And Democrats call the GOP "the party of no"? Obama's way or the
Don't forget the country had a choice on the ACA in the last presidential
@ Selznick. Its hard to win elections against Santa Claus with all his
"free" gifts and entitlements. Now, if we can only find a way to pay for
it all. After all by the time we elect a new President we will owe our
grandchildren $20 trillion and they won't mind, will they? As long as we
get ours! Selling our children's birthright for a free lunch today!
It's about time he started stepping up. We could have had a proper health
care system instead of this.
the king of community organizers giving advise....classic, especially in light
of his vast leadership experience. it is interesting to see that even with
barry's track record of nothing his supporters continue to follow him.
what a country.
So much for Mr. Obama's promise for a post-partisan approach to politics.
Compromise seems to apply only to the other guy.
@MountanmanAs opposed to the Republicans who want to defund Obamacare and
if they don't get what they want they'll let the gov't be shut
down? Compromise involves both sides giving up something. Instead Republicans
are hostage takers, threatening to shoot the economy if their demands
When the POTUS treats the repubs the way they have treated him the repubs and
their fans complain...What goes around has come around.
@HemlockCompromise involves both sides offering something. In this case
Republicans are giving up letting the economy crash in exchange for Obama giving
up his healthcare law. Apparently Republicans consider destroying our economy to
be something of value...
I think Republicans could call for increasing the debt limit AND delaying
implementation of the ACA. The insurance exchanges are not ready. Government
agencies are not ready for the ACA either. It needs to be delayed one year as
it has been for businesses.Likewise, Congress and other political
leaders should not exempt themselves from this law or any law. Certainly Obama,
Democrats and Republicans can agree upon these things.One final
item: Obama and the Senate must submit a real budget. How can politicians,
especially Obama, justify raising the debt ceiling when he and the Senate have
failed to pass a budget for the past 4 years?
If you actually read the Republicans demands they are essentially telling the
president that they are going to force the nation into default unless he enacts
Mitt Romney's agenda. Romney lost. You'll have another chance in 2016,
until then it's not going to happen.
Selznick2010 was about obamacare, and BO got creamed. 2012 was about much
more than obamacare.HemlockBO has NEVER meant to be
bi-partisan. His first comments “the repubs can come along if they want,
but they’ll have to ride in the back” were just the beginning. He
is continually calling names and belittling those who disagree with him. But
what can you expect, that is typical dem behavior.atl134,Like
BO who will shut down the government if doesn’t get what he wants? The
repubs HAVE compromised – they allowed a tax hike. BO hasn’t. To
be fair, he tried once, but harry and chuckie undercut him.In this
case BO is letting the economy crash rather than delay the implementation of his
horrible health insurance law that is already crashing the economy. Obamacare
is more important to him than every other function of government. harry and BO
can prevent the government shutdown, but they want it so they can score
political pointsThereyougoThe repubs are not treating BO with
anywhere near the disrespect and disdain he shows them.
Two years ago Pres. Obama volunteered that we should cut $4 trillion from the
deficit. Yeah for him! He wanted a symbolic increase in taxes for the rich
based on his principle of fairness. He got that out.Now, it is
time, after talking for decades, it is finally time to sit down and start
cutting somethings. I would propose means testing wealthy retirees so we are
not subsidizing an AARP lifestyle. Hutterite would like to cut military
spending. Hey, that's probably OK.Ok, Pres. Obama, it is time
to start cutting. You've gotten your symbolic increase in taxes on the
wealthy. It is time. Start cutting. $4 trillion is the mark.Or
was this all a bluff Oh, you mean like your red line? Well, the GOP isn't
bluffing and you are. Give in. Say you've "evolved".
@DavidIt's not unreasonable, but the way the GOP has been
approaching the Health Care debate has been unreasonable. The GOP had the
Presidency, the Senate, and the House from 2000-2006 and did NOTHING about
Health Care except pass Medicare Part D, which was a big money giveaway to the
Pharmaceutical Industry. This program wasn't paid for...along with the two
wars started during this time.I personally would prefer a
single-payer system to take the burden off the employers, or failing that, a
government option to keep the other Insurance Companies honest. If they say
governement is inefficient, then why did they go running for toilet paper when
they thought they would have to compete with a government option. There is no
true free market now--just a monopoly of a few conglomerates who have the
Congress on the payroll.As for the Senate passing a budget, how can
they do anything with the 60-vote rule? A Ted Cruz or Mike Lee could stop
everything. They remind me of the kids on the beach who lie in wait to knock
over the sand castles that people build--and are about as logical as these kids.
