Wow. Not bad for a guy that "wouldn't play on BYU's offense."
@ StGtoSLCNot a BYU article. Give us a break.
@Jonathan EddyWell then why did you read the article AND the
comments? Give us a break.
Jonathan Eddy, the reference is over your head, and that's fine. A resident
of Utah county gave his/her expectation for last September's game based on
a head-to-head comparison of every position for both teams, concluding that
nobody on Utah's offense would ever even see the field if they played in
Provo, so it just makes me chuckle when people who actually make a living off of
analyzing football talents rate Bergstrom an entire round better than BYU's
best offensive player in years.
@stgActually if you weren't lying to try and make your non
point you will recall I said bergstrom was the only one that might. I think it
is obvious now that john white probably would as well but other than that none
of them would. wynn would not start over Riley. None of the wr's would
start over Hoffman or Apo although christopher would get into the rotation. None
of the te's is worth mentioning. None of the o-line is either. You seem to
forget utah had one of the absolutely worst offenses in the entire ncaa last
year. They were really, really bad. Yes I know they beat up on BYU, but we also
know that it wasn't really utah's offense. Defensive scores and
extremely short fields provided by the defense were the reasons for that, not
any stellar play by utah's supposed offense.Enjoy your wi, I
certainly would, but it is still what it is and utah's offense was still
decidely bad last year.
StGtoSLC:Just need to keep that troll and his team in our rear view mirror
where they belong. Congrats to Bergstrom and Shelby! Hope Cullen and
others can get drafted or stick with a team later. The last word I read on
Reynolds was "over-rated" and that was on ESPN.com.
No matter how bad Utah's offense was last year this article is based on Pro
Football Weekly's "value board" based on feedback from NFL teams
concerning this year's draft. So I am going to go ahead and believe that
their opinion on players is a lot more valid than bitter BYU fans opinions. Tony
Bergstrom has proven himself to be an amazing offensive lineman for all the
years that he has played at Utah and he is consistent. He proved himself in the
Senior Bowl, the combine, at his pro day where Matt Reynolds has not been so
impressive. He had a good pro day but thats about it. I hope the best for him
but if we're rating better or worse O-lines from last year I recall
Utah's D-ends tossing BYU's O-line around like rag dolls. Good luck to
all of Utah's (Utah the state not the team) NFL draft candidates for this
year. Hopefully we can put out some amazing talent to represent our state!!!
@DuckhunterHoffman is a stud, I'd take him before any of the
Utah receivers ... but Apo hasn't showed me anything. I'd take
Christopher before him in a heartbeat.As for tight end, Utah is night and
day better than the Y with Rogers, Murphy, Moala and Tonga. Anyone of those guys
could fight for a starting spot at BYU. I'll bet on Murphy playing in the
NFL one day - barring injury.As for the Utah offense being so terrible ...
we all know the Utah offense would've been much stronger if not for one
major problem ... quarterback. I love Hays for being a gamer and doing his best
in a tough situation, but if Utah had a stronger backup QB last year, we all
know the offense would've looked a lot better.
"DuckhunterHighland, UT@stgActually if you
weren't lying to try and make your non point you will recall I said
bergstrom was the only one that might."You really volleyed this
one right over the net to me! And you called ME a LIAR, to boot! Hysterical!"No I don't want to retract. There is not a one of them outside
of White that is better than anything BYU has. No bergstrom is not better, and
neither is stevens."10:03 a.m. Dec. 14, 2011I think that
whole "hypocrite" thing gets thrown out there so much these days that it
devalues the word, so I'm just going to give you benefit of the doubt that
you entirely forgot a very specific and emphatic statement from just a few
motorbike, Tonga will likely be a defensive end this fall, and Moala is actually
a fullback. At TE look for Moeai and Rogers to receive the most reps once
they're healthy, and Murphy will probably get quite a few looks in the
passing game, along with Rogers. Also, not sure if they want to play him at DE
or TE or even FB this year, but David Rolf is a beast as well, so don't be
surprised to see him get in the mix.
Oh, and I loved reading this part again as well:"BYU appears to
have several future NFL players on their offense, I think you'll be hard
pressed to find even one on utah's."
@stgI still don't think bergstrom is better. Do you know what
"might" means? Nice try but fail.LOL!
ok..bergstrom is a pretty good player..and so i shelby..but a Ute that was not
mentioned was Lei Talamaivao..i think maybe because he was hurt last year he
didnt get alot of playing time..but i think this kid is better than both of
those put together..and i hope he gets a chance to play in the next level
We will see what the NFL coaches think on draft day about Bergstrom vs Reynolds.
I'm going to say three Utes drafted and 1 BYU guy.
@StGtoSLCThanks for correcting me, I indeed meant Moeai - not Moala.
I did however mean exactly what I said about Tonga being among our very good
tight ends ... if Utah wasn't so deep at that position we wouldn't be
trying Tonga at DE.As for saying Moeai and Roger will get the most reps
... I don't think that's how it'll play out ... Murphy's
tearing it up in practice right now and looks like the best player we have at
TE. That being said, Rogers and Moeai have the experience. Rogers may get the
starter reps but I fully expect Murphy will overtake Moeai and see plenty of
balls thrown his way.While Rolf is "a beast" as well, I've
heard he's getting reps at fullback among other positions.Bottom
line, it's confusing with all the looks players are getting at other
positions but again this has everything to do with how deep the TE talent
currently is, a position BYU was abnormally weak at last season despite what
Duckhunter wants to admit.
autcountyute1The highest ranked player between the two schools is
Hebron Fangupo of BYU. It will not turn out the way you predict.
@motorbikeYou mean a position BYU was "abnormally" injured
at last season. They'll be back to normal, which means better than almost
any other team in the country, at TE this season. utah will not be nearly as
good or deep.
Troll, The highest ranked player between the two schools is Hebron Fangupo
of BYU. Incorrect and not even that close. Predicted 5th Round at
best. Bergstrom 137/2511Fangupo 168/2511The Draft is
just a couple weeks away. You'd better get that plane ticket to Tulsa or
line up whatever lame excuse your going to use when you disappear for three
weeks this time.
DuckhunterHighland, UT....and yet it was 54-10 and all that
great offensive might produced what?? One touchdown.LOL
@Duckhunter -That's exactly right, I readily admit BYU was
abnormally bad at TE last year, it's a position BYU is typically very
strong at - no question.However, Utah is abnormally strong at TE
right now (yes I also admit Utah is usually pathetic at TE). So though I
won't profess to know how stacked or not stacked BYU is at that position,
it would be hard to beat what Utah's got this year.
motorbike, I've seen a lot of Murphy and know he's got crazy ball
skills, but he's really not a good blocker. Moeai and Rolf are the best
blockers, and decent pass catchers, and Rogers is pretty good at both. It will
be interesting to see how it plays out in fall camp, but my best estimation is
that the better blockers will see the field more.