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  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 14, 2013 11:23 a.m.

    Kansas is lucky to have such a highly skilled player.

    Under average coaching Heaps would be a very good QB.

    Under great coaching he could be phenomenal.

    Jake knew that a 1-11 Kansas team would be a better place to pursue a BCS bowl and better coaching than his previous school.

    Good luck Jake, I'll be cheering for you as you fight in a prestigious power conference.

    Many former fans are jealous of your power conference membership.

    Sincerely,

    Fellow power conference University of Utah utes

    Go Heaps!

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 14, 2013 11:27 a.m.

    Jake must be thrilled to be surrounded by better athletes as teammates than he's had previously.

    Yes, a 1-11 Kansas team out recruited byu.

    Apparently when a recruit can choose

    1) 1-11 BCS team in a power conference with real athlete teammates

    or

    2) byu

    Athletes are choosing the 1-11 Kansas option.

    I can't imagine its a breath of fresh air being surrounded by other talent.

    Good luck Jake

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    Aug. 14, 2013 12:02 p.m.

    With BYU, a quarterback is always living with the ghosts of the fading Glory Years. With the Kansas Jayhawks you have nowhere to go but up. Best of luck to you Jake.

  • sid 6.7 Holladay, UT
    Aug. 14, 2013 12:03 p.m.

    I really liked Heaps.

    I will never understand how some one who did so well under center his Freshman year could be treated so poorly by the schools fans and the Coaching Staff in his Sophomore year. I know he played poorly in some games but he was the future. Could you imagine where he could have been in BYU's program this year had he been treated right and stayed? In my opinion a huge mistake by BYU was made when this kid got away.

    You can't cry over spilled milk I guess.

    Best of luck to you Mr. Heaps! I hope you enjoy all of the success you deserve at Kansas this year.

    Go Utes!

  • Christy B Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 14, 2013 12:09 p.m.

    My little sister is simply jealous that while even a power conference basketball school like Kansas is able to attract 5-star QBs like Heaps, our Utes are forced to make do with 2- and 3-star QBs.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    Aug. 14, 2013 12:10 p.m.

    "Under average coaching Heaps would be a very good QB."

    I believe Weis is a good coach, so time will tell.

    "Yes, a 1-11 Kansas team out recruited byu."

    According to what metric? BYU has out-recruited KU (Scouts and rivals team rankings) three of the last five years.

    I'm thrilled for Jake. I thought he was a great get for BYU back in 2010 and showed a lot of promise as a freshman. He undeniably took a step back as a sophomore, and I suspect part or the reason is he didn't have the full support of his teammates. It sounds like he has that at KU, plus another two years to develop--I think we can expect a great season from him.

  • STuFOO Korea, AE
    Aug. 14, 2013 12:13 p.m.

    Chrissy,

    "Fellow power conference University of Utah utes"

    u said it. Yep u are exactly right the 1-11 Kansas program is right in line with your team in a power conference. Every power conference has those one or two members that are "part of the team" be default.

    You're like the equipment manager who tells everyone he's on the team.

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 14, 2013 12:24 p.m.

    Re: BlueCoug

    "Breaking News: Dallin Leavitt suffered a hip flexor; maximum recovery time - 7 days

    Eric Thornton is moving from WR to field cornerback. Thornton was doing well as JD Falslev's backup.

    Robertson Daniel will move over to field corner. Mike Hague will continue to recover from injury to play boundary corner.

    While still challenging, Bronco is making adjustments and BYU's corner situation is not nearly as dire as some have characterized it."

    Thanks for the update.

    -----------

    Wishing Jake good luck at Kansas and hope he has great success this season. With a little more patience, he could have added his name to the long list of BYU greats.

  • STuFOO Korea, AE
    Aug. 14, 2013 12:25 p.m.

    To any one who thinks Jake was mistreated by BYU...
    or that Kansas out recruited BYU...
    or that Kansas coaches can do better...

    A neighbor of Jake's family told me that Jake pouted endlessly after being taken out of the USU game and that his dad started to look for another college the next morning. I also know he became toxic in the weight room and lost his team and support.

    I don't wish Jake any ill will. I hope he does well now that a little diversity has come his way. But, how do coaches deal with a player who felt entitled to the position, became a cancer on the team, and lost the respect of his team mates while his dad shopped around for colleges?

