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  • dutgut Saint George, UT
    April 30, 2012 2:17 p.m.

    Can we please stop comparing everyone and everything to Jimmer? Nick Emery will never be Jimmer. He may end up being better than Jimmer but let's understand that Jimmer Mania was a very unique situation. Even if Nick ends up being better, the odds of sweeping the country again with Jimmeresque mania will not happen again. "You got Nickered" just doesn't have the same ring.
    Let's stop putting so much pressure on these young guys with too high of expectations too soon.

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    April 30, 2012 2:53 p.m.

    Who was the next Ainge, Van Horn, Miller?

    Agree with Dutgut.

    Jimmermania was fun. It's over. Move on.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    April 30, 2012 3:02 p.m.

    The future looks bright for BYU basketball! I haven't seen Nick play, but I have a few friends who have seen him play. Here's some adjectives that they use to describe his game - efficient, accurate, sound, and some have even said amazing.

    It's great to be the team down South.

  • UU32 Bountiful, UT
    April 30, 2012 4:50 p.m.

    However good Nick is, the Haws kid a year behind him is even better. BYU will have good basketball for a while. Coach Rose is the perfect guy for the job in Provo.

  • adelman provo, UT
    April 30, 2012 4:56 p.m.

    Efficient, no. Sound, no. Unless you think launching 5-10 30 footers per game is an efficient and fundamentally sound way to score. He is a good player, has A TON of talent, but he can lose a game for team just as easily as he can win it. I just wish he would try to improve his floor game (bball IQ, passing). If he can, he could be a great player for BYU.

  • Riddles in the Dark Olympus Cove, Utah
    April 30, 2012 5:06 p.m.

    Let the jealous rants from our Dixie friend and his buddies on the hill begin.

    Even if Nick only turns out to be as good as his big brother, he'll be something special, but having seen Nick play many times, comparisons to Jimmer may be closer to the truth. One thing we do know is BYU's underclassmen commits Nick Emery and TJ Haws schooled Utah commit Jordan Loveridge in the Utah 5A State Championship Playoffs.

  • Hatch Sandy, UT
    April 30, 2012 7:01 p.m.

    @Dutgut...totally agree!!!

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    April 30, 2012 7:44 p.m.

    How many years has Michael Jordan been retired? Any yet the comparisons continue.

    Please save your energy - I'm not saying Jimmer is in the same conversation as Michael Jordan.

    But just like Michael Jordan is one of the best NBA players of all time, Jimmer is one of the best BYU players of all time. I hope to continue to read about him for the next decade.

    And if you don't like reading about Jimmer and Emery and all the other great basketball stars that BYU has in the pipeline, don't click BYU Sports - stick with Utah Sports and join the debate as to whether this was the worst Ute basketball team of all team.

    Personally, I'm still a huge Jimmer fan. In fact, I just might order a pair of Jimmer's new shoes. They could be my first pair of Spaldings.

  • Rockwell Baltimore, MD
    April 30, 2012 7:45 p.m.

    Rising stars are always compared to the greats that preceded them.

    Sarkisian was compared to Detmer was compared to Bosco was compared to Young was compared to McMahon was compared to Wilson was compared to Nielson was compared to Shiede.

    Jimmer was compared to Ainge.

    Some live up to their hype. Some exceed it. Some fall short.

    There's nothing wrong with using comparisons until a player has established his own identity.

    In fact, the greats relish the opportunity to be measured against the greats that preceeded them.

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum Dallas, TX
    April 30, 2012 8:38 p.m.

    I think it is hilarious the continual hype over James Fredette. Fredette will be out of the NBA after his rookie contract expires next year. He is pathetic, plays no D whatsoever and shoots 38%.

    BYU basketball has always been a joke on the national stage. Their last 11 appearances in the NCCA tourney NYU has lost in the first round 9 times. And, have only recorded 3 wins, other than the ridiculous "play-in" game against lowly Iona, which was a miracle win at best. The only great bball player to play at BYU was Kresimir Cosic. BYU fans ALWAYS need something to cheer for..........?

    By the way, the greatest player to ever play college hoops in Utah was Utah's Billy McGill........hands down, the best by far! His stats make Fredette look like a junior HS cager.

