Just what is wrong with people?
Will barack use this as a platform to rail against guns or rail against gun
violence by African Americans?
What's wrong with people?That's a long answer. But for now, lets
make sure next time the guards on the base are fully loaded to handle these
The dead shooter was black, no known motivation! If all the people he killed
were white only, consider it a racial strike....worse than Trayvon! If he was
muslim......its obviously like Ft hood! But most likely he was mentally ill,
like Columbine, Sandy Hook, Colorado Theatre, and all the rest! t one thing is
clear, the President will steer clear of this....you watch!
So is this what slavish deference to the second amendment has finally wrought?
Is this what happens when NRA obstruction of even the most innocuous common
sense rules dealing with the spread of lethal weapons, wins the day
Chris B:I'm sure we'll hear O talk about how if 'he
had a son he would look like' Aaron Alexis very soon...Archie1954:I know you and your fellow libs want everyone's guns but
think of it this way: taking away everyone's guns because someone decides
to harm others with a gun would be akin to taking away everyone's ability
to post on this story simply because you made a silly comment.
Now, as we're told time and again, is not the time to talk about gun
control. These things happen often enough that it never seems to be that time.
Yet every time someone gets killed by someone who was drinking, it's time
to 'clamp down'. Stricter laws. More enforcement. What a bunch of
bullpucky we get fed.
13 people are dead and the first thing you guys do is look forward to how it can
make Obama look bad.Stay classy, Utah.
How a tragedy like this can morph into an attack on the president is almost
depressing. Some people are so single minded in their hatred of a particular man
that they allow that man to haunt their thoughts. Also, despite what they
claimed here, the President did directly address the matter. Mind
you, I am not an Obama apologist. I voted for the other candidate. But I also
respect the dignity of the office, and all this mindless rancor and antipathy is
tearing our democratic republican system more than the actions of any one
individual ever could. Please get over it. The President is not attempting to
overthrow our system (and with checks an balances, I doubt he ever could unless
we all allow it); I don't agree with all his policies and decisions, but I
do think he is doing what he thinks is best.Meanwhile, those of us
who disagree with his philosophies will get much further by engaging in
productive debate, not emotional reactive venom.
Remember, concealed weapon permit holders are prohibited from carrying their
guns on any military base, or even keeping them in their car.We
trust military personnel with loaded guns in combat zones, and many are
entrusted with nuclear weapons, or other highly dangerous and very expensive
devices. But, some people decided that we can NOT entrust them with a legally
carried self defense weapon on a military base, not even allowing the option of
a local base commander to authorize even selected personnel to carry.So, criminals ignore laws about having illegal guns on military bases (and
lots of other places- Trolley Square had a "no guns" sign...) and the
laws against murder, and commit their deadly deeds in areas filled with disarmed
victims. Victims who obeyed the law, while the criminals prove again that they
do not obey any laws.End ALL victim disarmament zones! A bad guy with a gun is only stopped by a good guy with a gun, and we should
not have to wait, not even seven minutes, for one to show up.
@OsgrathThe reason this has "morphed" into an attack on the
president is because he inserted himself into the line of fire. Nobody asked
him to do it. He could have steered clear. But he didn't. Instead he
chose to politicize the issue after Sandy Hook, and he did it again during the
Zimmerman trial. He has taken the old political adage "never let a good
tragedy go to waste" to a whole new level.If you don't want
the president attacked when things like this happen, tell him to stay off the
The freedoms that allow people to do great things are often the same freedoms
that a few use to do horrible things. Lets wait for a few more facts to come
out before we try and jump on any bandwagons.
Osgrath. I second your comments. I am not anti-gun. I just wonder where we
draw the line. There are times I feel like the gun lobby considers these mass
shootings nothing more than collateral damage. Can't we at least implement
more thorough background checks on all gun buyers. If criminals are determined
to obtain firearms can't we at least attempt to make it more difficult.
Need more guns.
You folks are insane.13 Americans are killed in a domestic terrorist
act and all you folks can think about is blaming the NRA, Obama, and Trayvon
Martin? It's really time for our Democracy to come together.
You folks need to put your partisan nonsense behind you and become Americans.
Stop trying to take jabs when we should be unifying and serving those whose
families will never be the same.The time is long past to
re-institute the draft. Too many folks here have no concept of life and death
and patriotism. Patriotism isn't writing cheap attacks on our President on
the Internet. Maybe if you folks actually had to fight for your
country you'd understand that.
Maverick. Calling people with whom you disagree insane isn't very rational
nor is it productive. Obama inserted himself into racial politics and increased
the racial tension instead of healing our nation. Obama became just another race
hustler like Sharpton and Jesse Jackson when he should have been a leader. How
can we come together when our "leader" continually is taking racial jabs
at his own country? Obama never had to fight for our country, did he?
"You folks need to put your partisan nonsense behind you and become
Americans."Great, somebody else who knows more than anyone else.
Give it up, Maverick. I served during a very unpopular war and,
among other things, learned that NOBODY likes to be lectured about the evils of
lecturing each other.