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Texas Gov. Perry says indictment is abuse of power

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  • Jimmytheliberal Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 16, 2014 4:07 p.m.

    Indictment dropped if you are able to name all three branches of government Governor!

  • Baron Scarpia Logan, UT
    Aug. 16, 2014 5:21 p.m.

    So for our two leading contenders for the GOP presidential nomination, one is indicted on abuse of power in Texas and the other is charged for using his office to create traffic jams over a bridge in New Jersey to punish a mayor foe.

    Recruit Mitt for 2016 -- at least all he's done is invert his companies to be based in nearby small nations in the Caribbean to avoid paying taxes in America. At least that's legal! God Bless America!

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    Aug. 16, 2014 5:43 p.m.

    Remember when Harry Reid lied about Mitt Romney and claimed Romney had not paid taxes in 10 years? This is just more of the same from the left. Democrats can't run on their record so what else have they got but to tell lies about their opponents?

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    Aug. 16, 2014 6:41 p.m.

    Perry refuses to fund the Public Integrity Unit.

    He’s indicted for abuse of power.

    He says the courts abused their power in indicting him.

    . . . Okay, but why did he have so much problem with the Integrity Unit in the first place?
    Is there some integrity violation he’s trying to hide?

    He’s says he won’t fund the Public Integrity Unit because the woman who leads the Public
    Integrity Unit got a DUI and refused to resign her position.

    Is that really it?

    Was Perry really feeling threatened because a woman DA has a DUI on her record? Or was he feeling threatened by the very existence of a Public Integrity Unit.

  • not here COLORADO SPRINGS, CO
    Aug. 16, 2014 9:29 p.m.

    @ Thid Barker:

    Please if you would show where it was ever proven that MR Reid lied, and when did Romney so us the ten years of tax returns. And if you can do that I will get back on here and say I am sorry. Now it's your turn to put up, or and I think you know the rest.

  • intervention slc, UT
    Aug. 16, 2014 9:51 p.m.

    @thid baker

    If you want to make democrats "run on the record" maybe you should tell republicans to stop breaking the law rather then blame democrats for republicans illegal behaviors.

  • Tekakaromatagi Dammam, Saudi Arabia
    Aug. 17, 2014 7:28 a.m.

    I am not thrilled by the possibility of Perry running for president. (While we're at it, let's encourage Karl Rove to be involved in the 2016 election, we can get Donald Trump and Newt Gingrich to run also, Sarah Palin, etc.)

    Having said that, given that he made the threat publicly and because of the drunken driving arrest of the attorney running the ethics watchdog committee, it does not appear that this was an unethical or illegal abuse of power.

    I am not going to buy into the myth that just because a Democrat in Texas says they are liberal that it means they are liberal and are concerned about helping the poor. Ann Richards was a democratic governor and she introduced a state lottery. How liberal was that?

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    Aug. 17, 2014 7:53 a.m.

    @ not here. CNN news, "Mitt Romney released his tax returns for the last two years indicating he made $13.7 million last year and paid $1.94 million in federal income taxes, giving him an effective tax rate of 14.1%."
    There you go but I am suprised you missed that information that was widely publicized. I guess Harry Reid missed it too!

    @ Intervention. I hope the Democrats run on their Obamacare mess and the lies, IRS abuses, lies and cover-ups, Obama's diasterous foreign policy, NSA spying, the decline of the middle class, Benghahzi cover-ups, the doubling of the national debt, record number of food stamp recipeints, fast and furious, the "bailout" and "shovel ready jobs", etc. etc, all Democrat accomplishments! Good luck in November running on all of your "accomplishments".

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Aug. 17, 2014 7:58 a.m.

    Remember when Harry Reid told us about Mitt Romney and claimed Romney had not paid taxes in 10 years? Remember how Mitt refused to disclose his tax records? This is just more of the same from the right. Republicans can't run on their records without exposing corruption so what else have they got but to tell lies about their opponents?

