Obama blew it when he took away the missile defenses, and downsized our
military.Who would stop Russia from taking all of Europe? Should have listened to Mitt.
I am sure these Russians are just quaking in their boots. Just think we are
freezing their access to their petty cash funds. Want to witness a great nation
in decline, follow Obama and his weak-knee approach. The U.S. now speaks softly
and carries a wet noodle as punishment. A sad day for freedom, a great day for
I'm not sure why Obama/Kerry can interfere and aid in the disrupting of the
pro Russian Ukraine regime and the installation of the Pro Nazi regime and then
turn around and punish Russia for trying to protect its own interest without
incurring some very serious consequences to all peace on the planet and
especially place the US in a no win situation. It seams that Obama
has been baiting the Russians into war with the Syrian crisis and now in the
Ukraine. Where is the wisdom and restraint that should prevail?
Suggestions? Should we defend the poor people of Crimea--90% Russians--against
their obvious and overwhelming desire to be part of their own nation again? What
happened to the principle of self-determination? What difference does it make if
Crimea joins Russia again? Most of the province was leased by Russia anyway.
This whole discussion is ridiculous.
@worfWhat would Mr. Romney have done to prevent Russia from taking
Crimea? I see you that are a hawk who wants to go to war. You ready to pick up
a rifle? You ready to send your sons to fight in another war in a far away
land? @ThiddlerWhat do you want the President to do?
Do you expect a full-scale military invasion? So many arm-chair,
Monday morning conservatives out there with no actual ideas - just criticism.
Let's hear your plans besides "we hate Obama" and "let's
go to war."
@CHSYour use of the term conservative and others use of the word
liberal is so much a part of the big picture problem. It's really just the
Hegelian dialectic at work. All of you so called or self labeled
conservatives/liberals cannot see past your own narrow view points. The
immediate past Bush administration and the current Obama administration are on
the same exact course and that's the destruction of America.The
13/14 year war in Iraq/Afghanistan has strung out our military to near
disastrous consequences. Almost every reserve or guard unit in the nation has
been deployed more than 3 or 4 times. For what purpose? The war on the
constitution is in full battle dress and George Bush Jr referred to the
constitution is a GD piece of paper. It is self evident every day that Barrack
Obama is ignoring and seemingly intentionally disregarding his sworn duty to
uphold it. I think we have as many domestic enemies as foreign. The red herrings, the straw men, the diversionary garbage is completely
obscuring our vision of the real dangers and consequences.God, help
us, is my petition.
That could help. A gradual application of pressure involving personal monetary
loss might convince some of Russia's movers and shakers to use their
persuasive skills on Putin.Even if it works though and Russia gives
up on the Crimea, Putin will try to save face somehow.A good old
fashioned military coup might be just the ticket to resolve the Putin
problem.I wonder now many wealthy top Russian brass have assets we
When oh when will we learn to mind our own business. The US has illegally
invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, yet we hypocritically criticize Russia when
we have done the same thing, only worse: we illdd thousands of Iraqis and the
same in Afghanistan; additionally, we caused the illegal execution of a foreign
leader, vis-a-vie, Sadam, who, by the way, never at any time threatened the US
in any manner.Too, we need to mind our own business, and heed the
words of President Washington and the Monroe Doctrine: Stay out of the
affairs/entanglements of foreign nations. Truly we are a double minded people.
America deserves anything that happens to them. I'm so sick of them
policing the world. No more war and mind your own business.
This is all just the consequences of a weak America. We are weak because of
Barack Obama and what strength we have left is in spite of his cuts. Russia has
no fear of the US anymore. None. That is all on Barack Obama. Russia well knows
what the cuts to our military mean for the future and so does China and they
will increase their agressive land grab going forward as the US stands and
watches ..and gives meaningless speeches at the UN. The financial sanctions
won't do much ...Russia has Europe in their pocket with oil and gas. The US
could be just as strong with oil and gas and independent of the middle east but
we have a president who will not drill on public land or devolop pipelines or
make use of the vast amounts of energy we have right here. Think also of the
high paying jobs that would and could create. It is sad and sickening to watch
this country decline like this but again...elections have consequences. If we
were strong the likelihood of war is less. If we are weak the likelihood goes
way up. Something to think about.