    I would have benched him too. Regardless of the stars or the "athlete status." Football is a team sport.

    For some, the prestige is more important than substance. It is like proclaiming you're in a power conference as some sort of achievement that justifies your accomplishments on the field throughout a season. Lame.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 14, 2013 12:28 p.m.

    @Wicougfan,

    "According to what metric"

    The latest recruiting results.

    Scout shows that for 2013 Kansas out recruited BYU.

    So these recruits saw a school that just went 1-11

    and they saw byu

    And better athletes picked a 1-11 BCS Kansas team over byu.

    Speaks volumes.

    And obviously Utah beat both those teams in recruiting.

    Those metrics.

  • STuFOO Korea, AE
    Aug. 14, 2013 12:35 p.m.

    Chrissy,

    Exactly which recruits "saw a school that just went 1-11, and they saw byu"

    Please provide us anyone recruited by both schools.

    Funny that now it is about recruiting and not about where you end up in the W/L column.

    See you on the 21st. Then I won't see you at all.

    And you can stew on that for two years.

  • Downtownchrisbrown ,
    Aug. 14, 2013 12:48 p.m.

    I'll believe the Jake Heaps' Kansas hype when his practice jersey comes off and he still has the confidence of his teammates

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 14, 2013 12:51 p.m.

    @StuFoo,

    Are you going to claim that Alabama didn't outrecruit byu because they didn't go head to head on any(perhaps 1-2) kids?

    LOL

    When a 1-11 team has a better recruiting class than a supposed football power(per byu fans only), it speaks volumes about how prestigious the respective football programs are.

    The best programs typically get the best athletes(go look at Alabama'a recruiting classes last several years).

    If byu really was half as prestigious of a football program as football fans believe, you'd have enough quality athletes signing to beat any 1-11 KANSAS football program.

    KANSAS. FOOTBALL.

    Not exactly known as a football power.

    And yet apparently they are more desirable football destination that Provo!

    LOL

  • Christine B. Hedgefog Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 14, 2013 1:11 p.m.

    "Fellow power conference University of Utah utes"

    My little sister forgot to type the entire sentence. What she meant to say was "Fellow cellar dweller in a power conference University of Utah utes"

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 14, 2013 1:25 p.m.

    Christine,

    How does it feel to continually LOSE to cellr dwellers in power conferences?

    Ute Seniors 4-0 SWEEP!

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Aug. 14, 2013 1:28 p.m.

    Chris B:
    You might want to check the rankings out for 2014 where your Utes are sitting pretty at #70 while BYU is above both U and Kanas (Kansas is rated above U also, "LOL").

    I guess athletes are starting to realize, now that conference realignment craziness is over, that going to a power conference cellar dweller is no better than playing for a WAC or MAC school. They'd much rather be playing on national TV all over the country. I can just hear the convo between a Ute recruit and his mother: Mom: "what channel will u be on again?" Ute: "the speed channel...er wait I think it's Fox Local Obscure Sports now". You said it Chris, "LOL"!

  • Oatmeal Woods Cross, UT
    Aug. 14, 2013 1:29 p.m.

    Lots of comments by Chris B. Must be a BYU football article. He is as true blue as they come.

  • 1978 Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 14, 2013 1:31 p.m.

    I find it interesting that Chris thinks it is more impressive to be a butler in a mansion in the city than own his own 4000 square foot beautiful home in the suburbs.

    HINT: He may need someone to help him understand the analogy.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    Aug. 14, 2013 1:52 p.m.

    RE: Chris B.

    "When a 1-11 team has a better recruiting class than a supposed football power (per byu fans only), it speaks volumes about how prestigious the respective football programs are."

    That's ridiculous. By that reasoning in 2013 Cincy #52, NC State #53, Indiana #49, Northwestern #47, Washington State #38 would all be superior to Utah #54, Stanford #56, Texas Tech #59, BYU #63, and Kansas St #68. Do you seriously believe that Washington State, Kansas, and Indiana are more prestigious than Stanford? Nice try but your spinning doesn't add up.

  • MacNasty Rexburg, ID
    Aug. 14, 2013 2:00 p.m.

    Chris B, What was the final rankings for BYU and Utah the last two year huuummmm?

