Seems like it's not really Utah's place to have decision making power
over a proposed National Monument in another state.
Never trust the feds, especially in an election year, when they have a chance to
pander to environmental extremists, and undercut the traditional freedom loving
western culture.That makes a pretty good justification for Utah
getting involved, even if it is in an adjacent state. They deserve our support
to stand up to the bullies.
I've driven through that area dozens of times, and it is truly spectacular.
I'd much rather see the natural beauty of the area preserved- as opposed
to another mud pit like Kennecott. I guess that makes me a freedom hating
bully. I'm not opposed to the ranchers using the land though- if there is
a way to make that provision.
Wilderness for votes. No one really cares where the money to keep people out
will come from. How will we pay for policing? How will we maintain roads for
those who own private land out on the Arizona Strip? Make it a monument and you
have to provide facilities. Arizona Officials have to live in St George to cover
the strip. Can you not see that this will be a disaster for Utah. We have to
provide the emergency response teams and care. People who have no idea how
remote and unforgiving the land is will be stupid, just like on the Swell.
Thinking it is a park they will get lost, sick and injured. Utah will have
provide the policing, the search and rescue, and the care facilities for this
Let the federal government take whatever land they want. It doesn't bother
me, so long as they continue giving me my health care, social security, grants
for education, food stamps, cheap housing and any other freebies I can get my
hands on. I would gladly trade Arizona and Utah land for the
continued benefits of my fellow citizen's labor and income. I get to work
less and I can still meet my wants and needs. This is the new American way and I
like it. Keep up the good work President O!
Only five comments? Its gonna happen again then. Its not Moab so people up north
are oblivious and don't care so it's just going to happen again. To
Cedarite above, your comment just shows how little you know about the area. The
Arizona Strip is cut off from the rest of Arizona by the Grand Canyon. The area
means more now and means more historically to the people living in Southern Utah
than it does to the rest of Arizona. It's people from Southern Utah and the
small town of Fredonia, AZ (less than 1,000 people) that used to log in the
area, used to mine in the area, ranch in the area, play in the area, etc. This
is peoples lives. Its families losing their ranches and jobs as well as their
ways of life and identity.
And to 'flynn is the coolest', it was beautiful when you drove through
it right? Who is keeping it that way? It's the people who work and play and
live in that area, not the feds. It is already being preserved and giving back
to the people who live in the area and love the area. If it were to be locked up
it would only be taking tax money and education money and not giving back at
all, and in return would be less preserved just like happened with the Grand
Re: "Enviro groups push national monument for Arizona strip"You can count on it happening.The radical Obama crowd will feel
obligated to suck up to its radical base, and buy a few clueless tree hugger
votes in the bargain, risking very little in the re-election bid, since those
alienated by this cynical, partisan ploy were unlikely to vote for him
anyway.Small political advantage, small political risk? What would
stop them? Certainly not the best interests of the region and Nation, sane
energy or land-use policy, or alienating a few million unsupportive -- hence
unimportant -- people in flyover country.Here's hoping
President Romney will have the guts to add this liberal political trick to the
list of unconstitutional, ill-conceived, and harmful Obama political payola
scams he'll reverse on his first day in office.
Memo to Senator Hatch: Not everyone in Utah is against this proposal. I, for
example, am in favor of it. Before you spout off about everyone being either
for or against something, you should be sure. Your constant hyperbole is
More of Obama's take from those who work hard, pay for it with somebody
else's money, punish anybody who doesn't agree with him. The area is
being managed very well right now under the current agreement: Ranchers, miners,
recreationists...it's beautiful and functional. Nobody who has ever been
there would think to make it a monument. This is Chicago politics at its worst.
Uproot the lives of good, honest people for political gain. If he really wants
to make a monumental statement, how about he start in his own backyard. The
Washington Mall is a mess, weeds, poorly cared for lawns, graffiti on the
symbols of our freedom...but of course that wouldn't buy him any votes.
From the map it appears the monument is in Arizona. I think Utah's
politicians should mind their own business. And if it makes them feel better,
maybe Obama could go to Kanab and sign the documents there, you know, pay back
for Clinton not signing in Utah for the Grand Staircase...
A few posters think that a monument designation would be beneficial, but most
who have commented know from having traveled there or living in the area that it
is being well managed by those who ranch there or have other small things going
that do not damage the terrain. Federal control is not a good idea.
ColtenJohnson, hynm to the silent and others have expressed well why this is a
dirty scheme on the part of those who have no ties to the area.
This is a beautiful area and important wildlife habitat that deserves national
monument designation. Obama could do this to mitigate his horrible
environmental record but I'll vote for Rocky Anderson anyway. Stop the
I'm glad that the DN encourages civil discourse, because this is something
that can cause real bad feelings. Having watched the federal government lockup
more land in southern Utah than the entire state of Rhode Island says something
about the rights of the state of Utah. as was mentioned in another post, I wish
they would lock up this much land in one of the democratic states east of the
Mississippi and see who would scream then.
Thanks for the article, but I would really appreciate if the article included a
map showing each of the areas (maybe color coded) that is discussed.
I talked to a friend whose family owns a Utah cabin in the designated area. He
said they suddenly received a letter stating that the land their family had
owned for generations was being taken by the Federal government. They're
extremely upset. He wasn't sure how the law worked or if
"compensation" would be offered or any of that. But they're not
looking to sell. They appreciated the area and are worried there's just
not enough people living there to make enough noise to stop the new and needless
(and out-of-nowhere) "monument" seizure.
The only difference between this news and The Hunger Games is that in The Hunger
Games, the Capital never annexed District 12.
The article doesn't explain why the monument designation would kill the
Lake Powell pipeline. Does the pipeline route go through Arizona?Senator Hatch has had plenty of time to repeal the Antiquities Act. With all
the years he has spent in the Senate and all the pull and connections he is so
famous for, surely he could have gained support for such a bill by now.