It's important to note that what they voted for is an authorization of
limited strikes without ground troops. This would be something along the lines
of what was done in Libya a couple years ago as opposed to something like Iraq
The US should not intervene in Syria, period. No drone strikes, no missiles, no
no-fly zones. Sit this one out folks. We have rushed in enough times. There is
no second government in Syria ready to take over like their was in Libya. There
is no parallel group that can stabilize the area like was done after Egypt. This
is a five-way civil war with numerous militias, none of which have our best
interests in mind. Sending missiles into the middle of all this is not gonna
make it all better.
So, forgive my naivete, doesn't this simply mean that the bill made it out
of committee? Nothing has been "authorized", but one of the
gate-keeping committees decided - in a close vote - to let it go to the floor
for further debate and an actual Senate vote ... in fact, those on the committee
could listen to arguments and change their stance (either way) in the larger
vote based on further discussion ... is that not correct?
It is also important to note that many Republicans who criticized Obama for NOT
getting Congressional approval on Libya (and who disrespectfully call Obama
"King Hussein"), are now complaining because he IS getting Congressional
approval on this situation! It is forcing many Republicans in Congress to expose
their true positions, risking loss of electoral support at a crucial time when
the GOP is trying to take control of the Senate and retain control of the
House.I have been Republican my entire life, and I don't recall
a more partisan, political-game-playing group of Rs in government during my
lifetime. It is no wonder Mitt lost.
Two issues that have me concerned about the administration's request: 1) We
were lied to about Benghazi. How can we be sure he is telling us the truth about
Syria? The truth to Obama seems to be whatever is currently to his political
advantage. 2) Obama botched up the Benghazi mess so badly, do we want such an
incompetent man leading us into Syria? Perhaps if Obama had shown more
competence in the past, we could feel some confidence in what he wants to do.
But, I'm concerned that a former professional community organizer just
doesn't have the wisdom or ability or competence to bring the Syria thing
to a satisfactory conclusion.
I'm sorry, but the U.S. needs to stay out. Why is it our
obligation to be in everyone else's business? I tire of hearing that we
have to defend the defenseless or that if we let someone get away with this or
that, something more atrocious will happen soon. Innocent children die inside
our borders every day. Pretty soon we'll be involved in more wars than we
can handle and we'll crumble from within. Roman Empire anyone?
Here we go again. Do we have all of the news people and cameras over there ready
to go? It's going to be a really-really big shoooow.
And don't say that we do it because we have the ability to do it because we
don't! We don't have the money to get involved in another skirmish.
The taxpayers have already paid millions just to deploy ships and resources into
the reason on the hunch that we will act. Enough is enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No more than 90 days gives Assad advance notice for planning purposes. A lot can
happen in 90 days. A lot can change.
Similar to Iraq when they were able to hide their chemical weapons in Syria with
the preparation time for a military force as we sent into Iraq. After the first
Iraq war, they knew our process even with top secret and secret messages and
plans. If Russia is supporting the Syrian government due to all the military
weapons and business, including oil Russia gets, then they will lock their horns
against our efforts. Russia signed the same chemical weapons treaty we did 20
years ago and has it in-force in Russia. We will see what happens
but the United Nations isn't doing anything with the Treaty, Chemical
Weapons Convention that they sponsored and enforce with billions of dollars from
the United States of America.President Obama is using the Bill
Clinton approach on the definition of "is" on the red line, now. He has
one year to prepare his statement on what he really meant when he used the
"Red Line" during the Romney-Obama campaigns around Benghazi. At least
Ambassador Susan Rice showed her forte with the media and got her top job as
security advisor and gets her picture with the President and in meetings alone.
I've seen it all before. Then only thing I want to know is 5 years from
now, will there still be troops in Syria, and will the writers on this board be
lambasting ex Pres. Obama for getting us into another unfunded war, after
blasting ex Pres Bush for the same thing. One can only wonder.
If they used the test that is implied in some reports, most citizens of the U.S.
would have tested positive also since water fluoridation is quite common. Maybe
we should ask for more government transparency; oh, Obama promised us that
didn't he. . .
Administration after administration takes us into wars, maneuvering and
intervening in foreign affairs. We took Eastern Europe from the
Nazis and let the Red Army in. Then we fought to keep Communist influence
spreading to South Korea and Vietnam. After backing Saddam Hussein we went to
war with him. WE favored the Taliban, then fought against them. We have been
involved in two world wars, a Korean war, the Vietnam war - which we lost, a
Gulf War, an Iraq War, war in Afghanistan, now interventions are sought in Egypt
and in Syria.It seems we attack nations now that didn't attack
us, or we're choosing sides and we don't know the "good" side,
if there is one, is being selected.Partisans of both major parties
are voting us into these conflicts, often against the will of a significant
majority of the American people. Why are both parties so bellicose? Why are
they voting taxpayer billions on, not merely maintaining domestic peactime
forces but, embarking on wars and actions that collectively can cost billions
daily, then tell us we must borrow another trillion or so?How about
another political party? A peaceful, non interventionist one?
Defense contracts and civilian contractors use our hard earned dollars that are
owed to the government for the next 200 years without going into debt more.
Civilian contractors are mercenaries in todays world and even though the
individual workers may not make much. However, the generals and colonels that
run those companies after they retire with a very lucrative income and direct
and indirect benefits don't go hungry and aren't exposed to any enemy
Defense companies gearing up, and their owners and stockholders are licking
their chops.You money hungry, Big Business Republicans happy now?
for crying out loud -- Didn't anyone see the movie "IronMan"?
This is a plan to get the USA to Iran. No boots on the ground military action
in Syria is boots on the ground military action in Iran It is all smoke and
mirrors. It does not matter who the President is.
Who is paying for this?
@ riverofsun:It's almost humorous how you are using this
Obama-based effort to attack "big-business Republicans". You can't
have it both ways. Are you against Obama or are you against Republicans on this
one? You actually seem quite confused.
tatorsYour comments generally reflect your penchant to spin or have
it both ways...Share the road...LOL.
We need to know what the scriptures say about all this activity. Let me share
this with you, you Men of War...9 Proclaim ye this among the
Gentiles: Prepare war! Wake up the mighty men! Let all the men of war draw near;
let them come up.10 Beat your plowshares into swords, and your pruning
hooks into spears; let the weak say, I am strong.”11 Assemble
yourselves and come, all ye heathen, and gather yourselves together round about;
thither cause Thy mighty ones to come down, O Lord. We are
flying right into the face of Biblical prophecy which I know is honest and true,
coming from the Prophets. Zechariah 12:2-3 tell us to stay out of the middle
east or be cut in pieces. That is good enough for me. Hope Obama will see the
light, being a "Christian" and a world policeman. the Lord will
settle these dreadful matters in his own way, personally.