  • PAC man Anaheim, CA
    April 30, 2012 10:32 p.m.

    I thinks it is hillarious that BYU-obsessed haters continue to cling to the desperate belief that a less than stellar career in the NBA will somehow detract from Jimmer's outstanding college career.

    The only joke here is jealous Utah fans deluding themselves into believing that the rundown Utes are something more than an utter embarrassment to their new conference.

    Jimmer was the CONCENSUS NATIONAL PLAYER OF THE YEAR, winning the Naismith, AP, Adolph Rupp, John R. Wooden, Oscar Robertson, and NABC National Player of the Year Awards, one of only 20 players in college basketball history to win all six awards.

    Billy McGill, the "greatest basketball player in Utah history," didn't win a single national award and only lasted three years in the NBA.

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum Dallas, TX
    April 30, 2012 10:39 p.m.

    James Fredette won't be in the NBA after next year. Mark it! He is way too slow for that league!

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum Dallas, TX
    April 30, 2012 10:50 p.m.

    James Fredette = Adam Morrison = eastern Europe league

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    April 30, 2012 11:06 p.m.

    Utah-Hawaii Alum

    That's laughable coming from someone who claimed that Jimmer would never even be drafted into, let play in, the NBA.

  • Marked it Down Park City, UT
    April 30, 2012 11:24 p.m.

    Utah-Hawaii Alum

    More lame predictions from the "fan" who claimed that Jimmer would never be drafted by the NBA?

    No worries, Jimmer's 32-point first half, culminating in his 40-foot buzzer-beater will forever be a Huntsman Center classic. At least U were fortunate enough to be included in Jimmer's highlight reel.

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum Dallas, TX
    April 30, 2012 11:26 p.m.

    I never said that James Fredette wouldn't be drafted!!!! I have said he'll never make it in the NBA........which is true. He is awful in the NBA.

  • Jenny83 OGDEN, UT
    May 1, 2012 12:18 a.m.

    Jimmer was terrible this year, there is no doubt about that.

  • DC Alexandria, VA
    May 1, 2012 6:00 a.m.

    Any idea how many years it took for people to stop asking if so and so is the next Danny Ainge? No one will be the next Jimmer.

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum Dallas, TX
    May 1, 2012 6:57 a.m.

    Billy McGill was a three time all-American, 1st pick in the NBA draft, who averaged 38.8 ppg(led the nation), 15 rpg his senior year at Utah. Those stats are very impressive considering there was no 3-point line or shot clock in 1962-3. And just for giggles Y fans...... he threw down 60 points at BYU that season! Cheers!

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum Dallas, TX
    May 1, 2012 7:38 a.m.

    Please excuse my 1962-3 error. I meant 1961-2. Just to add to my Billy McGill claims..........he also led Utah to a final 4 his junior year, a sweet 16 as a sophomore and shot 56% from the field as a senior..........now Y fans, please compare James Taft Fredette's stats against Billy "The Hill" McGill..............crickets?????

  • WON84 PLANO, TX
    May 1, 2012 9:03 a.m.

    "Please excuse my 1962-3 error. I meant 1961-2. Just to add to my Billy McGill claims..........he also led Utah to a final 4 his junior year, a sweet 16 as a sophomore and shot 56% from the field as a senior..........now Y fans, please compare James Taft Fredette's stats against Billy "The Hill" McGill..............crickets?????"

    Utah-Hawaii Alum, yeah, I'd say there are crickets when you are going back fifty years to try and substantiate a claim against Jimmer. Furthermore, I believe this was around the time BYU won the NIT, or the equivalent of today's NCAA Tournament but, we'll leave that out of the Billy Hill or whoever that is claims...

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    May 1, 2012 1:26 p.m.

    Boy, complain about Y fans having their heads stuck in ancient history!

    Seriously, McGill sounds like if he wasn't player of the year, I'd like to know who was.

    But it doesn't make Jimmer a bad college player, or even a bad NBA player. To those predicting the early demise of Jimmer's career, are his numbers that bad? I don't know, I don't care about the NBA, and not much for college basketball except BYU. So there are no other bench players with numbers like his, he is the absolute worst in the NBA?

