Isn't it interesting that he didn't say gays should be allowed to
@chris bIsn't it interesting you skipped right over this in the
article "his insistence that priests be pastors, not bureaucrats?" I am
sure the pope personally apposes gay marriage but he has the decency of not
using his pulpit as a weapon in the culture wars, kin of his whole point
throughout the article.
Spring, what does "appose" mean?
@ ChrisB: You are half right - the Pope did not say that the Catholic Church
should start marrying same-sex couples.The interviewer states,
"...there are Christians who live in situations that are irregular for the
church or in complex situations that represent open wounds. I mention the
divorced and remarried, same-sex couples and other difficult situations. What
kind of pastoral work can we do in these cases? What kinds of tools can we
use?"To which the Pope replied, "In Buenos Aires I used to
receive letters from homosexual persons who are ‘socially wounded’
because they tell me that they feel like the church has always condemned them.
But the church does not want to do this. During the return flight from Rio de
Janeiro I said that if a homosexual person is of good will and is in search of
God, I am no one to judge. By saying this, I said what the catechism says.
Religion has the right to express its opinion in the service of the people, but
God in creation has set us free: it is not possible to interfere spiritually in
the life of a person."
Maudine,I agree a homosexual people should not be judged.
Homosexual actions can be judged just as any other sin can be judged. Judge the
sin, not the person.
Sorry, is against
@ Chris B: The Pope said nothing about same-sex marriage - for or against. He
said the Catholic Church should worry about souls not politics or laws, since a
sin is religious and not social.
@chris bI find it highly telling that you would place ourself above the
pope who has stated it is not his place to judge others?
Yourself not ourself
spring,I don't answer to the pope.
no? well you certainly hold yourself as a higher moral; authority then the pope
holds himself which is tlling
@ Chris B: Your first comment is that the Pope didn't say gays should be
allowed to marry. In your 3rd post, you state that homosexuality is a sin.
Spring points out to you that the Pope said not to judge, to which you reply
that you don't answer to the Pope.If you don't answer to
the Pope when it comes to casting judgement, why should anyone care whether or
not the Pope supports same-sex marriage? Don't same-sex couples have the
same right to claim that they don't answer to the Pope?You
actually have hit the nail on the head - same-sex marriage should not be
prohibited because the US government does not answer to any religious
organization, whether it be the Pope, the LDS Prophet, an evangelical leader, or
any religious figurehead.
@Chris BAnd the Pope's entire point, which you missed, is that he
feels the church needs to place more emphasis on service, helping others, not
focusing on judging actions, particularly when everyone knows the church view on
the matter. Beating it over someone's head is hardly useful though some
people seem to take a certain glee in it.
"It is useless to ask a seriously injured person if he has high cholesterol
and about the level of his blood sugars!" Francis said. "You have to
heal his wounds. Then we can talk about everything else."Very
nicely put, Mr. Francis.The LDS Church could learn a lot from this
man. Instead of sending out 80,000 naive young salespeople trying to beat the
world over the head with "We are the one and only true and living
Church!" - nobody cares how "true" you arrogantly think you are.Heal wounds!And leave alone those of us who are not wounded.
Pope Francis has a moral conscience which makes him struggle. It is ever thus.
I like the man.