So if a typical fast food worker with a HS education makes $7.50 per hour and
now wants $15.00 per hour, how much should the typical PT college adjunct make
considering that most adjuncts have at least a graduate or terminal degree?
Probably about $75,000 which will put the average FT professor at $150,000.
Do these workers deserve more money? Probably. People will tell them it has to
do with their value but that is not true. I am guessing if the owners of these
franchises could not find workers they would have to raise their wages. This has
nothing to do with the value of the individual necessarily but with the fact
there is a abundant supply of people who will work for these wages.
Shaun,Will you pay 7.50 for a Big Mac? If not, a lot of these
people will lose their jobs. Watch for a touch screen at the drive through
where you can order. 2 jobs gone. Watch for increased automation in the
kitchen. Another couple of jobs gone. Owners have two options, raise prices or
automate. If prices double does making twice as much really help? I know if
prices double I will be brown bagging it a lot more.I would like
everyone to make more, but economies do not function in a vacuum. Some people
will be better off, but a lot will lose their jobs. Just look at the
unemployment rate for 18-25 year Olds in Europe.
RBB, Won't the automation of any industry lead desperate (but
creative) people to create new ideas/industries, (etc) jobs? We seem to have
had plenty of jobs eventually as the farming community has becoming automated.
Please don't read any negative connotations into my comments. I'm
asking honestly. I've always been confused by the automation argument,
because I think that we'll just adjust. It will take time (and for those
years I get the automation argument), but within a few years, other jobs will be
created. I haven't thought through the argument deeply and wanted to know
what counterarguments there are to what I am saying.
Shaun,it has EVERYTHING to do with their value as fast food workers.
basic supply and demand defines employee value. since people with the skillset
to be fast food workers are so common, of COURSE their compensation is going to
be lower.Their value as individuals is much higher, but NO ONE
should measure their self worth based on how much money they make. and your
value as an individual does NOT walk in lock step with the value of their labor
To "Shaun" I am confused. You say that they are not being paid for
their value at the same time you say that they are not valuable because there
are so many potential employees out there. Which is it? If their value was
greater, why are there so many that can easily fill thier positions?An employee's value is based on two things. First, how common is a
person with a particular skill set. Second is how much value does that person
add to the business.In the case of Fastfood workers, there are tons
of people capable of filling a minimum wage job. That right there drops the
value of an employee quite low. Since their employees have little interaction
with their customers, an individual employee adds little to the value of the
If they do not like the wages at McDonalds, the finish school, attend college,
learn a skilled trade (plumber, mechanic, welder) or become a teacher or
doctor.McDonalds is (or should be) an entry level job to demonstrate
the ability to show up on time, do what you are told, be courteous and
respectful, and work your way up to ever more responsible (and better paying)
jobs. I bet that many of the protesters at this demonstration were
not actually McDonald's workers but a left ring "rent a mob" bussed
to the site and paid to show up.All the folks who think raising the
minimum wage is a good idea need to go out and start their own businesses and
pay "a living wage" to their employees. At least until they go
Low skilled jobs just don't pay the same as high skilled ones. Period!This is what happens when you have an entitled society.Are
we turning into a nation of beggars?
These protesters don't have grit!Go on strike, and quit!Low skilled workers are hard to find.
While I don't eat at McDonalds I do support a person's right to strike
or for them to form a union. History has shown that without either owners will
take advantage of labor. @ Worf-How do you define these workers as
beggars? They're working hard and want more for their efforts.
@FT:They're begging for money which come from higher skilled
work.Should a dishwasher be paid the same as a plumber?McDonald's is a great job while you are developing a skill. Many
doctors, at one time, worked at McDonald's while finishing school.To expect greater pay without developing higher skills is simply begging.
Something for nothing. Working hard doesn't always require skill. I
wouldn't want any hard worker fixing my teeth.
@DN SubscriberI have a college degree and I have worked very hard to
get where I am at in my life. School was very hard for me as I am a slow learner
but I persisted to be able to graduate and get a job good enough to support a
family with 4 children. That said, there are a lot of circumstances in society
where a given percentage of citizens may not have the means, opportunity, or
inherent ability to achieve a college degree. For those people, jobs requiring
less skill and education are perhaps the best they can do. As these good people
work very hard and help business owners achieve success, it is only right that
they be paid a "living wage" and share in some of the success. A higher
minimum wage is needed. Finally, I encourage all individuals to do as much as
they can to get an education or vocational skill and try to get a better paying
job if at all possible.
College is not the only way of gaining a skill.Why gain a skill if
you're going to be paid as if you have one?Just give it to me
If my employee wants a given amount of money, they have to give that amount in
service or productivity. If they do not and I'm mandated to pay it, I have
to let them go. There's no getting around that, no matter one's
personal situation.If I were among the comparatively few people who
rely on a minimum wage job to make ends meet, jeapordizing it in a protest is
one of the -last- things I'd do. I therefore doubt most of these
protesters are among the people who really need or deserve the increase.