    Give you a hint, your Utes finished behind USU and BYU last year. Teams play a whole season not just one game; get a clue

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 14, 2013 2:01 p.m.

    Cougsndawgs:

    FAIL.

    byu typically recruits much earlier than other schools, and the Scout recruiting info I'm looking at show byu with more recruits.

    You're comparing apples to oranges since Utah is still determining who is worthy of a scholarship.

    Want to compare apples to apples?

    Look at AVERAGE STARS OF RECRUITS in 2014.

    I'll help you out.

    Utah 2.78
    Kansas 2.57
    byu 2.54

    LOL

    Sorry that spin was easily debunked.

    And if you think stars don't matter, let me share this with you

    a 5 star has a greater chance at being drafted in NFL than a 4

    a 4 higher than a 3

    and a 3 higher than a 2

    Spin, spin, spin!

    Sorry that was too easy!

    LOL!

  • Christopher B Ogden, UT
    Aug. 14, 2013 2:10 p.m.

    @Wiscougarfan,

    My whole point is that Jake Heaps will now enjoy better athletes as teammates, even on a 1-11 Kansas team than he ever enjoyed at byu.

    And if you think stars aren't a good indicator of success, reality disagrees with you.

    5 stars have a greater likelihood of being drafted than 4 stars

    4 stars higher than 3 stars

    and 3 stars higher than 2 stars

    Another interesting thing about that second group you mention(Utah, Stanford, Texas Tech, byu, and Kansas State)

    They all had top 5 seasons in the last decade, EXCEPT one!

    Guess who?

    byU!

    lol

  • STuFOO Korea, AE
    Aug. 14, 2013 2:19 p.m.

    Chrissy,

    "Are you going to claim that Alabama didn't outrecruit byu because they didn't go head to head on any(perhaps 1-2) kids?"

    No I am asking you to show me any kid who was recruited by both schools so we can see it your other argument even holds water. Which it doesn't.

    Your problem is that you think that your membership in a power conference means something and that it is the only thing that these kids are thinking about.

    I can guarantee you there are several things above the conference that are more important. Just to name a few...

    1. Playing time.
    2. Position recruited.
    3. The coaching staff.
    4. Teammates.

    Your problem is your are blinded like a Justin Beiber fan into thinking that a conference is the all encompassing factor with importance that blinds all others. You are so giddy about being in the PAC 12 you fail to notice your utes are slipping into oblivion.

    Oh an by the way, you can say LOL all you want...

    but people aren't laughing with you, they are laugh at you.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Aug. 14, 2013 2:38 p.m.

    Robert Anae's return to BYU is proof that Heaps decline under Doman was BECAUSE of Doman. Heaps ended his freshman year soaring under Anae and then Doman took over and tried to change a drop back passer into an option QB. The Doman experiment soon soured and now Anae is back. I can 100% guarntee you that Anae would give anything to have his old QB back. Heaps IS a drop back passer and a good one. He will do well at Kansas. BYU used to be a drop back passing school and is trying to reclaim that once again under Anae. Mistakes mistakes...

  • Christopher B Ogden, UT
    Aug. 14, 2013 2:46 p.m.

    stufoo,

    Yes

    Playing time matters
    So does position
    And coaching
    And teammates

    And guess which school in Utah recruits have wanted every year the past 3 years on average?

    Utah
    Utah
    Utah

    Both head to head recruiting AND average stars, Utah has won the recruiting battle between byu, Utah, and usu.

    The Pac 12 Utes!

  • PAC 12 loves U Sandy, Utah
    Aug. 14, 2013 3:03 p.m.

    "Jake Heaps impressing his Kansas Jayhawks teammates"

    Time to get over it BYU media! Prima Donna quarterback Jake Hypes is long gone and will never come back to Provo.

  • kevo Saratoga Springs, UT
    Aug. 14, 2013 3:05 p.m.

    who cares? He made a horrible impression on his BYU teammates. Why do we care what he's doing??? Enough with these articles please.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Aug. 14, 2013 3:08 p.m.

    How on earth was he benched in favor of Logan's favorite son?

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    Aug. 14, 2013 4:05 p.m.

    RE: Chrisopher B.