His hollow "threat" is far less dangerous than what he has been doing to
the traditional family and people of Christian faith.
Patriot - When did the Russians fear America? And when did that fear cause them
not to invade a nation?Russia (the Soviet Union) gobbled up a good
part of Eastern Europe after WWII, and when Hungary rebelled in 1996, the
Russians brutally suppressed that rebellion with Red Army tanks literally
rolling over Hungarians. Are you actually recommending that America
confronts Russia with military force?Any claim that the US could
replace Russia as an energy source for Eastern Europe in the near future is pure
nonsense. Domestic oil and gas production has increased by leaps and bounds here
in the US since Obama became President, but getting it to Europe would take a
lot of money for infrastructure that has not been economically feasible for
private industry to do.Are you suggesting that the Federal
government should build that infrastructure.Apparently all
Obama-hating Right Wingers can do is complain.They certainly
can't come up with any rational solutions to ANY problem.All
Right Wingers can offer is nonsense on top of more nonsense.
IMO we as a world including the US are plagued with a serious problem - we are
almost all governed by a ruling class of people who see their role as
controlling the masses. I include congress and state government. There may be
exceptions but it appears to me that these people aspire to membership in the
ruling class by proper schooling, election to minor office and then going along
to get along and invited into the group from which they struggle to rise to the
top. They tell us what we want to hear, or they think what we want
to hear, stifle dissent and work money and media to neutralize opposition.That being said, I don't think the US in this weakened and
fractured state politically, will do or is able to do anything of substance in
this matter. Europe can't get their act together and will roll over.The Chinese, and maybe India, will take notes and engage in adventures
in their long term self interest.Even if we, the people of the US
wanted to do something, our leaders are incompetent to do much more than fill
out their bracket sheets and hold press conferences.
"Obama blew it when he took away the missile defenses, and downsized our
military."worf, do you have a fear of Putin launching missiles
at Poland? Downsized or military? Really? Care to tell us exactly what has been
downsized and how that affects our military readiness and strength? "Who would stop Russia from taking all of Europe?"Uh. . .
You think Russia is planning in taking all of Europe? "Should
have listened to Mitt."And what did Mitt say? Other then that he
would have put us in a war with Iran by now, and most likely with Syria, and
Lybia, as well as keeping all the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. "The U.S. now speaks softly and carries a wet noodle as
punishment."Thidder, what would you suggest? Going to war with
Russia over Crimea? Will you be one that gets deployed?"This is
all just the consequences of a weak America.""patriot",
care to discuss exactly what cuts have been made to the military and exactly how
they have weakened the military? Care to tell us what you are comparing our
military to when you say it's weak?
@wolf"Obama blew it when he took away the missile defenses, and
downsized our military."I'd still like to know how missile
defense shields (which have an abysmal track record of doing what they claim to
do anyway) have any effect against tanks and ground troops. Downsizing our military is meaningless to this conflict, we still have the
largest defense budget in the world, by a lot, and we aren't going to fight
Russia either way so the number of troops we aren't fighting with
doesn't make a difference. @patriotA higher defense
budget didn't stop Russia from actually fighting with Georgia during
Bush's 2nd term. (Personally I think Bush handled that about as well as he
could, given that there's not all that much we could or should about it,
much like the current issue). "The US could be just as strong
with oil and gas"Natural gas production has increased rapidly,
and the reason we don't sell LNG to Europe is because it's not
profitable so unless you want to socialize the energy sector, we're not
going to be a viable natural gas alternative for Europe.
This is an issue for the people of Ukraine to resolve, hopefully peacefully and
democratically. The US should not have been involved. McCain, and State Dept.
persons should not have been in Kiev marching with protestors telling them the
US is backing them and paying protestors. The previous Ukraine administration
was corrupt. Those that overthrew them are thugs. The US weapons manufacturers
will likely be selling them military weapons. Seems like the US is all over the
world creating a market for military weapons which the weapons industry is happy
re:GaryOWhen did Russia fear America? Seriously? During the Reagan
presidency the USSR folded because they couldn't keep up with the US arms
build up. Following Reagan the new Russia stayed in its box until Barack Obama.
