Washington. I would argue that this is precisely why Congress's approval rating is so low. They continue to pass left leaning laws and enact left leaning policies that mainstream America does not agree with.
    Orenstein says that the Republican Party is scornful of compromise. He must think that the Republican Party was right on track under Bush when they were in lockstep with Democrats in spending and growth. Every compromise offered up by the Democratic left is only a compromise to slow the growth of government and its spending ways, not reverse it. So when Republicans scoff, the left can say "LOOK! Republicans won't compromise." There needs to be a pendulum swing back to decreasing government and its spending, not increasing. Right now "compromise" resides left of center.

  • George Bronx, NY
    July 6, 2012 3:16 p.m.

    So now people that always defend the rich and big business are going to attach Huntsman because he comes from money? the comedy train rolls on.

  • EJM Herriman, UT
    July 6, 2012 3:27 p.m.

    Governor Huntsman was the candidate for me because of his willingness to address all the issues listed in this article. I will vote for Governor Romney and ifhe is smart he will ask Governor Huntsman to serve as his UN Ambassador.

  • So. Cal Reader San Diego, CA
    July 6, 2012 3:51 p.m.

    And this is news because ...... ? Huntsman was irrelevant when he was running, and he's even more so now. Is the rumor true that Hunstman is planning on attending the Independent, Libertarian or Geen Party Conventions?

    Re: Pagan "Huntsman was the best GOP candidate in 2012." Nice that your assessment was shared by so many others. I believe you're the only one that sees your diamond in the rough.

  • chiefbrady Draper, UT
    July 6, 2012 3:53 p.m.

    Dear Jonny, the rest of the RINO's called - they want their donations back.

  • Attack of the Republiclones O-town, UT
    July 6, 2012 4:15 p.m.

    @George

    You nailed it! They just listen to the GOP's marching orders from the "brain trust" of Limbaugh, Rove, Coulter and other ilk and let the hate flow through their veins oozing like maple syrup. Logic or reason doesn't matter. It never has with these Tea Party types. They just need something to hate--badly!

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 6, 2012 4:17 p.m.

    Sorry, I no longer care what RINO Huntsman does.

    THe influence of RINOs on the Republican party is driving away conservatives who will no longer "socialism lite" as an alternative to the "socialism now" of the Democrats.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    July 6, 2012 4:20 p.m.

    Furry, atl134, LValfre,
    If he’s so reasonable and what the party needs, why does he not try to have a voice? No, it’s purely a case of sour grapes.

    merich39,
    so you intend to condemn our nation to another 4 disastrous years under BO?

    Hunt,
    Get used to it, the “tolerant” left has all sorts of names for people who do not tow their line.

    George,
    So now the people who engage in class warfare and constantly attack people with money are going to stand up for Huntsman because he feels slighted by the repubs? The comedy train rolls on

    Attackoftherepubliclones
    And the hate of Bill Maher, Lawrence O’Donnell, Rosie O’Donnell, David Letterman, and Joy Behar, etc ad infinitum must be acceptable to you, because it comes from the left addressed to the right. Correct?

  • Ebed SYRACUSE, UT
    July 6, 2012 4:32 p.m.

    Judas H. Priest! I thought better of Huntsman. This response is so juvenile. Did he get rid of all his good advisers or are they the ones behind this silliness?

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    July 6, 2012 4:35 p.m.

    @lost in DC
    "If he’s so reasonable and what the party needs, why does he not try to have a voice?"

    He tried that, he ran an entire campaign, how much good did that do him?

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    July 6, 2012 4:47 p.m.

    re:Hunt
    "this is precisely why Congress's approval rating is so low. They continue to pass left leaning laws and enact left leaning policies"

    Really?

    About one-third of Americans approve of the way congressional Democrats are doing their jobs, compared to a 23-percent approval rating for Republicans. Though the numbers are poor for both parties, support for Democrats is higher across most ranges — age, education level, income level, religion and political preference. The GOP runs about evenly with Democrats among non-college-educated whites and slightly ahead of them among white evangelical Protestants, according to the poll.
    (ABC poll 3/2012)

  • Hunt Spanish Fork, UT
    July 6, 2012 5:51 p.m.

    @truthseeker

    I'm not sure where your getting your data but its not one on Congress's Job approval. Congressional approval is in the 13 percent range. (ABC poll 1/2012)

    I'm a registered Independent. I'm not so much concerned about the Dem's vs. Repub's as I am concerned about conservative fiscally sane policies vs. politically driven entitlements that ignore sanity. (i.e. Orin Hatch's support of unfunded Medicare part D)

    If the dem's were passing a budget in Washington and doing anything other than spending out there ears at an ever accelerated rate, I'd support them. Right now it just so happens its the Republicans who are actually talking about reigning in Government so they have my ear.

    JFK said it best,"ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country." The democratic mantra these days is for Government to spoon feed you from cradle to grave. This creates an entitlement society. They throw JFK's statement out the window in order to elect the next lib who will give them something for nothing off the backs of tax payers.

