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Obama: 8 million signed up for health care

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  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    April 17, 2014 2:40 p.m.

    I think the President has a point. Hopefully we can stop framing this Republican vs Democratic debate and realize that we all win when Americans have access to affordable health care. Its also a relief to see the number of younger people signing up because of the insurance mandate. I could never quite figure out why the Republicans were so dead-set against this when it was their idea in the first place.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    April 17, 2014 2:45 p.m.

    One thing the critics of this law hate more than anything else, and that is sucess. We'll start to hear less and less of the critics because all of their complaints and prophecies are turning out to be the biggest lies attributed to this landmark legislation.

  • Ethel Home Town USA, UT
    April 17, 2014 2:57 p.m.

    I don't believe the numbers with so much bungling delays etc of this whole ACA. So many untruths have been thrown at "We the People."

    Pardon the skepticism but how do we know this to be so? This debate is NOT over yet.

  • bandersen Saint George, UT
    April 17, 2014 2:59 p.m.

    It has nothing to do with Republicans and Democrats and everything to do with Independent minded Americans that actually like liberty and aren't fooled by the uniparty that is in power. This is far from over. We the People are in power and will pull down everything that a Republican or Democrat proposes. They are the ones that have brought us to the precipice, taken us to war, started the War on Poverty, and ruined our country! Any Questions about where I stand along with millions of others? Hope not!

  • FelisConcolor North Salt Lake, UT
    April 17, 2014 3:44 p.m.

    It is amusing to watch the president indulge in his own "Mission Accomplished" moment. One remembers the confident rhetoric coming from the White House just before the health care website went online last fall. Proclaiming victory and declaring the debate to be over at this point is quite arrogant, especially since most of the controversial provisions of ObamaCare have yet to take effect (thanks in part to the President's politically-motivated delays).

    Especially since an estimated 15-20% of those signups have not paid any premiums and are not officially insured. In addition, demographic analysis of those who signed up show there are not enough young and healthy enrollees to ensure affordable premiums for everyone else. Finally, no one, not even the White House, knows how many of those enrollees were previously uninsured.

    Like his famous "If you like your plan, you can keep your plan" lie, this latest pronouncement will be the butt of late-night jokes within a couple of years.

  • yankees27 Heber, Utah
    April 17, 2014 3:54 p.m.

    FT- success doesn't come from 8 million people (especially when over 2 million of those are people who were just re-insuring themselves after getting tossed earlier because of Obamacare) signing up, success will only come if this program doesn't continually need to be subsidized at our expense. Obama, said himself that success will only happen if the youth get on board and help fund this venture. Well, they didn't! Will they next year? Maybe. But even my older kids didn't buy in, and probably won't. They will wait until they get coverage from their jobs (maybe, fingers crossed) because they all believe they are invincible. If the youth won't buy in, the rest of us middle aged and older will see our premiums skyrocket. And then what?

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    April 17, 2014 4:28 p.m.

    First off,
    signing up for an account on the exchange is NOT signing up for health insurance, let alone signing up for health care as BO disingenuously stated.

    Second,
    glaringly absent from the announcement was any information on how many have actually paid a premium, which is necessary for insurance to be in place.

    Third,
    Also absent is the percentage of those who may have actually paid for insurance are getting subsidies.

    Fourth,
    Nothing in the WH spin says how many of those people already HAD insurance.

    There is a challenge being held in district court that those signing up on the federal exchange are not eligible for subsidies because the monstrous act says subsidies are available for those who sign up on exchanges established by the states; only an IRS ruling decided the Federal exchange qualified.

    Just more spin from liars who do nothing but campaign.

    Henry,
    We are dead set against it because we saw from MA that it does not work. It does nothing to control costs and encourages graft. We learn from our mistakes - are liberals/dems incapable of learning?

  • CA. reader Rocklin, CA
    April 17, 2014 5:09 p.m.

    Gee, the know-it-alls claimed there were up to 43 million people without health insurance. What happened to the other 35 million? Maybe it turns out they kept their coverage and their doctors. Oh, I forgot, that was a lie too.

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    April 17, 2014 5:36 p.m.

    Ah the poor Right Wingers struggling to defame Obamacare are so stressed and conflicted.

    Conflicted? .. . You ask. Well yes, conflicted.

    Republicans in Congress stubbornly refused to help design Obamacare. They refused to represent their voters back home in shaping the MOST IMPORTANT LAW of century, and now they complain.

    They complain about Obamacare, and in doing so, they are complaining about themselves and the hopeless lack of leadership, political savvy, and common sense in the Republican party.

    Republicans really do have a LOT to complain about, don't they?

  • the truth Holladay, UT
    April 17, 2014 5:46 p.m.