Just like little Jimmy Carter the bad guys laugh at Obama and they release a
sigh of relief knowing the same little man that folded like a cheap lawn chair
in Syria with his ridiculous red lines will continue to fold. They are sadly
correct. The Russian bear is most agressive when it has nothing to fear and that
is certainly the case at present. Peace through stength was the Reagan doctine
and it ended the cold war. Now we cut our military and make hollow theats and
what happens?? More and more conflicts will happen simply because not Russia or
China or Iran fear the US anymore. Teddy Roosevelt said "walk softly and
carry a BIG stick". Obama says walk softly...actually running would be
better ...and make speeches. Again Obama is the laughing stock of the world and
especially where the bad guys are concerned.
re:Schneethe aggression and outright disregard that Russia has shown
during the Obama years is unmatched perhaps since Russia fought in Afghanastan.
Reagan ..if you recall...took a floundering US defense from Jimmy Carter and the
liberals and turned the thing around 180 degree's. The result - the USSR
folded. When a leader shows strength the bad guys stay put ...or they get
crushed as happend with Saddam Hussin. The ONLY thing leaders like Putin
understand is strength. Putin isn't fooled by Barack's silly
telepromter speeches and his Syria - like red lines. Putin is a KGB hard shell
and Obama is a ....well you get the picture.
re:GaryOWow ... where do I start??1. Reagan took a
floundering US military away from little Jimmy Carter and rebuilt it and the
USSR folded. Historians all agree the USSR folded because they couldn't
keep pace with the US arms build up.2. When you are strong - you AVOID
war. When you are weak you INVITE war. Hard for a liberal to grasp I understand
but the truth remains. Of course we don't confront Russia and that's
the whole point of being strong Gary - when you are strong the bad guys
WON'T want to confront you but when you are weak they see an
opportunity.3. The US needs to be energy independent so they can not
continually be drug into conflicts in the Persain gulf. We drill and frack on US
soil for OUR OWN needs ....not for Europe. We have the resources here ...we just
don't have a leader in the White House who has the will or the
understanding. I would suggest looking back into history Gary and
paying more attention to when America was strong and when it was weak (like
now). What made the difference? People like Putin know for sure!!
The Crimea was part of Russia proper for centuries and only allocated to the
Ukraine as part of the Soviet Union, and once the breakup of the USSR happened
it also came across to the Ukraine. This was intended to allow the mostly
Russian population to have influence in the Ukraine and keep a close alliance
with first the USSR and and then Russia - it was an interesting move but the
seed planted for the problems today. It is unrealistic for the US to have
expected any other outcome of the referendum given the circumstances with our
without Russian pressure and military threat. We should strengthen our ties
with the Ukraine economically and strenghten our ties with Poland, Hungary and
other former satelites as a counter balance to Putin the Conqueror.President Obama is being illogical in taking such a strong stance against
Russia literally on their door step when he let Syria cross the "red
line" with chemical weapons...his weakness in that instance has provoked
Russia in this...wrong time to play Clint Eastwood, and the wrong person...Putin
WILL NOT backdown.
I am not a big fan of either Putin or Obama. However, I have to say that the US
policy of unconditionally taking the side of whoever opposes Russia does not
earn America respect - especially in Russia - even among Russians that are
opposed to Putin. Soviet Union went down when Russians started respecting
America and looking toward it with hope. That respect came from seeing the good
side of America - a nation of faith and opportunity to achieve that wants others
to have the same blessings. Putin came when Russians realized their hopes have
been betrayed - America could not quite teach them what made it strong because
it had forgotten the values that did make it strong replacing them with mere
tokens and cliches. For Putin and his likes to go down America needs to
re-establish its credibility in the eyes of ordinary Russians. Neither Romney or
Obama could do it - unfortunately a president that could lead us in that cause
is currently unelectable.
@patriotWhy do you keep bringing up that President Obama uses a
teleprompter?I'm guessing you've never seen a Republican
use a teleprompter - including Reagan, Bush, Bush II, etc? If you haven't
please take off your conservative-colored lenses and see that they all do. If a teleprompter means you're weak, then we've been week for
a very, very long time.
@patriotThank goodness no Republican has ever used a teleprompter!
If you are naïve enough to believe the drivel that a
teleprompter makes one weak, then you need to change your news sources.
