Re: ". . . conduct t a balanced review of the incident, 'instead of
trying to blame it all on Matt.'"Yeah, let's be sure
and balance his marijuana-grow operation, his cold-blooded murder of one
officer, and his attempts to murder several more with . . . what?And
let's be sure and blame . . . who else?The very tactics these
clueless drug promoters complain of are made necessary by their vicious,
drug-cartel-esque sense that the laws of the Nation only apply to others, not to
them.Stewart, alone -- not the law, not police, not decent society
-- is responsible for his arrogant, disregard of the lives of several of
Utah's finest, and he, alone, must bear the burden of proving he should
live, notwithstanding his callous elevation of his vice and illicit business
above the lives and families of his innocent victims.
Unbelieveable. He planned this ambush out. There is no justification for what
he did. I have no issue with those who question the validity of the war on
drugs and the tactics used. That is a different issue.
Wow. I think more people support the family of the injured and slain police
One word. Uneducated
Yes, it was all the police’s fault that Stewart was relentless in firing
on officers that night, continuing to shoot officers after they were down,
firing on officers as they tried to get their wounded brothers out of the house,
and then following the officers even after they had left the house, shooting at
them from his front door into the street. That was all a spur-of-the-moment,
defensive reaction to someone breaking into his drug-store, er, I mean his
History has proven that the war on alcohol was bad legislation. Thankfully, the
end to prohibition pretty much ended unnecessary deaths caused by liquor
drinkers, gangs and police. (Too bad we can't end useless alcohol related
traffic and domestic violence deaths).Now, we must ask ourselves.
Has the time come to consider putting an end to more bad legislation? Is
personal manufacture and consumption of the marijuana plant any more dangerous
than the more fashionable alcohol consumption? Does personal use of MJ really
kill more people than a six pack of Bud? What do the police say? Physicians?
Psychiatrists?I'm not too thrilled when people are in any state
of inebriation regardless of the chemical compound, but if your neighbor feels
the pangs to get high, what difference does it make whether they do so by
acquiring the drug of choice at a 7-11 or harvesting it in their backyard?
John Adams 64 years old:Lebanon, Tennessee: Shot to death during a SWAT drug
raid while watching TV. The house didn’t match the description on the
warrant.Rudolfo “Rudy” Cardenas: Rudy was a father of
five who was passing by a house targeted by narcotics officers attempting to
serve a parole violation warrant and the police mistakenly thought he was the
one they were there to arrest. They chased Cardenas, and he fled, apparently
afraid of them (they were not uniformed). Cardenas was shot multiple times in
the back. Dorothy Duckett, 78, told the Mercury News she looked out her
fifth-floor window after hearing one gunshot and saw Cardenas pleading for his
life. “I watched him running with his hands in the air. He kept saying,
‘Don’t shoot. Don’t shoot,’” Duckett said.
“He had absolutely nothing in his hands.” Annie Rae
Dixon 84 years oldTyler, Texas: Bedridden with pneumonia during a drug raid.
Officer kicked open her bedroom door and accidentally shot her.
Derek Hale:25 years old: Wilmington, Delaware: A retired Marine Sergeant who
served two tours in Iraq, was peacefully sitting on the front stoop of a house,
when police in unmarked cars who had him under surveillance (believing based on
his acquaintances that he might be part of a narcotics ring) pulled up and
tasered him three times, causing him to go into convulsions and throw up.
Because he had not gotten his hand free from his jacket quickly enough (while
convulsing) an officer then shot him point blank in the chest with three .40
caliber rounds. Hale’s widow has filed a civil lawsuit.Willie
Heard 46 years old:Osawatomie, Kansas:SWAT conducted a no-knock drug raid,
complete with flash-bang grenades. Heard was shot to death in front of his wife
and 16-year-old daughter who had cried for help. Fearing home invasion, he was
holding an empty rifle. The raid was at the wrong houseIsmael
Mena:45 years old:Denver, Colorado: Mena was killed when police barged into his
house looking for drugs. They had the wrong address.
