Just like every year for the past 5, 10, 20 or however many years, the "big
education" establishment is already whining about needing "more
money." They just do not get it. Money is not printed and
spent when we don't have it, at least not, thankfully, in Utah. Maybe the
teachers union bosses in Washington DC can believe spending happens that way
everywhere, but not here.Educators need to quit their perpetual
whining, and get busy cutting the waste out of their system, and cut any
non-productive teachers, and eliminate about 50% of all the "staff"
positions. Then there will be plenty to cover actual teaching costs.The Legislature should be looking for ways to CUT taxes in Utah, and CUT
spending, not constantly seek more. It's the taxpayers' money, not
the state's! Don't be so greedy taking it from people who earned it by their
hard work and are seeking to house, clothe, feed and educate their own families.
It is indeed the taxpayers' money, and the taxpayers have continuously
supported more funding for their public schools (see numerous polls.) Education
dollars are an investment. The state constitution mandates that public schools
be supported. Stephenson wants public schools ended. Period. He wants his
friends to be able to skim education dollars from the classroom to go directly
into their own pockets.Another article in the paper today reports on
the difficulties that many boys are having in school. I would suggest that
putting boys who need to move around and learn by doing into classes with so
many students that only quiet behavior can be tolerated is part of that problem
and the responsibility for it rests squarely on the shoulders of our
DN subscriber. You keep bringing up this non existent teachers union. Would
like some more info on where I can find out more about it and all the problems
it is responsible for.
Those involved in education just love to dance M&M around the legislature.
More money, More money. It gets very old. We spend far too much on education
as it is. The teachers want us to think that sending more money their way is an
investment in our children. It is not, it is only an investment in the
educator's who constantly dance to the M&M music.
Our more sophisticated sister state on the left coast has an out-of-control and
ever growing mountain of debt to the tune of $40B ($40,000 million) dollars.
Instead of investing money in their children's educations the taxpayers in
California have to pay BILLIONS of dollars in interest on their ever increasing
debt.I think I like Utah's way better.
NeilT wants to kinow about the teachers union:Check out the Utah Education
Association and the National Education Association.They may claim to
be something other than "unions" but that is actually what they
are.And, many teachers resent being forced to support them but fear
retribution if they do not. Look at how the funding for the UEA dropped once
"paycheck protection" ended the involuntary deductions from teachers'
pay to fund the UEA.
@DN SubscriberYou say that 50% of the "staff" positions
need to be eliminated.Can you be more specific? The
daily rhetoric of CUT, CUT, CUT with nothing specific is getting old. My
spouse's school (in Jordan School District) has a shoestring staff already. Are
you ready to volunteer to pick up the slack? Inquiring minds truly
want to know what you want cut. Oh, and no one is forced to join
the JEA, UEA, NEA.
Re: CHS 85 | 12:11 p.m. Feb. 19, 2012 "You say that 50% of the
"staff" positions need to be eliminated. Can you be more
specific?"For starters we could slash the number of
administrators and hire a few elementary school children to fill out all the
federal NCLB phony baloney paperwork.
@CHS85 - don't waste your time confusing rifleman and DNSubscriber with details
like how Utah school districts are routinely recognized for being among the
lowest in per pupil admin costs in the nation, or how we no longer have programs
like district-funded elementary school music (a proven, lifelong-actually,
benefit to cognitive development). They'd rather spew unfounded
rhetoric and watch the Utah economy spin down the drain when we can no longer
attract business into our state because our public school graduates won't be
able to qualify for the jobs. What they probably don't realize is that it is
the up-and-coming generation of public school students who will be funding their
social security, paying the premiums on their medicare, and sitting in the
Legislature cutting state programs and dumping money back into education where
it belongs in the first place.
@rifleman: you'd be surprised how many district administrators would love
nothing more than to stop completing those phony baloney NCLB reports and start
doing some REAL work. NCLB is a complete waste of time and money. But the Feds
require it, so if you want to complain about fat in the school districts, at
least direct your attention to the correct source.
Re: JustAnotherAverageGuy | 8:57 p.m. Feb. 19, 2012 "NCLB is a
complete waste of time and money. But the Feds require it"In my
comment I never suggested that we drop the NCLB program. I merely suggested
that we hire a few elementary school children to fill out the phony baloney
I must admit, I admire the way the Davis School District has handled recent
budget cuts. They've made some painful decisions, but they never sacrificed the
students. It sounds like other school districts may have survived the recent
pinch.Education in Utah is rarely in the "black," so
cutting costs is extremely difficult. We are succeeding because of our
teachers, not because we are offerring a multitude of opportunities for our
teachers and students.I applaud moving forward with our very mild
increases over last year's very tight education budget. It's time to extend a
thank you to our teachers, for everything they do with so little.