Not one single suggestion from our Right wing in any of these comments. Not a
single valid idea. This is what is wrong with the Conservatives....everything
is Obama's fault! No matter what. It's getting to be offensive! Then
when they get pushed that they throw the traditional family card that Obama
has supposedly destroyed the traditional family.....and when that doesn't
work they throw the religion card! I wonder which "God" they are
referring to? The Muslim God, The Christian God, The Jewish God, The Catholic
God? on and on...So which one? The right wing Obama haters are getting really
nothing accomplished. They only look more and more foolish. Here's an idea.
Give a constructive and valid suggestion on how to solve the problems! Health
care, equal rights, family issues and education.
"patriot" - 1. No, I bought a used Chevy Pickup, and the
USSR folded. Reagan had no more to do with the demise of the USSR than any
President since Truman. Tremendous military spending capped by a demoralizing
loss in Afghanistan was the final nail in the USSR’s coffin. 2. During the cold war, a policy of mutually assured destruction kept the USSR
and the US from coming to blows militarily. That policy with Russia is still in
effect, and although we can probably destroy Russia with nuclear weapons 10
times over, and they can only destroy us 5 times over, dead is still dead. And
sane people generally want themselves and their families to survive . . . Thus
the inadvisability of attacking Russia militarily. We don’t need to spend
so much money on the military. Eisenhower wisely warned us of the military
industrial complex.3.Domestic oil and gas production has increased
dramatically during Obama’s time in office. But of course, we still need
to be protective of the environment and “secure the the blessings of
liberty to ourselves and our posterity.I would suggest you read some
history (not bogus Right Wing Propaganda).
barry and his continual drivel.....sanctions, cross the line, ........same ol
same ol. obama needs to come up with new tough talk. all hat and no cattle
perfectly describes barry.
@CHS 85:People, or countries don't start conflicts if the other
is strong.Our country has gone from a Mike Tyson to a Michael
Jackson. The Ronald Reagan presidency was proof of strength
preventing conflicts. Russia wouldn't be doing this if Mitt had won.Carrying a big stick does wonders for preserving peace. This country is more concerned with gay marriage rights than having a strong
military. presence. Pathetic!
@Schnee:High funding means very little.We have high
funding for weak education.I doubt we're any stronger than
Russia, or China.
What if Russia, and China drops the dollar currency?
Wow? Sanctions? What a meaningless UN type of thing to do! Whatever happened to
that bold, fearless, and decisive president we used to know, who willingly
popped off a couple of crazed, inept pirates in their souped up dinghy? Wow
leftist used to brag about that, in an effort to convince themselves that this
guy is a world leader. How embarrassing!!
Obama has later said if sanctions don't work he will have John Kerry throw
his war medals over the White House wall. That ought scare the Russians into
Instead of nuking half the world with missiles, take away the oligarchs
ownership of the Brooklyn Nets and Harrods valet parking.
The stock market is tanking because of the Russian threat?
@ Patriot and other war hawks.It's funny that Utah with the lowest
recruitment per capita is always top on the list to send other people's
sons and daughters into war. Ar e you ready to ride with the Light Brigade again
in the Crimea? Or just ready to send someone else into the valley of death?
@DraglineThere are plenty Utah unsong heros risking there lives
right now today. When the State Department needs foreign language speakers that
are patriotic and can be trusted with a clearance they go to Utah first.Not to mention that having a backbone is often enough to keep a war from
happening. If you turn tail and run a predator will chase you down every time.
You have to just love Liberal hypocrisy.Any criticism Obama's
record on the economy, foreign policy, Obamacare, or other disasters under his
watch must be "hate" or "racism." Maybe you Leftists
should've taken your own advice when Bush was President. Where was your
compassion and understanding when Bush was President. Funny how things change.
Sorry, but your man has been President for over 5 years now. This is his
record!The fact is, Obama has made our nation a laughing stock
around the world. Putin and other world thugs watched as our Glorious Dear
Leader began his presidency with his pathetic Apology Tour. They've
watched his continual ever moving lines in the sand. They've watched him
gut our military. They've watched him focus more effort in making sure the
rest of the world is forced to accept the LGBT lifestyle, than true
diplomacy.Obama is the worst thing that has ever happened to this
country. This is what happens when you twice elect a man who hates his own
nation. We are witnessing Obama's "Fundamental Transformation" of
our nation.This is some Hope and Change.