Well, Jonathan Eddy and VIDAR, I certainly hope that you believe that the best
way to fight "bad legislation" is not by getting into gunfights with
police officers, as this group seems to think.
Cheryl Noel 44 years old Dunkalk, Maryland: Substitute Sunday School Teacher
Cheryl Noel possessed a registered handgun, which she kept in her bedroom (9
years earlier, Cheryl has lost her 16-year-old stepdaughter in a shooting
murder). On January 19, just before 5 am, police burst into her home using
flash-bang grenade and battering ram looking for drugs. Both Cheryl and her
husband were asleep in the master bedroom. Suddenly awake and fearing an armed
intrusion, Cheryl grabbed her gun. Police kicked in the bedroom door and shot
her 3 times. Deputy Keith Ruiz 36 years old Travis County, Texas: In
the process of serving a drug warrant, he was trying to break down the door to a
mobile home occupied by painter Edwin Delamora, his wife, and two young
children. Confused by the raid at night, Delamora yelled to his wife that they
were being robbed and shot through the door, killing Ruiz. Alberto
Sepulveda 11 years old Modesto, California: Alberto was killed by a shotgun
blast to the back while following police orders and lying face down on the floor
during a SWAT raid. He was a seventh-grader at Prescott Senior Elementary
Stewart's supporters are using this event as a pretext for legalizing drugs
rather than a primary defense of the suspect. Visiting Amsterdam or Vancouver,
BC to see the effects of legalized drugs gives a grim perspective on the
downside of legalization. Either option carries significant bad consequences.
Since VIDAR feels the need to mention all the people "murdered" by
police for innocent breaking of the law, lets not leave anyone out. Lets start
naming ever person in this country who is murdered by people high on drugs who
just want more money or drugs or because the moment came to them. I'll
make it easy for you to start this list.Jared Francom: Murdered by
someone who wanted to make a political point apparently.Believe me.
You can name all the people you want who were killed by police. And that list
still won't scratch the surface of those killed by druggies or those
invested in the drug trade. And that is in the US alone. It is much worse
overseas.Stewart is a cold blooded killer. Nothing more nothing
less. You serve no one by trying to make him appear to be the victim.
I have some very simple questions that I would like answers to.Why
not arrest him at work, where you know he is likely to be unarmed and easy to
take into custody?Why mount a military style operation in the middle
of the night into someone's house, where Americans are told that they have
the right to shoot intruders?Why is it necessary to have this scale
of operation for something as minor as growing marijuana, while there are
criminals in 3-piece suits stealing billions of dollars from us every day?
Re: "Alberto Sepulveda 11 years old . . . killed by a shotgun blast to the
back . . . during a SWAT raid."You can thank Stewart and those
callously supporting and defending his actions for each and every one of these
unnecessary deaths.Police are required to engage in military tactics
because those are the tactics Stewart and his friends in the drug business use
against them.Blaming police for drug-cartel-related violence is
qualitatively equivalent to blaming them for pedophile violence against
Re: "Why not arrest him at work . . . ?That's what they did
-- arrested him at his place of business.
all I can say is it is pretty heartless to not be angry about innocent people
that are being called collateral damage in the drug war; a war on our own
people. for all the gun owners out there; what would you do if someone broke
into your house in the middle of the night?Alberta Spruill;57 years
old Harlem, New York: Police, acting on a tip, forced their way into
Spruill’s home, setting off flash grenades. She suffered a heart attack
and died. It was the wrong address. Kenneth B. Walker 39 years old
Columbus, Georgia: Walker and three companions were pulled over in an SUV by
police in a drug investigation. No drugs or weapons were found, but Walker was
shot in the head. Walker was a devoted husband and father, a respected member of
his church, and a 15-year middle-management employee of Blue Cross and Blue
Shield. Deputy David Glisson, who killed Walker, was fired three months
later for failing to cooperate in an investigation into the shooting.
procuradorfiscal saidRe: "Why not arrest him at work . . . ?That's what they did -- arrested him at his place of business.Try paying attention to facts of the case instead of joking about people being
killed.Violence begets violence, and America is all about
"declaring war" on everything.When your door is mistakenly
kicked in because of a wrong address, during the night with a loud
bang....you'll do what?NeilT said: Unbelieveable. He planned
this ambush out. Because he had prior knowledge of the warrant to be
served?Who in the police department tipped him off?