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Aug. 17, 2014 9:49 a.m.

    Let's use the old utah excuse, provided any time the police want to grab more power. If Perry hasn't done anything wrong or hidden anything, this shouldn't be a problem.

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    Aug. 17, 2014 11:03 a.m.

    Democrats are picking on Perry just because he tried get a DA to resign from office through the use of his veto powers.

    Democrats say he was wrong to use his power of veto in order to bully someone into resigning from office.

    So the question is . . . Is it right for a Governor to use his official powers to force someone into quitting?

    Is that good governance? Or did he exceed his authority.

    BTW, if public servants were denied office because of a history alcohol abuse, GW Bush would never have been allowed to run for office either.

  • chilly Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 17, 2014 11:20 a.m.

    From the very liberal New York Magazine:

    "They say a prosecutor could get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich, and this always seemed like hyperbole, until Friday night a Texas grand jury announced an indictment of governor Rick Perry. The “crime” for which Perry faces a sentence of 5 to 99 years in prison is vetoing funding for a state agency. The conventions of reporting — which treat the fact of an indictment as the primary news, and its merit as a secondary analytic question — make it difficult for people reading the news to grasp just how farfetched this indictment is.

    Travis County District Attorney Rosemary Lehmberg — a Democrat who oversees the state’s Public Corruption unit — was arrested for driving very, very drunk. What followed was a relatively ordinary political dispute. Perry, not unreasonably, urged Lehmberg to resign. Democrats, not unreasonably, resisted out of fear that Perry would replace her with a Republican. Perry, not unreasonably, announced and carried out a threat to veto funding for her agency until Lehmberg resigned."

    5 to 99 for doing something entirely within his authority as Governor. Political joke.

  • LoveLife Riverton, UT
    Aug. 17, 2014 12:24 p.m.

    Some of you need some updated information.

    Not Here/Old Man-Two years ago, PricewaterhouseCoopers released a detailed report covering the last 20 years of the Romney's taxes. Summary of report:

    -Romneys owed both state and federal income taxes.
    -Average annual effective federal tax rate was 20.20%.
    -Lowest annual effective federal personal tax rate was 13.66%.
    -Romneys gave to charity an average of 13.45% of their adjusted gross income.
    -Total federal and state taxes owed plus the total charitable donations deducted represented 38.49% of total AGI.
    -During the 20-year period covered by the PWC letter, Gov. and Mrs. Romney paid 100 percent of the taxes that they owed.

    Besides that, I thought we, as Americans, are innocent until proven guilty. He's certainly never been proven guilty, so he is innocent. There is no shred of evidence to support anything Senator Reid stated on the Senate Floor.

    GaryO-Besides the DWI that Ms. Lehmberg was arrested for, she is also on tape abusing her position and threatening the officers, telling them that they'd "better do somethin' quick, because y'all are going to be in jail, not me, if you don't do something pretty quick."

  • gmlewis Houston, TX
    Aug. 17, 2014 12:59 p.m.

    @JimmyTheLiberal: "Indictment dropped if you are able to name all three branches of government Governor!"

    Now, now, it has been over 150 years since the two branches of Texas government were the Colt 45 in your left hand, and a matching pistol in your right hand.

    @GaryO: "Was Perry really feeling threatened because a woman DA has a DUI on her record? Or was he feeling threatened by the very existence of a Public Integrity Unit."

    That is a very good question. As a lifelong Texan, I respect Governor Perry and have not seen anything amiss in his character. Some of the refugees from Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans will remember the great kindness he showed them when they were so destitute. I appreciate his attempts to build our economy.

  • NeilT Clearfield, UT
    Aug. 17, 2014 2:43 p.m.

    Gov Perry may have used some bad judgement. He should have left the judicial system run it's course. Once the lady was found guilty then he would have more leverage to work with. No way is this a serious enough crime to warrant a long prison sentence.

  • chilly Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 17, 2014 3:56 p.m.

    NeilT: "Gov Perry may have used some bad judgement."