    What he doesn't tell you is only about 1.5 million are paying into the system,
    while 6.5 million are taking from the system.

    That is system setup for failure and massive debt.

    and almost none of those 6.5 million were uninsured before.

    So the uninsured are not being insured.

    another failure.

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    April 17, 2014 6:06 p.m.

    Hey Lost in DC -

    First off, second, third, AND fourth . . . . "8 million signed up for health care"

    Things are looking up for America.

    Isn't it great Obama and the Democrats are ready, willing, and ABLE to help this nation?

    Lord knows the Republicans aren't doing anything for America.

  • David Centerville, UT
    April 17, 2014 7:52 p.m.

    Americans don't believe Obama anymore and yet he believes he can simply throw out numbers and we'll accept them.

    Obama needs to open the books and allow an independent evaluation of how Obamacare is being implemented, the costs, where we are now, and where we are heading. Until he allows for an independent verification and evaluation of Obamacare, there will continue to be a huge group of voters who will doubt, and vote against Democrats in the next election.

    Just because Obama says something doesn't make it true. In fact, we have repeatedly seen the opposite.

  • bandersen Saint George, UT
    April 17, 2014 7:57 p.m.

    Gary o: Is this like the war on poverty that was declared by the Democratic Party 50 years ago and now after billions of dollars in spending we have more in poverty and more on food stamps than ever? How right wing do you have to be to not see those numbers. I mean really, 50 years of failure and still wanting more from the people who work and pay the bills? Oh, I see, health care will certainly do as promised and those who actually have paid attention to the numbers are sticking their heads in the sand and just don't trust our principled and good hearted politicians. come on. Gary o, just be honest about the track record of the our government's promises! Health care is just the latest charade bought hook, line, and sinker by the socialist dreamers, if people would just trust them with everything! Come, Gary o, just tell me with a straight face that Washington is a place to place all your hopes and dreams because, for sure, we all know how remarkable their success has been and how trustworthy they are! please!

  • Avenue Vernal, UT
    April 17, 2014 8:58 p.m.

    @GaryO
    "Isn't it great Obama and the Democrats are ready, willing, and ABLE to help this nation?"

    If democrats were "ABLE to help this nation", why haven't they? Obama has doubled our national debt, attacked our first and second amendment rights, trashed our health care system, and made much of the American population dependent on the government.

    I thought the reason we became a country was so we could have a better, more free nation than the one we were dependent on. Most politicians today are not "ready, willing, and ABLE to help this nation", but our making the situation worse. Our great nation is falling, and I am surprised and saddened that most of the American people cannot see that.

  • SCfan clearfield, UT
    April 18, 2014 6:54 a.m.

    Why doesn't Obama just come out and say that 40 million people signed up for it. How would we know any different? The press is doing everything to cover for his mistakes anyway. This so called landmark legislation began with one of the biggest Presidential lies in history, and you all know it because it will be Obamas legacy line.

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    April 18, 2014 7:26 a.m.

    Hey Banderson -

    You’re still wrong.

    The War on Poverty is not a failure. We have much less poverty now than we had prior to its implementation, in SPITE of all the lies and misrepresentations put forth by Paul Ryan and Right Wing faux “News” organizations.

    Actually, the track record of our government at keeping promises is pretty good . . . EXCEPT when Republicans are in power. We shouldn’t be surprised at this. It would be naïve of us to expect decent governance from government-hating Right Wingers in government positions.

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    April 18, 2014 7:30 a.m.

    Much like mitts loss, reality is just to harsh to address when it comes the ACA, it just can't, can't work because the guys on the radio said it wouldn't.

    When I read "Americans don't believe Obama anymore" I think to myself, I've been reading comments from these same folks who have never believed anything about Obama, literally from his birth. So it's no surprise what they think, the same thing, always.

  • skeptic Phoenix, AZ
    April 18, 2014 8:38 a.m.

    It is the private sector insurance companies that are selling the insurance policies and therefore ultimately the numbers have to come from them, so are those against ACA saying the American insurance companies are all liars. That is doubtful, because how would that them. It is more likely that those opposed to their less fortunate and poorer neighbors receiving ACA health care are jealous and threatened by others prospering. It makes them feel they will no longer be as important or superior.

  • TRUTH Salt Lake City, UT
    April 18, 2014 9:42 a.m.

    There is more poverty today than ever before in the history of this nation and Obamacare is a disaster. We have 50 million uninsured and of the 8 Obama says are insure today which is a lie, none of them were uninsured before....so what was the point of Obamacare if not to insure the uninsured........thus Obamacare after 6 months is a compete FAILURE!

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    April 18, 2014 9:51 a.m.

    To the reviewers. Your double standards on post are unbelievable. There is nothing in the post which has not been used 100's of times by the opposition to the ACA. You allow post that call BO or Democrasts liars all the time. Fair and balanced, you are not!!