    You continue to make my point for me. If the only indicator of whether or not an "athlete" is indeed an "athlete" is the number of stars they receive from the recruiting services than you have to concede that Washington State is better than Stanford, and that Utah is inferior to Indiana. After all, WSU had a higher average star ranking in 2013 than Staford...

    If you continue to insist that "Jake Heaps will now enjoy better athletes as teammates, even on a 1-11 Kansas team than he ever enjoyed at byu" then you should provide actual evidence that there are more "athletes" at KU. The teammates Heaps will "enjoy" at KU have a lower average star ranking over the last four years (he's not just playing with incoming freshman) than those who would have been his teammates at BYU. BYU out-recruited KU in 2010, 2012, 2014 and had an average team ranking of 55.5 over the last five years while KU averaged 59.7.

    So again you have failed to establish how KU has better athletes than BYU. Spin away...

  • bradleyc Layton, UT
    Aug. 14, 2013 4:19 p.m.

    Best of luck to Jake Heaps. I hope Kansas is fantastic this year.

    As for BYU... BYU gets the Athletes it really goes after. The problem has been that it passes up on some great athletes that would love to go to BYU but get offered money to go elsewhere.

  • STuFOO Korea, AE
    Aug. 14, 2013 4:36 p.m.

    Chrissy,

    "And guess which school in Utah recruits have wanted every year the past 3 years on average?"

    So by your argument, there are no recruits at BYU? There is no one playing football at BYU?

    Nor is there people who chose BYU over utah?

    By your same argument, utah can't hold a candle to top teams that ACTUALLY compete in "Power Conferences" for the same reasons you professed in your comments. Therefore, the u won't get any more recruits either.

    Funny that you want to argue recruiting classes that equal dominance. OK. the u has been dominated by opponents with weaker recruiting classes (see ASU, Boise State).

    Your comments want to argue only one point. That the u is better than BYU.

    Sorry buddy, you have one argument to make and that is that you won the last game.

    That changes the 21st, then you will decline just like your team into oblivion.

    LOL,

    yes, we are all laughing at you. Not because you have an opinion, but for your audience. What you thought you would come to the BYU comments and we would all go, "gosh, he has a point."

  • oldcougar Orem, UT
    Aug. 14, 2013 4:55 p.m.

    Seems like I've heard a lot of Jake Heaps pre-season hype before. If he actually succeeds at KU, I'll be happy for him...and surprised.

  • thebigsamoan Richmond, VA
    Aug. 14, 2013 5:53 p.m.

    I pray for Jake's sake that he'll do really well and be a great success in Kansas. Whether he was treated unfairly or not at BYU, the fact remains that he was noticeably unhappy when he was benched for Riley. And faced with a bruised ego and the humiliation of being demoted after being so highly touted, he simply couldn't accept being second banana to anyone. Remember he was heavily promoted as BYU's quarterback of the future. So when it appeared that reality was going up in smoke, his attitude totally changed and it severely affected his desire to be a team player. I believe that's what made him decide to transfer and I can understand that. Wished he stayed and try to get his job back but he let his pride got in the way and I can't say that I faulted him for wanting to leave.

    Honestly, I wish him much luck in his future! Perhaps he'll eventually prove that we made a serious mistake in not sticking with him. And if that happens, I'll be just as happy and proud of him!

  • let's roll LEHI, UT
    Aug. 14, 2013 6:01 p.m.

    Nothing more predictable than teammates talking up the QB in fall camp-- especially the receivers. They want the ball so the last thing they want to do is alienate the QB.

    That said, everyone can change and I wish the Jake the best of luck in trying to turn things around at Kansas, both for himself and for the team.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Aug. 14, 2013 7:48 p.m.

    Chrissy:
    "Look at AVERAGE STARS OF RECRUITS in 2014.

    I'll help you out.

    Utah 2.78
    Kansas 2.57
    byu 2.54

    LOL

    Sorry that spin was easily debunked."

    I've seen the list of players Utah is going after, and I hate to break it to U but Utah isn't getting many more than 1 or 2 4 star athletes from that list. In the end I'm willing to wager that BYU and Utah will be much closer in recruiting than U want to admit. BYU is having a great recruiting year and still very hot on other 3 and 4 star players (btw most experts are saying Warner should be 4 stars already, but he isn't moving much because he's already committed). And OH NO, stop the presses, Utah's avg star ranking is .24 higher than BYUs, "LOL". Like that's going to make any difference on the field. This star fixation that U and AZUTE have only makes you guys look foolish when u finish ranked behind BYU yr in and yr out, and Washington St finishes behind U yr in and yr out despite out recruiting U as Wiscoug pointed out and U haven't answered to.