    Just sayin' cuz you can be 8th or 9th off the bench for a lot of years, can't you?

    Personally, y've watched him take on a lot of obstacles and overcome them with pure plain hard work. I'm not willing to count him out yet.

  • deductive reasoning Arlington, VA
    May 1, 2012 5:12 p.m.

    Utah-Hawaii Alum

    Not saying that McGill wasn't a very good player, but a little perspective:

    There were only 24 teams in the 1961 NCAA tournament and the Utes were seeded into the 2nd round, meaning Utah only had to beat Loyola-CA 91-75 and Arizona State 88-80 to get to the Final Four, where the Utes lost to Cinncinati 82-67 AND to St. Joseph's 127-120 in four overtimes.

    Utah finished 2-2 in the 1961 NCAA tournament.
    BYU finished 2-1 in the 2011 NCAA tournament.

    btw, Jerry Lucas of Ohio State won both National Player of the Year awards in 1961.

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum Dallas, TX
    May 1, 2012 5:26 p.m.

    Sorry for the "ancient history" Y fans.......but it was 30 years ago since BYU produced a legit starting QB in the NFL, Steve Young. The only college athletes that were alive when BYU won their bogus NC in 1984 are at BYU. Please rationalize James Taft Fredette vs Billy "The Hill" McGill's stats......so I can laugh some more........and please let's talk about BYU's NCAA tourney record. Or, Lavelle Edward's bowl record.......that would be fun as well.

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    May 1, 2012 5:47 p.m.

    Utah-Hawaii Alum

    Sorry to burst your jealous little crimson bubble, but BYU's 1984 CONCENSUS National Championship was just as legitimate as any national championship.

    After having over a month to carefully evaluate BYU's record against every other contender, ALL FIVE MAJOR national organizations selected BYU as the 1984 National Champions.

    Feel free to give us your best argument for why any of the other contenders should have been chosen over BYU, and I'll be very happy to shoot your argument full of holes.

    As far as BYU's and LaVell's bowl record, it's a product of consistently playing Top 25 teams in bowls, rather than the patsies Utah has played.

    Remind us again how many of Utah's bowl opponents finished the season ranked in the Final Top 25 in both polls.

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum Dallas, TX
    May 1, 2012 6:01 p.m.

    And exactly how many 1st round draft picks has BYU had in the NBA or NFL.......1, James Taft Fredette 10th pick. Utah has had many, including 2005......when Utah, the only school in NCAA history that had the 1st overall picks in both drafts.......Andrew Bogut and Alex Smith. JT Fredette will be playing in Slovakia after next season folks!

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum Dallas, TX
    May 1, 2012 6:10 p.m.

    Since when has BYU beaten a top 25 team in a bowl? Utah pounded top ranked Alabama, coached by the legend Nick Saban 3 years ago no less. BYU's "BOGUS" 1984 NC is regarded as the greatest atrocity in college football history, according to ESPN. That was a great show they produced a few years ago by the way, documenting that bizarre aberration.

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    May 1, 2012 8:31 p.m.

    Utah-Hawaii Alum

    "Utah, the only school in NCAA history that had the 1st overall picks in both drafts."

    ***yawn***

    What trophy do you get for that?

    Exactly how many Utah players have...

    -- won national individual awards?

    -- been an NFL or Super Bowl MVP?

    -- won a Heisman Trophy?

    -- won all SIX major National Player of the Year Awards -- AP, NABC, Naismith, John R. Wooden, Oscar Robertson, and Adolph Rupp?

    -- beem named to the National College Football Hall of Fame?

    -- beaten the #1-ranked, defending National Champions?

    The cumulative answer, of course, is...

    ZERO!!!

    Bowl Opponents Ranked in the Final Top 25 in Both Polls
    BYU - 16
    Utah - 4

    "BYU's 1984 NC is regarded as the greatest atrocity in college football history, according to ESPN."

    lol

    Cite the names and the exact quote from the ESPN panel of experts who came to this conclusion.

    You still dodged the challenge to give me your best argument for why any of the other contenders should have been chosen over BYU, and I'll be very happy to shoot your argument full of holes.

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum Dallas, TX
    May 1, 2012 9:23 p.m.

