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  • MiP Iowa City, IA
    May 7, 2012 10:17 p.m.

    Regarding the ESPN poll: I thought the 1984 BYU football championship was pretty high, Utah's 2008 undefeated season with a win over Bama in the '09 Sugar Bowl and John Stockton sending the Jazz to the finals with his shot v Houston were all big.

    But the 2002 Winter games should be the top moment for the state....

  • Go Utes! Springville, UT
    May 8, 2012 7:13 a.m.

    Olympics for sure are the most important thing, then Stockton over Barkley, Utah Sugar Bowl and BYU's championship, followed by RSL's MLS cup, then Utah' '44 championship.

  • milner Centerfield Sanpete, UT
    May 8, 2012 7:47 a.m.

    I agree with Lonster, The Utah Stars ABA championship in 1971 was the biggest!

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 8, 2012 11:01 a.m.

    Last month, I saw a middle-aged woman wearing a "Salt Lake 2002" Olympics ball cap on the subway all the way back here in Philadelphia, and she wasn't the first person I'd seen wearing '02 Olympics paraphrenalia. I've NEVER seen anyone wearing ANYTHING remotely reflective of the Y's '84 shampionship -- not even from the cougar alumni in my stake. Utah's victories in the '05 Fiesta and '09 Sugar Bowls are only "talked" about; not displayed on hats and T-shirts across the city, and those discussions only come up when folks hear I'm a Utah alumnus. All the "water cooler" talk about those games died out within a month of those games played.

    Clearly, the Olympics had been the brightest moment in Utah sports history.

  • Dand_Ute WEST JORDAN, UT
    May 8, 2012 3:08 p.m.

    Just a note that CFN post spring poll has the Utes ranked 13th!!

  • Shawnm750 West Jordan, UT
    May 8, 2012 4:16 p.m.

    Uh...the poll is for U of U moments, not ABA, BYU, Olympics or who knows what else... Read the article peeps!

    I'd say the Sugar Bowl victory was the best, with the '98 NCAA run as a VERY close second. The Fiesta Bowl victory is obviously up there too, but the 'Bama game was one of the best sporting games I've ever watched! (Obviously I'm biased, but even non-fans would have to admit that it was pretty awesome - Barry Switzer even ate some crow during that game!)

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    May 8, 2012 5:02 p.m.

    Hate to tell you, Shawnm, but the actual ESPN poll is for all sports moments for the state of Utah. You have to click on the link.

    Winter Olympics was the most important sports moment for the state of Utah. I get to pay homage to the '02 Olympics at every Ute home football game. The committee came to the U and said "this is the place", just like Brigham!

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    May 8, 2012 5:47 p.m.

    Seeing Jimmer slam a half court shot in the HC gets my vote!

  • Utes Fan Salt Lake City, UT
    May 9, 2012 9:18 a.m.

    @MiP
    "But the 2002 Winter games should be the top moment for the state...."

    --------
    Agreed completely. 2002 Winter Games without a doubt.

  • 112 Pack Spokane, WA
    May 9, 2012 4:40 p.m.

    1) Utah pounding a 10 point favorite Alabama team in their own back yard.
    1a) Andre Miller taking the Utes on his shoulder as they beat San Fran, Arkansas, West Virginia, Arizona, then North Carolina in the NCAA's.

  • 112 Pack Spokane, WA
    May 9, 2012 4:42 p.m.

    let's be fair here:

    2) BYU's crew of Danny Ainge, Fred Roberts, Greg Kite and Devin Durrant knocking off Notre Dame in the NCAA's
    2a) BYU running the table, winning the NCAA championship, by beating Michigan in the Rose Bowl. Too bad the BCS wasn't around then. I don't think BYU would have won the NC, but you never know.

  • divotmaker21 Farmington, UT
    May 9, 2012 10:50 p.m.

    112pack
    lets be fair here:
    BYU never played Michigan in the Rose Bowl, they played in the Holiday Bowl against a 6-5 team.
    BYU has never played in the Rose Bowl period. nice try though!

  • 112 Pack Spokane, WA
    May 10, 2012 8:39 a.m.

    @ divotmaker
    My mistake. Yes it was the Holiday Bowl.

    Do you feel better now?

  • nosaerfoecioveht NSL, UT
    May 10, 2012 11:35 a.m.

    @112 Pack
    "BYU running the table..."

    The kids table. They didn't play a single ranked team. Even in the "championship game."

  • 112 Pack Spokane, WA
    May 10, 2012 12:26 p.m.

    Call it what you want, but they won every game that year and were crowned National Champion. I know all about who they played and that they beat a 6-5 Michigan team in the Holiday Bowl.

    Notice I put the Utes 2009 season ahead. That year Utah beat four (4) final BCS, top 25 teams. The Sugar Bowl victory was so awesome!

    I hope that makes everyone Happy..................but I doubt it will!

  • nosaerfoecioveht NSL, UT
    May 10, 2012 1:53 p.m.

    @112 Pack,

    I actually hadn't noticed that, glad you pointed that out. I agree that Utah's beat down of Alabama in the Sugar Bowl, capping an undefeated season against quality opponents, was the greatest accomplishment of any team in our state, ever. I also agree that BYU's undefeated 84 season was a great accomplishment. I thing you have the order about right.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    May 10, 2012 5:51 p.m.

    I don't even know why Jimmer would be a choice. Andrew Bogut won all the awards Jimmer won and was the #1 overall pick of the NBA, and I wouldn't even put Bogut as a choice for Utah's top sports moments.