  • The Rock Federal Way, WA
    July 6, 2012 6:19 p.m.

    I read Jon's statement:

    ... a more confident future for the United States," Huntsman said in a statement. "A future based on problem solving, inclusiveness, and a willingness to address the trust deficit, which is every bit as corrosive as fiscal and economic deficits."...

    The Republican Party that I know is about problem solving, inclusiveness and honesty. I am left to wonder what Republican Party he is talking about.

    I can only conclude that he is seeing something that no other Republican I know can see (because it is not there) or he is so far to the left that he is incapable of seeing the truth.

    There is one other alternative: It could be a case of sour grapes.

  • Aggielove Cache county, USA
    July 6, 2012 7:21 p.m.

    Not a time to make a stand.
    Support what you agree with mostly, and get over your vainess.

  • mohokat Ogden, UT
    July 6, 2012 7:51 p.m.

    Will not attend any Rep.Convention! Oh no Johny Boy say it aint so. I am broken hearted.

  • A1994 Centerville, UT
    July 6, 2012 8:03 p.m.

    "A more confident future for the United States." What do you have in mind, Jon? That's the problem. That statement is almost as specific as "Hope and Change." Jon Huntsman isn't getting pushed out of the picture in the Republican party because of 'right-wing extremists.' His problem is that he is short on specifics. There is a disconnect in the arguments against the GOP. On the one hand, the GOP has been co-opted by 'right-wing extremists' who don't give people like Huntsman a voice. And Utah is considered the most red of the red states. Yet, it was Utah who elected him as governor. So which is it? Jon Huntsman is a light-weight and that's why he didn't win the nomination.

  • DAve Thomas Farmington, UT
    July 6, 2012 8:08 p.m.

    Bravo, Governor Huntsman.

    I am appalled by "party first hold on to or regain power at all costs" mantra that i see in both parties and i believe it won't change until smart, courageous and articulate candidates like you stand up with some intellectual integrity.

    It is my opinion that your approach to every single issue that faces our country displayed core knowledge and thoughtfulness that others either lacked or soft-pedaled as they played to their emotionally irrational base.

    Please don't go away.

    dave thomas -- Farmington, Utah

  • Howard Beal Provo, UT
    July 6, 2012 9:27 p.m.

    I'm not attending the convention either. It's way over there and I"m here...

  • ljeppson Salt Lake City, UT
    July 6, 2012 10:27 p.m.

    If you want to know what the Republican Party has sunk to consider the parade in Huntsville where one of the floats actually encouraged violence against the president. The Republican Party stinks to high heaven. I wonder how a good man like Huntsman could ever be at home in it again.

  • Attack of the Republiclones O-town, UT
    July 6, 2012 11:11 p.m.

    @Lost in DC

    I see the point you are trying to make. Yes there are voices on the left. Are they as hate-filled? In my opinion, not even close. You mentioned some comedians: Letterman and Maher. First off, I don't watch either of them, but they point fun at both parties (pre-dominantly the right, but hey, they give them more material). I don't even know if Rosie O'Donnell has a program anymore--never saw that. I have occassionaly seen the Lawernce O'Donnell show on MSNBC. Does he attack women and call them derogatory names like Rush--no. I think Ed Shultz did do something like that once, apologized, and was fined. Rush doubled-down. I don't know the Behar person you are mentioning.

    I can watch the "left" shows and not have to agree on every issue. The Democratic Party spans far left to blue dogs. The Tea Party is trying to purge any GOP who disagree. On the whole, my liberal friends while passionate on issues aren't belligerent and want to work with the other party to move things forward. GOP--my way or nothing!

    Have a good day.

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    July 7, 2012 1:43 a.m.

    Re:Hunt

    I did not report Congress' OVERALL approval rating. You are correct, in that it the overall rating for Congress from 13-17%.
    The data i referred to was specific to the parties, asked: Do you approve or disapprove of the way Republicans/Democrats in Congress are doing their job? It also asked "which political party better represents your own values and is more concerned with the needs of people like you?

    In case you havent noticed, Congress isnt doing much of anything. The House has been passing numerous bills which dont have a prayer of passing in the evenly divided Senate.

    Debt as a percentage of GDP is what matters. While we need to look at debt on a long term basis, austerity measures right now will just further increase our economic woes. It has been found that unemployment payments and food stamps are significantly more stimulating to the economy than tax cuts. As Romney said " “If you just cut, if all you’re thinking about doing is cutting spending, as you cut spending you’ll slow down the economy.”

  • Mount Olympus Salt Lake, UT
    July 7, 2012 7:41 a.m.

    Someone a little bitter that not many voted for him?

    Huntsman you may have gotten some more votes if you listened to the voters.
    We said no to the soccer stadium, your wife said yes. If you would have listened to the voters when making that decision you may have got more votes in presidency run.

  • Steve C. Warren WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    July 7, 2012 9:26 a.m.