    @ Snack PAC, and yet nobody wants BYU. Enjoy your goofy WAC football team before ESPN cancels the contract and then the fellows that own BYU in SLC will shut the program down. It will happen.......trust me.

    And by the way, enjoy that road trip to Las Cruces during rivalry week............maybe you can look for some UFOs while you are there? Cheers!

  • phoenix Gilbert, AZ
    May 1, 2012 11:08 p.m.

    Utah-Hawaii Alum

    U would know all about UFOs and Las Cruces, wouldn't you? After all, U drove right past them on your way to El Paso.

    Oh wait, after all of the hype about the "prestigious" Sun Bowl, U didn't even go to the game, did you?

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum Dallas, TX
    May 2, 2012 6:58 a.m.

    @Phoenix,

    Enjoy your stay in La Cruces sir. I will be headed to fun fun fun Boulder that week to play our rival......Colorado. Cheers!

    Also, I hope you appreciate Chris Hill scheduling BYU for our last "warm-up" game this season.........because it will be the last for quite a while I believe. I'm actually glad to see Utah scheduling USU in the years to come, the 2nd best program in Utah. They actually worry me a bit. BYU doesn't in the least. And, USC will be at RES!!!!!! Ya gotta love it baby! Goooooo Utes!

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    May 2, 2012 9:19 a.m.

    Utah Hawaii Alum

    Title of Article:
    'BYU basketball: Could Nick Emery be the next Jimmer?'

    Wow, so you think Billy McGill is going to be the next Jimmer?

    That's weird.

  • billybubba South Jordan, UT
    May 2, 2012 9:31 a.m.

    What’s funny is this article was a pick up from NBCsports not local so where is it that local media or fans are comparing Emery to Jimmer?

    Reread the first line dutgut and utahawlum.

    I am not old enough to remember McGill but I do remember the great teams of the Vranes , Chambers, Angie and Kite years now those where fun years to watch Utah/BYU basketball.

    But the most fun was watching Kresimir Cosic and yes before anyone says anything no he never played in the NBA but he was great fun to watch.

    Both schools have had their bad years but both have had great years so I will go on cheering for BYU in football and basketball and follow the Utes in football and basketball.

    Also I am pretty sure I will not see another Jimmer at BYU because he has moved on and the next great BYU or Utah player will be whoever they are be it Loveridge or Emery their story has not been written.

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum Dallas, TX
    May 2, 2012 10:49 a.m.

    @ Veritas, Billy McGill eclipsed anything that JT Fredette ever did, or any other player that played at BYU. That is a fact. Fredette was never a Billy McGill in any fashion. Look at the stats bro!

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum Dallas, TX
    May 2, 2012 11:01 a.m.

    @ Billybubba, I saw Kresimir Cosic play when I was a lil' boy. He was a superstar. Kresimir was freak'n MONEY!!!!!!!! Vranes and Chambers were unreal as well! Cosic was an assist "KING" as well, although they didn't keep assist stats in that era. James Fredette is a zero in the NBA! He is not even comparable to Billy McGill in any fashion, as it relates to college ball. I watched OLD Andre Miller torch James Taft Fredette twice this season. Fredette will be either in Slovakia, or back at BYU to have people kiss his sneakers for $5/a pop after his rookie contract expires next year.

  • billybubba South Jordan, UT
    May 2, 2012 11:32 a.m.

    Wow Utah-Hawaii Alum have you got issues calm down and go take your Prozac.

    What I said was this article came from NBCsports and was reprinted.

    I have and never will say that Fredette was going to be good in the NBA serviceable maybe great never.

    I also never compared him to McGill or another player.

    If you missed understood what I said let me clarify it for you

    Jimmer is gone to where ever his career will take him for now it is the NBA/Kings there will not be another Jimmer at BYU unless somebody names their kid that and he happens to play basketball at BYU.

    And I look forward to the next solid if not great players to put on the unis at the two schools

  • billybubba South Jordan, UT
    May 2, 2012 11:37 a.m.