  • SLCWatch Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 14, 2013 10:43 p.m.

    This is so easy it's embarrassing.
    Knowing what a school recruits for makes a difference.
    Read, "Running into the wind".
    BYU is not recruiting players that have a high star ranking.
    They do recruit people who have a high GPA
    They do recruit people who have high ACT
    They do recruit people who stand out on personal maturity.
    They do recruit people who want to live by the honor code.
    They do recruit people who prefer to be at BYU
    They do recruit people who have an eccliziastical endorsement.
    They do recruit Div I capable athletes.

    As anyone, including our most prolific poster can see that BYU does not care about your silly star rankings.

    How many people did KU recruit that preferred to by at BYU, live the honor code or have an eccliziastical endorsement?
    See KU did not out recruit BYU.

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 14, 2013 11:22 p.m.

    Henry Drummond suggests "With the Kansas Jayhawks you have nowhere to go but up."
    That should read "... nowhere to go but up, again."
    Kansas has been to a BCS bowl game, and won.

  • JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt Beverly Hills, CA
    Aug. 15, 2013 1:46 a.m.

    Jakes heaps and Riley Nelson will be FOREVER remembered for contributing to the 54-10 game. End of seasons ranking don't matter because BYU plays a weaker schedule. Utah beat BYU 54-10 and that is never coming down and I know it digs at the craw of every BYU fan on a daily basis.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    Aug. 15, 2013 9:08 a.m.

    RE: Chrisoper B.

    That's exactly why I used that example. Like Stanford/Washington State, BYU almost always out-recruits Kansas (your original point being KU is superior because they had one better recruiting class). Try to keep up.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    Aug. 15, 2013 9:32 a.m.

    Chris, I have a really really easy question for you (it only requires a yes or a no, though I know you'll try to spin).

    My second favorite team is consistently out-recruited by Pitt, North Carolina, Duke, Colorado, and Kentucky (as in those other teams have higher star rankings almost every year). Does that mean that those teams are better than my team?

  • Christopher B Ogden, UT
    Aug. 15, 2013 10:01 a.m.

    Wiscougar,

    You seem to be spinning your self around.

    Let's see if I can help.

    Your post at 9:08 this morning says that byu typically outrecruits Kansas as evidence that heaps doesn't have better athletes at Kansas is that right?

    So in this post you're agreeing stars matter in terms of quality of players?

    And then minutes later at 9:32 you suggest some teams outrecruit your second favorite team, seeming to suggest those teams(pitt, NC, duke, Kentucky) aren't better in reality than your second favorite team.

    Is that the point you're making?

    So which is it?

    9:08 stars matter
    9:32 they don't

    Try to keep up, with yourself.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    Aug. 15, 2013 10:19 a.m.

    Crisper,
    I agree with you that stars do matter. My posts are only contradictory if you take them out of context (something you are quite good at, so kudos for that). I have simply debunked your assertion that Kansas has better athletes than BYU based on one years recruiting class (or that North Carolina is better than Wisconsin based on consistent recruiting superiority).

    Of course there is a correlation between high stars (talented athletes) and on-the-field results, very few Cougarfans would disagree with that. However, it isn't the only thing, which is why your reasoning behind Utah being better than BYU based largely on their recruiting supremacy doesn't hold much water.

    What happens on-the-field is what matters most... so I'd stick with the head-to-head argument. Utah has a legitimate claim to recent head-to-head superiority over BYU based on the scoreboard (of course that will change in a few weeks). However, BYU is consistently a top 25 team, something Utah (and Kansas) are not.

  • majCoug Cairo, AE
    Aug. 15, 2013 1:01 p.m.

    Stating one team is better than another because of the ranking of the recruits they attract is suspect on many levels. It is eqivalent in some aspects to saying a NFL team is better due to the quality of free agents they attract. It all comes down to opportunity.

    Prep stars choose colleges they commit to or transfer to based on multiple factors, including ability to play, position depth, campus/school/study perks, facilities, personal ties, connection with current players or coaches, national exposure, types of offense, defense to name a few. In short they chose out of perceieved opportunity, not necessarily superiority.