    Now, if you put Bogut and Alex Smith both being taken as #1 picks by their respective sports, something NO other school in history has done, I would accept that as a choice. Still not better than the Olympics, but lightyears above Jimmer.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    May 10, 2012 5:56 p.m.

    Of course, Lonster has a point - how can you beat the Big Z/Ron Boone freight train?

  • billybubba South Jordan, UT
    May 11, 2012 6:36 a.m.

    It would be Wise not to over look the Stars

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    May 12, 2012 9:01 a.m.

    This is about sports "moments" so I'm not sure about the olympics being the best moment although I definately think it was the biggest, and most important, sporting event in the history of the state. Next would have to be BYU's Football National Championship. Deride it all you want utah "fans" but winning the National Championship in football, the biggest prize in college sports, is bigger than anything else ever done in college sports in this state. It was a great moment.

    It is still talked about, for good or bad, and probably always will be. All other college athletic moments in this state are only even discussed by arguing fans of the two schools. BYU's National Championship is a nation wide discussion point to this day.

  • BigCougar Bountiful, UT
    May 13, 2012 3:29 a.m.

    @nosaerfoecioveht

    "They didn't play a single ranked team. Even in the "championship game."

    Fact Checker: Pitt was the #3 ranked team in the country and BYU beat them on the road. Also, the Holiday Bowl committee tried to get a top 10 program to play BYU and was turned down by 7 highly ranked teams (including the #2 Washington Huskies and #4 Boston College).

    In hindsight it looks pretty clear that schools like Washington and BC were afraid to play BYU and lose and preferred to instead whine and complain afterwards.

    Ironically, BYU played Boston College in the Kickoff Classic to start the 1985 season and beat them 28-14 and followed that up by beating the Washington Huskies shortly after that 31-3. Not much to whine and complain about after that.

  • BigCougar Bountiful, UT
    May 13, 2012 3:34 a.m.

    @Duckhunter
    "It is still talked about, for good or bad, and probably always will be. All other college athletic moments in this state are only even discussed by arguing fans of the two schools. BYU's National Championship is a nation wide discussion point to this day."

    Which is why I think BYU's National Championship is a bigger deal than the Olympics. Nobody talks about the Olympics anymore and 90% couldn't even remember anything in particular regarding the individual events and the winners. Yet like you said for good or bad fans still talk about BYU's National Championship still today and not just within the state of Utah either.

    How big of an all-time moment is it if nobody talks about it or can remember anything salient about it?

  • BigCougar Bountiful, UT
    May 13, 2012 3:47 a.m.

    @VegasUte
    "I don't even know why Jimmer would be a choice. Andrew Bogut won all the awards Jimmer won and was the #1 overall pick of the NBA, and I wouldn't even put Bogut as a choice for Utah's top sports moments."

    It's probably because the year Bogut did it, it was a really weak year for POY candidates in Div 1 and he was the default winner and probably the weakest #1 pick in quite a few years. Also, because he played for the utes, he played in relative obscurity and the UofU did a horrible job (as usual) of promoting him on a national level. Nobody really knew who he was and he didn't do anything really remarkable.

    Had he come out in the draft this past year he would've been lucky to have been picked in the top 10.

    Jimmer OTOH was a national sensation and a nightly fixture on ESPN Sportscenter highlights, in high demand for interviews, and expanded the English lexicon by adding the verb "Jimmer" in all of it's forms (Jimmer, Jimmered, Jimmermania, etc).

  • nosaerfoecioveht NSL, UT
    May 13, 2012 11:05 a.m.

    @Bigcouger

    "Fact Checker: Pitt was the #3 ranked team in the country and BYU beat them on the road."

    Fact Checker: If you consult a calendar you will notice it is no longer pre-season 1984. This means we actually know exactly where that Pitt team ranked among the top 25 that year: no where. They won 3 games, and lost seven.

    It's great that BYU went undefeated that year. You just need to acknowledge that they did it without beating a single team who was considered to even be among the 20 best in the sport at the time. It is extremely rare in any college sport for a team to be considered a 'national champion' without even having to prove themselves once against any of the top competition. This is why it's controversial.

  • BigCougar Bountiful, UT
    May 14, 2012 2:00 p.m.

    @Nosferatu

    You said: "They didn't play a single ranked team. Even in the "championship game." that's what I was going off of. You can turn it and say that they didn't play a team that finished the season in the top 25 and then that would be true.

    The kicker is you want to use today's standard for judging a National Championship and roll it back to apply it to 1984 when that wasn't the standard they used then. Should we then take Utah's 1944 NCAA Championship in basketball and say it's invalid because if they had played in today's tournament they would get crushed and wouldn't even qualify for the tourney?

    Teams fluctuate over the course of a season and some get stronger and more united while others lose their edge and get worse, they never stay exactly the same week to week. Should we invalidate Utah's Sugar Bowl win over 'Bama because the Tide was depressed and lethargic after losing their shot at a NC when they lost to Florida and you didn't play them when they were undefeated and on top of the world? (cont)

  • BigCougar Bountiful, UT
    May 14, 2012 2:23 p.m.

    @Nosferatu
    (-cont)
    The standard in 1984 was finish with the best record and get the most votes in the Polls by the sportswriters, coaches, etc. If all those sportswriters and coaches didn't think BYU was the best team they all could have voted for the Washington Huskies. Both the AP and the Coaches Polls voted BYU #1.

    The Huskies and 6 other nationally ranked teams had a chance to play BYU in the Holiday Bowl that year and they all balked at it. 7 ranked teams had the chance in the last game to end the debate and they ran away. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Teams can't refuse to play a team and then later hold that against them.

    ute fans (aka BYU haters) are just going to have to get over their hatred.