    @ Utah-Hawaii Alum does it hurt that much to give a complement to BYU yes you did talk about Cosic but the Angie teams at BYU as good as the Vranes and Chambers teams. I have been a BYU fan for as long as I can remember but will always give props to the UofU and USU unless I am ticked off or just trying to act like you

  • billybubba South Jordan, UT
    May 2, 2012 11:52 a.m.

    sorry dang auto correct i was talking about Aingemy bad

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    May 2, 2012 6:56 p.m.

    Utah-Hawaii Alum

    "Enjoy your stay in La Cruces sir. I will be headed to fun fun fun Boulder that week to play our rival......Colorado. Cheers!"

    You obviously haven't been to Boulder if you think it's "fun fun fun". Trust me, having lived between Boulder and Fort Collins for several years, Boulder is nothing more than a yupi version of redneck Fort Collins.

    The only reason Chris Hill would drop BYU from his "warmup" schedule is because he's scared to death that he's bitten off more than the Utes can chew and losing to OOC BYU would kill Utah's bowl chances.

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum Dallas, TX
    May 2, 2012 9:01 p.m.

    @ SportsFan, I've been to fun fun fun Boulder, CO many times. The only time I ever hung in Utah County was when I hunted ducks, geese and pheasants........and occasionally bought gasoline.

  • Y's little brother The Hill, UT
    May 2, 2012 9:45 p.m.

    Utah-Hawaii Alum

    You're quite a hoot with your lame trash talking, but that's okay, we understand why completely ignore the current rundown Utes, but here's a little reminder:

    BYU 2011-12 (26-9) BYU's 6th straight 25+ win season and 6th straight NCAA tournament
    #45 RPI, 13th scoring, 21st rebounding, 6th assists, 43rd FG%

    Utah 2011-12 (6-25) Utah's 5th losing season in the last 7 years
    #274 RPI, 339th scoring, 337th rebounding, 325th assists, 304th FG%

    BYU may play in some smaller gyms in the WCC, but those gyms are in Malibu, San Francisco, Portland, Los Angeles, and San Diego, and lets not forget that half of BYU's WCC games are played in a 23,000 seat arena.

    btw, Utah's average home attendance last season would have quite easily into the smallest of the WCC gyms.

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum Dallas, TX
    May 2, 2012 10:11 p.m.

    BYU is old news folks! Utah is in the big time now. Nobody will give BYU the time of day.......do you blame them?

  • Y's little brother The Hill, UT
    May 2, 2012 10:40 p.m.

    Utah-Hawaii Alum

    "BYU is old news folks!"

    Which of course explains your obsession with all things BYU and why you've posted a gazillion comments on BYU articles in just the last couple of days!

    It's laughable, and a little bit sad, that someone would spend so much time trying to prove that thing they're obsessed with, is irrelevant.

    At least we can count on you tuning in to BYU's weekly nationally televised games this fall.

    Enjoy!

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    May 2, 2012 11:16 p.m.

    Utah-Hawaii Alum

    BYU old news?

    Sorry bud, but you need to wake up and smell the coffee! Even folks back East who are totally unconnected to BYU are already comparing a rising future BYU star to last year's concensus National Player of the Year.

    But, of course, we need to acknowledge the, um, running? Utes, who, um, ...

    remind us, how long has it been since Utah won an NCAA tourney game?

    Anyways, the Utes once had a player, way back before the WAC existed, that was a pretty good scorer, and was supposedly the greatest player in the history of basketball, even though he didn't win a single national player of the year award and had an unremarkable 3-year NBA career.

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum Dallas, TX
    May 3, 2012 9:07 a.m.

    Additionally, BYU will NEVER play in the final 4 or a BCS game. Painful, I know.

  • WON84 PLANO, TX
    May 3, 2012 10:16 a.m.

    "Utah-Hawaii Alum
    Dallas, TX
    Additionally, BYU will NEVER play in the final 4 or a BCS game. Painful, I know."

    Yep, kind of like Jimmer would never get drafted.

    Two years ago BYU lost an OT game that would have sent them to the Elite 8. Sure, Final Four was two more wins but, with Davies in the middle a title would have been quite possible. I wouldn't go making the Final Four bet (against BYU) so long as Dave Rose is BYU's coach either.

    There is no telling what will come of the BCS. If AQ status stays in place they will likely need to run the table but, they have done it before. It also seems the centerpiece to your existence is the BCS and AQ status. That's no way to live.