    The GOP and its followers continue to hate, lie and distort this law. What's the biggest lie of the ACA was it "you can keep your own insurance (which insurance companies decided against) or was it death panels or death spirals or deficit busters or job killers or you name it.
    I had a client who's wife died of cancer earlier this year. He had insurance through work but the medical bills far exceeded the cap and he has to declare bankruptcy. As a life long Republican who was opposed to ACA he now regrets it. The ACA is going to enrich peoples lives, make people more responsible, and our society stronger.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    April 18, 2014 11:23 a.m.

    GaryO
    Why do you continually repeat the untruth that the GOP refused to participate in the framing of Obamacare? They were EXCLUDED. There is a difference.

    It is such a mitigated disaster, though, they should THANK nancy for excluding them.

    GaryO
    NO, 8 million did NOT sign up for health care. They enrolled in an INSURANCE EXCHANGE. An exchange is NOT health care. Is your case so weak you need to use untruths to defend it?

    Skeptic,
    You mean BO is blameless for repeating false numbers? C’mon, admit he lied – he does it all the time. You’re not really such a skeptic concerning BO now, are you?

    FT,
    Nothing in the posts against Obamacare that have not been used before – you have a problem with the truth being repeated?

    The dems and their followers continue to hate, lie and distort the GOP.

    You excuse BO’s lie about keeping your policy because of what insurers did? What is there about BO’s emphatic PERIOD! at the end of his promise you do not understand?

    Obamacare is going to destroy people’s lives and livelihoods, make people less responsible (let Obamacare pay my premiums), and bankrupt our society.

  • freedom in 2017 SLC, UT
    April 18, 2014 11:32 a.m.

    barry's numbers include children under their parent's policies....the lies and distortion never cease with this guy.

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    April 18, 2014 1:07 p.m.

    To "Henry Drummond" you do know that Obama is cooking the books. The fact is that the 8 million number is based on all sorts of lies. For example, the number he is citing now is all of the people listed as needing insurance through the ACA web sites. This includes people that have signed up for multiple accounts because their first attempt did not work. The 8 million also includes children under age 18, which are not part of the goal of 35% between 18 and 34. The number also includes people who have signed up for insurance, but have not paid for insurance.

    To "FT" you realize that even the left wing fact checkers have found that Obama lied when he said that you could keep your insurance. The ACA does include death panels, they call them panels to determine the most cost effective treatment that will be covered for certain illnesses. The CBO says that the ACA will add to the deficit, and they have even found that it has cut jobs or at least cut the number of hours worked at many jobs. The GOP has been telling the truth, only liberals refuse to accept it.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    April 18, 2014 5:25 p.m.

    "There is more poverty today than ever before in the history of this nation and Obamacare is a disaster."

    Again, a blatantly false statement. There is not a single source that can back this up. In 1959.. you remember the good old days.... there were about 40 million Americans living in poverty. That was when the US population was 177,829,628. Today we have about 46.2 million in poverty... with a population of above 310 million.

    So about doubt the population. But not even close to double the number of poor. In fact only 15% more.

    Again..... if you don't like what is going up..... just go make stuff up seems to be the answer. "ever before in the history....." Good grief, whats next.

  • the truth Holladay, UT
    April 18, 2014 6:11 p.m.

    @UtahBlueDevil

    46 million is grater than 40 million,

    and with tens of trillions spent.

    It is a failure.

    If the ratio has changed it is only because of capitalism and the great boom in technology has employed more people.

    More welfare would not get you of poverty, or get you a job,
    but just make you comfortable in your poverty.

    Without jobs even the most educated would be unemployed or underemployed. Socialist welfare programs do nothing for that.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    April 18, 2014 8:45 p.m.

    So Truth.... what you are saying is going from almost 1/3 of the countries households living below the poverty line, to current rates of about 15%, is a failure..... all I can say is may we be blessed with many more failures like this.

    Listen, I don't think anyone will argue the existing system is optimal. My wife has taught in public schools in the south here for many years, and she has seen these families stuck in this cycle up close and personal. For some time, she was also part of the Guardian ad Litem program. I used to go with her to check on some of these kids families. Their conditions were deplorable.

    What we've got isn't perfect, and needs improvement - so if there is a better proposal, lets see it. But to pretend the state of the poor is worse now than say the great depression, is to misrepresent history.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    April 19, 2014 10:09 a.m.

    Hmm?

    Fifty million on food stamps.

    If each food stamp fed three, that's half our country being government fed.

    Add the meals to school children, and those on disability, etc.

    It appears more than 15% are below the poverty line.--A nation of increasing poverty.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    April 20, 2014 3:00 p.m.

    Take away government assistance and watch the poverty level soar.