    Another honest, sensible decision by Huntsman. Unlike Romney, he's a unifier, not a divider.

    As an Obama supporter, I'm so glad Jon won't be getting the GOP nomination. He's the only one of the bunch who I thought might have a good chance against the president. Thankfully, Republicans will nominate Romney, which means one thing: Obama will be re-elected by a comfortable margin, perhaps even a landslide.

  • Doug10 Roosevelt, UT
    July 7, 2012 1:47 p.m.

    Having been a lifelong GOP I can fully understand Mr. Huntsman.

    Who is the GOP party, not RINO's not tea party, not a party of copmpromise, known nationally as a party of "NO" they have yet to establish their current identity. Mitt Romney cannot establish who he is let alone direct the party/country/reasonable men and women.

    I do not fully endorse Mr. Huntsman but in this he is correct. For anyone to attend the GOP party this year is wishful thinking.

    We wish it could be like the days gone by, but having the economy brought down under the reign of Pres Bush and Pres Obama has not done a lot to correct the course in the past 3 years. The country needs a leader, not a politician but a leader. Sadly neither party is allowing leaders to surface, only politicians who must pay back supporters once they gain office. The next term because of lack of leadership is bound to be a reflection of this one.

  • kargirl Sacramento, CA
    July 7, 2012 2:26 p.m.

    I can't see me voting Republican any time soon, but there have been Republicans whose policies have worked well and I have liked. And one was the man who was responsible for the highway system, and, although I wasn't nearly old enough to vote for him, I'm glad he did it. But Huntsman is right about his take on the political atmosphere. While I wouldn't have voted for him, either, his platform didn't seem to be as one-sided as the current nominee's. He would, I believe, were he elected, be willing to put country before party as well. What brought him down was the wholesale put-down of his contributions during the Obama administration by opponents, including the current nominee, who couldn't seem to understand that serving the country includes being willing to use one's abilities in a position when your President asks you to take it because you, not someone else, are the most qualified person to place there. Now, think on that.

  • Duke Salt Lake City, UT
    July 7, 2012 5:18 p.m.

    I don't understand all this talk about Jon Huntsman being a "reasonable" republican (is there really such a thing?) or even more laughable a "RINO". Huntsman is at his heart just as right wing and goose-stepping as they come. Any liberal who says they'd vote for him is out their minds.

  • liberate Sandy, UT
    July 8, 2012 7:00 p.m.

    @CRB and a lot of others who obviously don't take the time to read what candidates actually say and publish and elect to take their news from the chat boards of the DN.

    Jon Huntsman is and was a true conservative in every sense of the word. He adopted a far more conservative approach to managing Utah than Mitt Romney did in MA and led Utah to be one of the more successful states during his tenure. In the elections, he argued for practical and implementable solutions that are far right of where the country is going and were in some cases even further right than Mitt Romney's, who frankly still hasn't taken a position on any other item than the economy.

    Huntsman would have been the right candidate and I'm sure will be in the future. Romney will lose this time, mark my word, because he refuses to deliver nonpartisan leadership and feels he needs to run some analysis about how his words will be taken before saying anything decisive. It's not a way to be leader and certainly won't make him the leader of the free world.

  • NotBuyingIt MIDVALE, UT
    July 9, 2012 2:34 p.m.

    What Huntsman fails to recognize is that politically correct insanity has become the de facto law of the land and these are some of the disastrous results: Abortion on demand; unwed parenthood; homosexual marriage; the welfare, entitlement state; amnesty for illegal immigrants; etc. etc. etc. These things are not conservative ideas. They are liberal, left wing ideas and they are killing us. It is not the right that has gone haywire, it is the LEFT. And for the right to try and be more like the left will only make things worse.

  • vance SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    July 10, 2012 9:40 a.m.

    Huntsman has been a member of the CFR (Council of Foreign Relations). In other words, a Gadianton. Like the mafia, you do not leave unless they have other plans for you. He refused to discuss this with me and brushed by me at an interview while running for Governor.. I have been told he was very disliked while Governor. He unconstitutionally had ties to Mexico while Governor and made alliances then just apologized (after) He had conflict of interests and should have exposed this then, or have stepped down. If he didn't understand the Constitution he should not have been Governor. He has a huge ego and part of the One Worlders inside and out Don't trust him one iota. He, like Hatch, will continue to bring down our Country. He is more dangerous (if possible) than Hatch.

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    July 11, 2012 8:27 a.m.

    No one will miss him.

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    July 11, 2012 8:33 a.m.

    Attack of the Republiclones, I could pull about 10,000 sound bites and commercials off of YouTube where the left, from those screamers at MSNBC to Pelosi, Reid, and Obama trashing Bush and Republicans all over the place. The Republicans have never made a TV ad showing a Paul Ryan look alike pushing someone off of a cliff. I have seen the left hang Bush in effigy, burn the American flag, advocate the killing of Bush, it goes on and on. Bottom line, the left is not pure on this matter.