    Go have a beer. Go meet a girl. I promise there is more to life than following BYU, bro.

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum Dallas, TX
    May 3, 2012 10:45 a.m.

    @ Won84, the "truth" is that BYU will never appear in the final 4, or play in an important football game at the end of the season EVER again. BYU CANNOT get the great athletes to attend there. They may score one or two, but that is about it, at best. Enjoy!

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum Dallas, TX
    May 3, 2012 10:48 a.m.

    @ Won84, I said James Fredette would never make it in the NBA. And, he will be gone after his rookie contract expires. He can't play NBA at ALL!

  • billybubba South Jordan, UT
    May 3, 2012 12:47 p.m.

    @Utah-Hawaii Alum

    You are good 20 out of 50 comments and counting not bad for something that does not matter to you

  • Jeff29 Cedar City, UT
    May 4, 2012 9:28 a.m.

    @Utah-Hawaii Alum,

    Utah fans are constantly criticizing BYU fans for bringing up the 1984 National Championship, and your going to reach back to 1962? Really? 50 years?

  • junkmail Salt Lake City, UT
    May 4, 2012 10:12 a.m.

    Utah-Hawaii Alum says, "Nobody will give BYU the time of day..."

    Except, apparently, Utah-Hawaii Alum, who spends all day talking about BYU

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    May 4, 2012 7:30 p.m.

    Hawaii dude

    "BYU will never appear in the final 4, or play in an important football game at the end of the season EVER again."

    A bold statement from a fan of a program that's NEVER played in an important football game at the end of the season EVER.

    Until you have a Heisman Trophy AND a Crystal Football Trophy sitting in your trophy case, you should lay off the idle talk about "AGAIN".

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum Dallas, TX
    May 5, 2012 11:22 a.m.

    Undefeated Utah vs 12-1 SEC Alabama in 2008-9 in the BCS Sugar Bowl..............who stomped Alabama? We know ................BYU has NEVER played in a game like that, and never will. BYU is old news folks! And, Utah has played in 4 NCAA final 4s..........BYU will never see a final 4 ever!!!!

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum Dallas, TX
    May 5, 2012 12:02 p.m.

    Has BYU ever had a first pick in any draft...........NOTTA! Has BYU ever had an African American play in the NBA........NOTTA!

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum Dallas, TX
    May 5, 2012 12:36 p.m.

    I'm so honored that my undergraduate degree came from Utah. I'm very proud that my MBA came from Hawaii. Two great schools that look at EVERYONE as an equal. BYU is not liked for a myriad of reasons.........and I agree wholeheartedly folks!

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    May 5, 2012 4:22 p.m.

    Utah-Hawaii Alum

    "Undefeated Utah vs 12-1 SEC Alabama in 2008-9 in the BCS Sugar Bowl"

    The 2009 Sugar Bowl wasn't anymore important than any other bowl that year, a bit more interesting, perhaps, but on a national scale, it didn't mean a thing; Utah finished 2nd and 4th, disinterested Alabama finished 6th. The ONLY game that really matters anymore is the BcS championship game, which will soon be replaced by a playoff.

    BYU, on the other hand has played in TWO significantly MORE IMPORTANT games than that:

    The 1984 Holiday Bowl, which decided the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

    The 1990 #1 Miami vs #16 BYU game, which launched Ty Detmer's Heisman Trophy-winning campaign.

    National Championships and Heisman Trophies are the pinnacles of major college football, the awards that separate the elite programs from the pretenders.

    Miami 1990, btw, finished #3 in the final polls, more than 30 year later, still higher than ANY team Utah has ever beaten.

    Utah's wishful thinking is BYU's reality.

    Call us when you have a Stiff Arm Trophy or Crystal Football Trophy in your trophy case.

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum Dallas, TX
    May 5, 2012 5:02 p.m.

    @ Snack PAC, you are the quintessential reason why everyone despises BYU. Every game, America's favorite team is ALWAYS BYU's opponent. That FACT will never change, nor dissipate sir. BYU is in big trouble.........I hope they are gone sooner than later. Cheers sir!

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum Dallas, TX
    May 5, 2012 5:15 p.m.

