Wow - a lot of good athletes choosing not to sign locally. And the ones that do
seem to be choosing other programs than the one whose fans for the past four
years or more have been boasting that, due to their newly found alliance,
athletes would flock to their university and make them a PAC12 contender year in
and year out. Clearly it isn't happening.If you can't
recruit you are in big trouble.
We are really cleaning up now because we are power 5 prestegous.Go
It's not very hard to see what the order is between the 3 utah schools in
recruiting in-state so far:1- BYU2- USU3- utahIt seems likely that Masina and Gustin will play out of state, so
unfortunately all of the top 4 players will leave the state.Also,
most indications are that Mufi Hunt and Gabe Reid are currently leaning toward
BYU. That would give us a solid group of kids from in-state to add to our
increased emphasis on recruiting California, Texas, and other parts of the
nation.How is that Pac-12 membership doing for your recruiting,
utes? Please don't try and tell me that utah doesn't care about
in-state recruits. You have 2 commitments in this list. The problem is, they are
lower than USU's 2 commits and BYU's 3.I know that
it's still long before signing day, but the Pac-12 membership doesn't
seem to be giving utah any kind of head start.
Haven't these guys seen the new facilities?
Not only do the Uties only have two on the list, one is a kicker, hahahahaha.
The coooogs will need all 25 on this list plus another ten missionaries that are
currently signed somewhere else if they ever want to beat Utah again. So let me
say congrats BYU! Until we meet again and make it five, six and seven in a row.
In the meantime, everyone can endure more of these supposed recruiting
victories. Let's never let facts get in the way of a good story.
Sinkme,The Utes should be beating BYU every year for the next 40
with their numerous advantages of inclusion. That should be a no brainer. This
is the problem with Utah is that they still base their success on how they
compare to BYU. Your measuring stick shouldn't be BYU any more. Beating
BYU isn't a great accomplishment relative to beating most of the teams in
your conference.If Utah would just start caring about beating
Oregon, USC, and Stanford, and stop comparing themselves to BYU, most of their
problems would be solved. You don't earn prestige by membership alone, and
you don't get it by beating BYU.
@FatMan86Little Brothers can "Never" stop comparing
themselves to their Big Brothers!BYU will always be Utah's Boogeyman.
I love the irony. Every post on here is a Cougar fan taking shots at Utah and
Utah fan. This is clearly not the 80s anymore and BYU fan is reaching for
anything that looks like a win against the U, since they are not coming on the
field.But BYU fan is right, clearly the best thing for Utah would be
to leave the PAC 12 and rejoin a mid-major. I'm sure Arizona fan feels
that way, since they have never been to a Rose Bowl. ASU fans might be right
there as well, since I believe they have only been to one, maybe two, since they
left the WAC.Regardless of how Utah does in the PAC 12, they are
still better off than they were, and they are still better off than BYU. I will
even admit that Utah could not last as an independent, but BYU can. It is still
better to be a Ute than a Cougar.
@FatManDo you think it might have something to do with the continual
obsession and jabs that BYU fans throw on these boards? Of course Utah fans care
about beating USC, Oregon, Washington, etc. However, this is the D News; and
fans from those programs don't continually badger Utah fans. As a matter of
fact, you rarely see a post from those fan bases. A pretty simple concept in my
I don't see a difference. BYU fans poke at Utah. Utah fans poke at BYU.
What a waste of time.
Spokane Ute - stop with the hypocrisy. Your holier than thou attitude just
doesn't cut it.
KitutukiNever claimed to be "holier' than anyone Judge Kit.