Re: ". . . all I can say is it is pretty heartless to not be angry about
innocent people that are being called collateral damage in the drug war . . .
."Agreed.So why aren't people identifying
themselves as "Keep the Peace" and their supporters angry at Stewart and
his buddies in the illicit drug business that are the cause of it all?
@screennameDon't go there. First and foremost, we need to
protect our men and women in blue with the best laws and the best equipment that
money can buy. Trust me. I know from personal experience of which I speak. Let's be rational, not emotional. I am asking a difficult but
logical question for the sake of the safety of the police and the public at
large. Notwithstanding the stupidity of a defiant suspect, is it worth shooting
it out for a weed that can grow healthy in the cracks of concrete? If it is worth it, fine. Let's arm the police to the teeth and allow them
to use fatal force if and whenever it is necessary. But do we do so at the risk
of losing lives in spite of the fact that the masses, regardless of the law,
WILL categorically get liquored up and weeded up forever and a day? We have a society of self medicators. That's a fact. Some choose smoke
over pills or liquids. Must we lose citizens and officers over the never ending
struggle to codify the acceptability or unacceptability of specific mind
They couldn't arrest Matthew Stafford at work, because this team was just
serving a search warrant.The only person who made this violent is
Matthew Stafford. The police try to serve at a time when the suspect would be
present, but if the suspect is obviously not home, the warrant allows a
search.The police knocked and yelled, to no answer. They entered to
fulfill a warrant, and were ambushed in the worst possible way by a man with
full intent of killing police.The Stafford family are proving to be
the type of people who will blame other people for everything that they do not
like. I am embarassed for the Staffords for trying to find justification of
I say that when you open fire on Police Officers and carry it past a point you
are guilty and when you break the laws of this country you must pay the
pentlies. I noticed there were alot of posting on people killed by mistake, why
don't you look at how many officers lost their life in the line of duty.
This group want you to feel sorry for Matthew and I don't buy it. I say let
the legal systems and I would give money quicker to the fallen Officer's
family than to the denfense of a person who took a life and injuried several
others. I hope that he gets what he desevered in a court of law.
Jonathan Eddy,Don't go where? I was merely pointing out that
you needn't agree with certain legislation in order to enforce it and
support its enforcement. The question being brought forward by you and this
group, about whether drug laws are wise, can in no way justify Matthew
Stewart's actions. The police enforce laws; they don't choose whether
to enforce them depending on their own personal morals. Similarly, if Matthew
believed the laws should be changed, he should have done it legally and
non-violently, and his friends and supporters shouldn't be trying to
justify his actions in that regard.
You can tell a lot about a persons character by the friends/company they
have/keep. These friends and companions of Stewart share the same anti-Law
Enforcement/Pro-Illegal Narcotic Ideologies as their dope-lovin',
cop-killin' friend they've rallied to support. "Keep the
Peace"? Hardly. The very fact they support Stewart tells an entirely
I attended the event on Thursday evening and I didn't hear anyone defending
what Mr Stewart did. The intended focus was on how our community can prevent
this type of thing from happening again. It seems to me that there can be
better ways of dealing with both of these problems (drugs and violence). The
comments here are not helping with either. The fact is, we have problems and
all anyone here is doing is voicing hate.
I think the federal government should care less about money and more about
citizen lives. Especially those who swear to uphold the laws that they make and
all for political gain. Unwanted and outdated policies are the reason for a
whole generation of people becoming victims of the senseless war on drugs. If
you want someone to blame how about blaming the corporations who line our
politicians pockets with money to keep drugs illegal? The political reality
still is that our "leaders" don't think there are enough votes for
the investigation of possible change of the current drug policy. I think a lot
of people would be surprised to find out that issues of public health and safety
were not even considered by Congress in making marijuana an illegal substance.