    BYU barely beat Bo Schembechler's worst squad during his tenure at Michigan, and, they were so injury-riddled it was a crime in 1984. That same season BYU beat lowly Wyoming 41-38 at home, and squeaked by Hawaii. BYU beat no team that was ranked, or even close. BYU cannot beat a good team in the 21st century, a fact. They have only one NFL caliber athlete on their whole team currently......Kyle Van Noy. Utah will CRUSH BYU again this year.......Utah is dangerous AGAIN this year!!!!!!!! Go Utes!

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum Dallas, TX
    May 5, 2012 5:57 p.m.

    BYU was GREAT in 1990. They beat Miami 28-21 at HOME. But, lost at Oregon 16-32, crushed by Hawaii 28-59, and crucified by Texas A&M 14-65 in the Holiday Bowl................Impressive BYU!

  • TheSportsAuthority Arlington, VA
    May 5, 2012 10:37 p.m.

    "Snack PAC, you are the quintessential reason why everyone despises BYU."

    EVERYONE???

    Sounds more like one jealous fan's personal issue to me.

    The Cougars may have lost to the Ducks, the Warriors and the Aggies (a game in which Detmer suffered TWO shoulder separations), but the Cougars still managed to beat the defending national champion, #1-ranked team in the country, certainly more impressive than anything Utah has even done.

    BYU's 10-3 1990 record was good enough to finish 17th in the Coaches poll, better than all but four teams in Utah history,

    and

    the Cougars did manage to beat the Utes in SLC 45-22.

    btw, BYU was 9-1, with a win over #1-ranked Miami and their lone loss on the road to Oregon(8-4), the night Detmer was awarded the Heisman Trophy.

    Let see if your "dangerous" team can avoid being beaten by another 10-loss team this year.

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum Dallas, TX
    May 6, 2012 10:20 a.m.

    @ TheSportsAuthority,

    I'm far more worried about the game at Utah State, than the perennial cupcake BYU showing up at RES on 9-15-12. Utah will pound BYU again, and ya know it! Utah is so loaded this year.......and have great coaches. I don't think lowly BYU will score against Utah unless there is some unforeseen turnover in Utah territory. Utah is gonna cream BYU again!

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    May 6, 2012 1:06 p.m.

    Your "great" coaches couldn't even beat lowly Colorado(3-10), barely beat Washington State(4-8) in OT, and barely beat the #56 team in the country in their bowl. The only reason the Utes have any chance at all against the Cougars in September is because Utah has never gotten over their little brother syndrone of playing BYU like it's their bowl game.

    btw, I noticed you're completely ignoring the real subject of this BYU basketball article - not surprising considering that trainwreck on the hill.

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum Dallas, TX
    May 6, 2012 2:38 p.m.

    @ SportsFan,

    I suggest you worry about NMSU this year. We'll worry about CU sir. You'll get brutalized again by Utah. And, I'll relish every second of that game on 9-15-12 as the mighty Utes will dismantle the lowly Cougars once again. BYU stands no competing in that contest, let alone winning. Then, Utah won't schedule BYU for quite a while. Enjoy reality sir, when you "choose" to recognize it? That is always a mystery, isn't it? Goooooooo Utes!

  • MJB Tooele, UT
    May 7, 2012 2:07 p.m.

    I thought this is supposed to be an article about Nick Emery. Why is ther so much talk about football? We'll have to wait a while before we see Nick in a cougar's uniform. Let's see what he can do his senior year before we start comparing him to past players.

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum Dallas, TX
    May 7, 2012 4:59 p.m.

    Emery is just another "golden calf" from BYU lore that will never make it in the NBA. Heck, Ainge played with four first ballot hall of famers on the Boston Celtics.........He was "money" for Sacramento......just like J Taft Fredette.........NOTTA!

  • Marked it Down Park City, UT
    May 8, 2012 6:49 a.m.

    Utah-Hawaii Alum

    Emery is just another BYU player that the Utes would give their eye-teeth to have playing for them; sadly for the rundown Utes, players as good as Emery, Haws, and Jimmer have ZERO interest in being part of that smouldering ruin on the hill.

    As sophmores/juniors, Emery and Haws schooled senior Jordan.

    Get used to it!