    Neil, Please google "Lehmberg was arrested after a witness called 911" and "Rosemary Lehmberg arrest videos". After reading all the details and watching the videos, tell me you still think Perry used "bad judgment" in not wanting to turn over $7.5 million for her to run the "Public Integrity Unit".

    "He should have left the judicial system run it's course. Once the lady was found guilty then he would have more leverage to work with."

    He did. She had pled guilty and served part of a 45 day jail sentence two months before Perry vetoed the funding.

  • LoveLife Riverton, UT
    Aug. 18, 2014 10:31 a.m.

    Furry,
    That is a pretty weak defense.

    Do you even know what notarized means? From the National Notary website:

    "Notarization is the official fraud-deterrent process that assures the parties of a transaction that a document is authentic, and can be trusted. It is a three-part process, performed by a Notary Public, that includes of vetting, certifying and record-keeping. ..

    Above all, notarization is the assurance by a duly appointed and impartial Notary Public that a document is authentic, that its signature is genuine, and that its signer acted without duress or intimidation, and intended the terms of the document to be in full force and effect...

    The central value of notarization lies in the Notary's impartial screening of a signer for identity, willingness and awareness. This screening detects and deters document fraud, and helps protect the personal rights and property of private citizens from forgers, identity thieves and exploiters of the vulnerable."

    Do you really believe that if those documents had been false, the IRS wouldn't have been all over it?

    Sorry, there's been no proof of wrongdoing. Innocent until proven guilty. Throwing around baseless accusations during an election is not proof.

  • A Guy With A Brain Enid, OK
    Aug. 18, 2014 11:17 a.m.

    @ not here - COLORADO SPRINGS, CO "@ Thid Barker: Please if you would show where it was ever proven that MR Reid lied, and when did Romney so us the ten years of tax returns. And if you can do that I will get back on here and say I am sorry. Now it's your turn to put up, or and I think you know the rest."

    You're kidding, right?

    You want us to prove to you that Harry Reid lied by (falsely) accusing Mitt Romney of not paying any federal taxes for 10 years?

    Please, please tell me you are kidding....

  • A Guy With A Brain Enid, OK
    Aug. 18, 2014 11:20 a.m.

    @LoveLife - Riverton, UT "Some of you need some updated information.

    Not Here/Old Man-Two years ago, PricewaterhouseCoopers released a detailed report covering the last 20 years of the Romney's taxes. Summary of report:

    -Romneys owed both state and federal income taxes.
    -Average annual effective federal tax rate was 20.20%.
    -Lowest annual effective federal personal tax rate was 13.66%.
    -Romneys gave to charity an average of 13.45% of their adjusted gross income.
    -Total federal and state taxes owed plus the total charitable donations deducted represented 38.49% of total AGI.
    -During the 20-year period covered by the PWC letter, Gov. and Mrs. Romney paid 100 percent of the taxes that they owed."

    Excellent, factual information there, Sir/Ma'am.

    But, hey, let's not confuse a certain portion of the population with little things like "facts" and "truth"....

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Aug. 18, 2014 1:01 p.m.

    Some people, foolishly continue believing liberal democrat lies.

    Crazy!

  • Tators Logan, UT
    Aug. 18, 2014 2:44 p.m.

    @ GaryO:

    You are once again making an incomplete and irrelevant comparison. Bush was never arrested for a DUI or any anything else for that matter. This DA in question was. It's not against the law for drinking alcohol. But it is for endangering the public while driving drunk. Big, big difference.

    DA's sometimes have to prosecute people for drunk driving. How can they do so without hypocrisy when they themselves have been proven guilty for doing so. They can't.
    Therefore, yes, it is good governance to deny that DA of that particular job, since she had then lost court and legal standing... and the credibility necessary to do her job effectively.

    And in answer to the question in your first comment, yes... that was really it.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Aug. 19, 2014 10:39 a.m.

    Hey liberal Democrats!

    "Thou shalt not lie".