Just stating it like it is. Of course it goes both ways. Kinda sad, but very
Spokane Ute. Thank you glass house. I enjoy reading your comments
Spokane Ute, let me mention the obvious. The Utes are on a downward slide in
recruiting, which leads to losing. I know Ute fans like to pound their chest on
how tough their schedule is. Great! Congrats! For the record, I would like to
see BYU join a power conference and yes, there are some weak home games. I
don't like going to watch BYU blow out Idaho State anymore than Ute fans
like going up and watching their team get hammered. The Cougars SOS is decent
and was better than 45% of the so called power conference teams last year. Will
Ute fans continue attending games, knowing they are not going to sniff a bowl
game? Look no further than your own State. WSU did not go to a bowl game for 10
years. The first few years, they still sold out Martin Stadium, but eventually
attendance started to decline. In 2008 only 25K fans vs top ranked USC. In 2010
24K vs #3 Oregon, 24K vs #20 USC, 23K vs #17 Arizona and only 17K vs Cal. In
fact that year there were over 5K empty seats vs their rival Washington.
Congrats on the SOS National Title.
Why don't you look at that list a little closer. Most of those kids on thst
list utah didn't even offer. Bc they aren't d1 players. Utah has to
recruit a different type of athlete to compete in the pac 12. And I'm sorry
to say 2 star kids don't cut it. Look at most of the kids on that list
aren't even getting offers from d1 schools. There are basically 4 kids on
that list who are big time recruits. And utah or byu aren't getting any of
them. Osa will end up at Ucla with James and Gustin will end up at Usc. Utah can
compete. They were in almost every game last yr but didn't have the depth.
It takes time for that. And strength of schedule does matter. Utah is playing a
top 10 schedule this yr. Byu is 97. So byu beats the teams they should loses to
the 3 or 4 shoukd and finishes 8-4 every yr and goes to the nobody cares bowl.
So this "downward slide" in recruiting are kids they are even going
after in the first place.
I notice a lot of kids are from the Wasatch Front or the St. George area and I
am wondering why that is? Does it hurt the recruiting of a kid if he plays at a
small school and participates in other sports as well? Or are talented kids
getting overlooked because they aren't playing at the heavyweight programs?
baseballfan22.James already verbally committed to UCLA. I doubt he
will change his mind and go to USC.
Why don't you go back and read my comment again. I said osa will join james
at Ucla and gustin will end up at usc. Never said james is going to usc.
Some very good players on this list but you have missed a couple of guys that
should definitely be in the top 25 prospects. How is the nations best punter
Bailey Kenter from Layton Christian not on this list? I would have thought that
if you were ranked #1 at your position in the nation, you'd deserve a
I'd heard this list was being expanded as it is missing some guys who
should clearly be on it.
What I thought was interesting is how this list did not include hardly anyone
from Bingham. Everyone know that Bingham is the team you have to go through if
you want a chapionship in the 5A classification. I thought maybe there QB would
get some praise.As far as the battle between the Utes and Cougars.
Everyone should just admit that both teams are not that good. With that said
they should both be in the same conference (WAC) and they should play eachother
every year. It's like the West Valley 3rd Ward versus the Tooele 6th Ward.
@ taysomI suppose when your favorite team has lost to its rival 4
straight and 9 of 12 times, you will take a "win" anywhere you can.Clearly, the Utes focus recruiting on California, Texas and now Florida,
while still trying for some in-state kids, but due to the church's
influence on most kids in Utah, it comes as no surprise when BYU always has more
players from this state commit to that institution. It has always been that way,
and it always will be. LOL
@ fatman,You claim the obsession stems only from Utah fans towards
BYU, yet here you are making a post that flies in the face of your statement.
It is not cougar fan's fault BYU hasn't been included in a
P5 conference, yet they take it so personal, and find every opportunity to
downplay Utah's inclusion in the PAC12. Berating the Utes
because they've made it into one of the best conferences in America,
won't do anything to change the schedule BYU presents each November, yet
the rants go on and on and on, as if complaining in the Deseret News will make
the Big12 or any other P5 conference call and make the offer.
Not every high school recruit on the list is being recruited by Utah. While
there are many good players some of the top 25 will end up at Weber State or
Southern Utah. a beeter comparasion of how many national3, 4 or 5 star recruits
are choosing to stay hoe/ Both Mendenhall and Whittingham has said repeatedly
that the 2 schools do not compete with each other for the same local players.
Update this page..... recruiting is a full time gig.