$1.5 million??? Didn't even LDS church folks say it was getting over $3 Billion?
While I appreciate some of the new stores coming in, I'm completely underwhelmed
by the stores that they have announced on the whole. What a disappointment.
I'm very excited about the Mall. While Dining, Disney, and Deseret Book are the
only 3 things this mall really offers for someone like me, I'm still very
excited to see such a great development and investment into our city.Notorious,That line of text may have meant a specific portion.
However, the Harmons store alone cost far more than $1.5M so obviously this
can't mean the entire project.
It's funny how, according to LDS, this project is going to cost around 3 billion
and take a couple years. LDS also reported giving 1.5 billion to humanitarian
aid since 1985 ... which took 27 years. 3 bill = 3 years for
business. 1.5 billion = 27 years for helping the poor.
What's so sinister is putting more money and effort into business than doing
Christ's work ... how can you not see that?
So, will the restaurants be serving alcohol? Will the mall be open on Sundays?
What? Still no Neiman Marcus? Nearest is in Denver.
Stores are not open on Sunday and Liquor is not served, Therefore, Gateway still
has a chance!
re: L Valfre;seriously, you're going to compare the church's
business interests to humanitarian aid and complain that they're not doing
enough to promote Christ's work? how ludicrous.By the way, there's
much more being spent on "Christ's work" than just humanitarian aid
efforts- there's also fast offering dollars being spent in each local
congregation's area to help the local poor and needy, $ for the missionary
efforts of the church, $ for all of the temples built in that time frame, $ for
translation and publication of several church books, magazines, and movies, etc.
I guess some will complain about anything, but I'm pretty sure 1.5
million on humanitarian aid has done much good in this world to help those that
truly need it, but someone puts some money into a business venture and all the
critics come out. Keep grasping for straws, bud.
"Keep grasping for straws, bud."I'm going to put this very
simply. A church is a non-profit organization. It doesn't get into for-profit
ventures. Doing so through separate 'business arms' is still business ... a
place where religion is supposed to have no part. It's a conflict of
interest.Also, fast offerings and all that jazz is great. What
about the tithes? How do enormous and expensive temples, PR, and marketing
campaigns equate to justified spending of millions of tithes? Why the need to
keep finances secret from everyone?Are you telling me in this day
and age, with our levels of critical thinking now, that you won't even question
I was hopin' for an ABC store, like the fashion show or miracle mile in vegas.
That way the average guy could grab a beer and maybe some macadamias while
waiting for her to shop.
I don't understand the outside mall concept/fad. Here, they're too hot in the
summer, to cold in the winter, retractable roof or not. I'll take an indoor,
comfortable, climate-controlled mall anytime. Still, for those that don't mind
being chilly or sweaty, I hope they enjoy the experience and restore vitality to
downtown Salt Lake City, and extend a feeling of safety after dark beyond Temple
Square.Above commentators: this project was paid for by proceeds
from businesses owned by the Church - not by "the Church". These are
for-profit businesses investing in a for-profit venture. On the other hand,
Church services and gifts (of which humanitarian aid is a percentage) are
provided entirely through the donations of members and friends of the Church.
Thought there would be more (better) restaurants... Pretty excited for the
The economy is coming back; perfect time to open. All organizations in the
world need money and don't need to apologize for that; Deseret Management Corp.
makes money and loses money just like all institutions. If I were to say how
much $$ they lost in 2008 from their insurance arm (which they since closed)
this probably wouldn't be an accepted comment. Times change and companies need
to change with the times or go under. Some day there may be 25 million LDS and
Salt Lake City will grow more and more to accomodate people flocking to the
"Mecca" of the west.
Will the stores be wheelchair friendly? Meaning will a person be able to move
about freely in the store. Will they be able to get into the stores without
having to wait for someone to open a door for them if they are by themself? Gateway is NOT wheelchair friendly.
The new mall sounds great -- and very spacious. I'm proud to have such costly
apparel so readily available.
I was hoping they would bring back the Tiffin Room (restaurant with the piano).
I liked the atmosphere.. The music nice and you could make some requests and
tip the player. Oh well, I guess a chain store eatery replaced that, too bad.
It's always amazing that there are always those who will find something to
complain about. Whether you shop there or not, it is a beautiful addition to
downtown. There were jobs for those building, jobs for those who will work
there, jobs to help the economy.
LValfre, how much money have you donated to humanitarian causes? How about your
church? What kind of car do you drive, and how come you haven't sold it in
favor of a cheaper one and given the difference to charity? Apparently you pay
for internet access because you're posting comments on this website...why
haven't you cancelled it and given that money to the poor?My point
here is not to put you on the spot, but to point out that none of us is getting
rid of every material thing in order to provide more charitable aid. You are
not in a very defensible position unless you're doing everything you're
criticizing the LDS Church for not doing. And the evidence suggests you're not.
LValfre...and just out of curiosity, how much have YOU donated to humanitarian
aid lately? What portion of your income? Yes, it is a church, and should be
expected to give, but like was stated...you have to MAKE money to be able to
give it!I think they are just being provident.
per LValfre 6:31 p.m. March 1, 2012"Are you telling me in this
day and age, with our levels of critical thinking now, that you won't even
question this?"The true believers won't they have been well
conditioned not to question the powers that be.Per Hutterite 8:52
p.m. March 1, 2012"I was hopin' for an ABC store, like the
fashion show or miracle mile in vegas. That way the average guy could grab a
beer and maybe some macadamias while waiting for her to shop."An
ABC store would be sweet. You can't go 2 blocks on Waikiki w/o seeing one. It
was a great place to grab a paper and energy drink then go chill on the beach in
@ MrsH"I think they are just being provident."or
Hedging their bet. I'd be interested in hearing your position on all the works
of art, etc... that the Catholic church has "stored" in the Vatican.
Nothing makes a trip to the temple more spiritual than stopping off at a big
shopping mall after a session. Sure you leave the world behind, but you gotta
have it as accessible as possible as soon as you get back to earth. (Anyone think the list of eateries looks more like a list of desert/candy
shops? Not a lot of healthy options there...)
@raybies "Not a lot of healthy options there..."Sounds like
an opportunity for you to lease some space and open a healthy eating
alternative. You wouldn't be griping just to have something to make a fuss
about, would you? I bet if someone gave you a briefcase full of money, you'd
complain that it's too heavy.
It's amazing how people will deny anything to fight the church. The truth is
that portions will be open on Sunday, and some restaurants will indeed serve
alcoholic beverages.People need to find reasons to hate the church.
It's not only illogical, it's setting reason aside in favor of prejudice when
you have to make up lies in order to accuse or criticize.We're all
grown ups, but some of us just aren't acting like it.
A hundred years ago when different stores came to Salt Lake people complained
that we were becoming too worldly; I think some called the Salt Palace the
great and spacious building, when it was under construction. There is nothing
wrong with buying clothes and shoes and food. Think of the many jobs (and all
the construction jobs the last 8 years) that will and have lifted the standard
of living for those employed. Spend less than you earn, but do spend----we
all need clothes and shoes and food and clean prosperous communities.