  • majCoug Cairo, AE
    Aug. 15, 2013 1:01 p.m.

    The final judgement of any team sport is wins, losses. Utes have BYU in head to head match up over the last few years. BYU has a greater number of wins overall. Arguments can be made for both. Ute fans scream, "but we have a tougher schedule".

    PAC 10 conference is finally regaining respect and so that may be valid to some degree. The question I raise is, "does Utah add to that level of respect in any fashion". At this point I would have to say no. They are more like what Vanderbilt is to the SEC. And even with that, PAC 10 doesn't come close to the SEC.

  • BigCougar Bountiful, UT
    Aug. 15, 2013 1:46 p.m.

    Best of luck to you Jake! I'll be watching closely and pulling for you to have a big season!!!

  • jtopherj Rexburg, ID
    Aug. 15, 2013 3:30 p.m.

    There's been a lot of talk about star ranking this, and star ranking that, but what everybody has failed to point out is that there are only three things that matter to BYU recruiters: spirit, tradition and honor.

    Thanks for clarifying Bronco.

    *Boise State convert

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    Aug. 15, 2013 4:50 p.m.

    Heaps' victories at byu--

    Washington while sharing QB-duties [Fresh off of winning 5 total games the previous 2 seasons]
    SDSU by 3 at home, mired in controversy
    Wyoming by 5 at home
    UNLV
    Colorado State
    New Mexico
    UTEP

    'Ole Miss which finished the season w/2 wins
    Central Florida at home

    Yes, Heaps knows all about winning, doesn't he? NCs and all, to boot!

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    Aug. 15, 2013 5:01 p.m.

    majCoug--

    "The final judgement of any team sport is wins, losses. Utes have BYU in head to head match up over the last few years. BYU has a greater number of wins overall. Arguments can be made for both. Ute fans scream, 'but we have a tougher schedule'.

    SOS is brought-up a lot, due to byu fans pointing to more wins, yet failing to acknowledge playing against a significantly easier schedule.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    Aug. 15, 2013 5:10 p.m.

    majCoug--

    "PAC 10 conference is finally regaining respect and so that may be valid to some degree."

    "PAC 10" hasn't existed since 2010.

    "The question I raise is, 'does Utah add to that level of respect in any fashion'. At this point I would have to say no. They are more like what Vanderbilt is to the SEC. And even with that, PAC 10 doesn't come close to the SEC."

    Is this like the "respect" byu has brought to Independence, w/their sole "good" win by virtue of luck at home by 3-points against USU? We expected a period-of-transition to occur and even w/the issues we've had at QB, we've done better than both ua/CAL over 2 years and aren't far behind UCLA/ASU/OSU in our conference record.

    Regarding your team, we're 2-0 against byu, to the tune of 78-31. byu is 2-3 against PAC-12 teams, playing them at random, not back-to-back, yet can only beat 2 bottom-feeders and getting utterly annihilated at home by the only 2 w/winning-records, to the tune of 96-34.

    Finally, are you talking about 9-4 Vanderbilt?

  • cptcam Provo, UT
    Aug. 27, 2013 2:50 p.m.

    So much irrelevant, meaningless discussion. BYU will never be able to recruit the same as any other school. Nor do they want to. We're all encouraging each other to be in the box. Take of the tinted glasses, one and all.

  • Wayne Rout El Paso, TX
    Aug. 28, 2013 7:42 p.m.

    I don't think coach Weiss cares about quarterbacks fielding punts or having a big mouth. I recently watched Jake's game in the New Mexico Bowl. I don't understand how BYU could allow anyone, especially someone who could not throw, replace Jake. We hired a bunch of assistants who were nice guys but were not experienced coaches. I wanted it to work, but after a few games it was clear that changes had to be made. Too bad that Bronco waited too long. Bronco was a great assistant. It is yet to be determined if he can ever be a head coach. He certainly made a blunder when he put Jake on the bench.

  • CBAX Provo, UT
    Sept. 4, 2013 10:06 p.m.

    Even as a byu fan, Chris B is my hero. He should probably have his own blog or column. I would subscribe.

    I wish that I could meet chris b, he sounds like an awesome person to head to an afternoon of football with!