So the president wants to continue implementing the economic stifling ACA (that
only individuals will have to follow because the mandate has been delayed a year
for businesses) then increase the debt ceiling?We the American
people already demonstrated how we feel about this issues in 2010. Don't
blame the few like Ted Cruz who do not want bankrupting the country on their
hands during their watch.We are tired of CRs. Where the heck is the
budget. And quit saying the republicans are to blame because they only block
and never come up with anything. They have submitted two major budget plans
that were rejected by Reid and the senate.At this point I say go all
in. Let Pres. Obama and the democrats have their way. Let them bankrupt
America and the world. And let be know that it was them that did it, because
republicans were called on to "compromise."
wildcat,why is the government's resonsiblilty to provide
healthcare?I can say the dems have had control of the WH and senate
since 2008, but they haven't stopped my snoring. shame on them! bad
America is moving from the post-Cold-War economy to a modern economy. We still
pay a huge part of our budget for Vietnam-era military weapons. We need to
shift the budget to taking care of our citizens.Obamacare is a
leading-edge plan that will pay great dividends to us soon. ACA's
preventive health care, shared access and coverage will elevate our care for
each other. Shifting from an offensive/defensive nation to a
take-care-of-each-other nation is indeed the future.There is a
religious element to this, but I won't get into that.
atl134Trouble is, all of you Obama supporters have always claimed
the Republicans just want to have it their way or no way. Now your guy is doing
the same. You can't defend Obama for doing what you say the Republicans
are doing. Can't have it both ways.
Do you think that Republicans would give Obama any credit for caving into GOP
demands? Or would they crow about Obama "backing down" and how
"weak" any compromise would show him to be? No. He has made the correct
decision, and the public will eventually see how looney the GOP approach really
So Mark B, with you it is all about making conservatives bow down and worship.
I will just remind you that in the end, we are all in the same
country. If your party 'wins' at all cost, the cost is the well-being
of the country, and everyone in it. It is very clear that the ACA is
not affordable, nor does it allow us to keep our current plans because they are
disappearing from the market. It is not ready to implement, and it just may be
that it is so big and cumbersome, 2400 pages of cumbersome, that it will never
be ready, because it will never work.I look at Primary
Children's Hospital, Shriner's Hospital, St Jude's, etc, and see
that we are totally capable of taking care of the poor without the federal
government taking over health care.The conservatives don't want
the ACA, and the liberals don't want it either (because they want a single
payer system). Clearly the ACA is not what anyone wants, so why fund it?Oh yeah, because stomping on the conservatives is what is important to
liberals, I remember now.
The problem with Obama, is that you can't trust the words coming out of his
‘Obama's no-negotiation stance setting new tone’Exactly what is new about Obama refusing to negotiate? It is exactly what we
have seen for 5 1/2 years now.
Badger, ACA has passed all three branches of government. It has similarities
with the systems of dozens of other countries, none of which have returned to
anything like our old system. "Bow down and worship" is your term, not
mine, but when the GOP line seems to be "give us everything we demand, or
the country gets it", we can be sure that politics has never left the top of
their list since McConnell described his job as removing Obama.
Obama behind the wheel in heavy traffic is scary. This guy has road rage.
I am impressed with Obama's patience with Republicans considering all the
things that have been thrown at him. Accusing him of "road rage" is like
describing worf as "funny". Heh.
Impressed with someone transforming our country into a third world country is
worf, would accusing Obama of "road rage" be like accusing Texans of not
having enough self-esteem? As for the 3rd world thing, how long do we have until
your prediction is judged to have been wrong?
Over half our people are on benefits, in debt, and being fed by a government
seventeen trillion dollars in debt. That's $560,000 for every second in a
year. I'd say we're already a third world country, and getting
further in decline.If Obama was a football coach, people would be
wanting him fired.
Lost in DC,How do you figure the 2010 election was about the ACA.
It was a typical mid term election when the economy is struggling and the party
out of control picks up a lot of seats. I know you like to pretend like the
2012 election didn't happen, but with the economy still bad, with the
horrible ACA, with all the other horrible things that the President has done,
why did he win in a landslide? Why did a lot of republicans not even vote? Why
did the republicans not regain the Senate? Wait I will answer the
question, it was the 47% that get all the government giveaways. It was the
press that lies and distorts the poor republicans.I have an idea,
how about the republicans come up with some ideas to solve the health care
issue? Anyone can say no, but it takes real leaders to put a plan in place.
President Obama should not have to compromise. He won the election. The
election served as a mandate to him and his programs, most notably Obamacare.
What is wrong with allowing the majority of American's to have
their way? I'm asking all you 'haters' out there?