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Attorney General Eric Holder calls Trayvon Martin's death an 'unnecessary shooting'

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  • JSB Sugar City, ID
    July 15, 2013 12:59 p.m.

    The nature of the protesters' reaction makes me less sympathetic with their cause. Did they, including Eric Holder, witness the shooting? Were they in the courtroom listening to the evidence? Were they in the jury room as the jurists carefully discussed the evidence and motives? The fact that the decision was unanimous--not a hung jury gives some weight to Zimmerman's case. If someone, whatever his race, is pounding your head onto the ground and you feel genuinely threatened, should you be expected to ponder and contemplate what Eric Holder's reaction will be before you try to defend yourself?

  • Hey Baby Franklin, IN
    July 15, 2013 1:13 p.m.

    Not sure what is worse...

    An AG who is an idiot? Or an AG who does an idiots bidding?

    Thoughts??

  • LoveLife Riverton, UT
    July 15, 2013 1:20 p.m.

    Wasn't this done last year?

    "FBI records: agents found no evidence that Zimmerman was racist"--McClatchy, July 12, 2012.

    Holder did enough damage by sending (with tax-payer money) the Community Relation Service of the DOJ department to organize and manage protests and rallies against GZ.

    Anything that happens now is purely political.

  • esodije ALBUQUERQUE, NM
    July 15, 2013 1:22 p.m.

    A federal civil-rights violation charge in this case, although pointless from a purely legal standpoint, at least would highlight what I've always said--that no matter how you try to dress a civil-rights charge up in terms of "differing jurisdictions" and "distinct legal theories," it's double jeopardy under any reasonable understanding of that term.

  • Cedarcreek320 Star Valley Ranch, WY
    July 15, 2013 1:23 p.m.

    To JSB:
    The fact is, if Zimmerman had stayed in his vehicle, as instructed by the 911 operator, nothing would have happened. Martin would have gone home and Zimmerman could have continued to drive around the neighborhood, looking for "punks.

  • ExecutorIoh West Jordan, UT
    July 15, 2013 1:24 p.m.

    This saga has been one political nightmare. The liberal media and minority groups called for Zimmerman to be arrested after police failed to see fault, he got arrested, they called for him to be charged, he was charged, they called for a fair trial, and they got one. Zimmerman was acquitted and they still cry for justice.

    Too many people don't understand justice, and the President and US-AG should have stayed out of this rather than embarrass themselves by looking like idiots by talking against the rule of law.

  • SoCalTrueBlue2 San Diego, CA
    July 15, 2013 1:25 p.m.

    When the nation's highest prosecutor panders to public opinion, it is scary. When he panders to a small, vocal portion of public opinion that represents only a minority view that happens to be consistent with his own personal makeup, it is very, very scary.

  • USAlover Salt Lake City, UT
    July 15, 2013 1:27 p.m.

    Question: If Trayvon Martin had been white, would we have heard about it?

    The only person who issued out racial remarks was Martin, who called Zimmerman a "cracker".

    End of story. Sad really that race still taints what is relevant or not.

  • GAS WOODS CROSS, UT
    July 15, 2013 1:29 p.m.

    I would agree with Holder’s statement that the shooting was unnecessary. According to what came out of trial, if Martin had not attacked Zimmerman he would not have been shot. Martin chose his action; he could not choose the consequence. The consequence for his attack was to have been killed by the man he attacked. If Martin has simply walked away he would have survived the encounter.

    Holder’s DoJ has helped make this a racial case and has interfered with the judicial process. Has Holder shown the same sympathy for the family of Brian Terry, the U.S. Border Patrol Agent killed due to the Administration’s Operation Fast and Furious? Holder and Obama has refused to give provide anyone with enough details to place the blame for this debacle.

    Racism is alive and well in this country thanks to the race industry, liberals and the current administration.

  • Ticus Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 15, 2013 1:31 p.m.

    It's time this case is laid to rest. All parties involved have been given due process of law. A judge and jury have spoken. Regardless of what wrong did or may have (or may not have) occurred, it is time to move on. Attorney General Eric Holder is out of place to perpetuate this case longer.

  • Aggielove Cache county, USA
    July 15, 2013 1:38 p.m.

    Then what would holders take be on fast and furious?

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    July 15, 2013 1:39 p.m.

    Let's get real here people... Treyvon was black and Holder is black. Zimmerman looked white. That's about it people. This is ... let's put the white guy in prison regardless of evidence or the lack thereof and we will continue to gin up whatever is needed to get the job done. This country is burning to the ground and the corruption at the Atourney General's office is so obvious and ugly you can smell it. Barack Obama said he was going to be the great 'healer' but instead he has been ...and continues to be the biggest divider this nation has ever known. I suspect this race hate as fueled by Obama, Holder and their nasty little helpers (Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, etc..) is going to only get worse until Barack and his band of radicals are gone.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    July 15, 2013 1:40 p.m.

    Of course it was.

    If Treyvon hadn't attacked Zimmerman he wouldn't have had to shoot him.

  • play by the rules SOUTH JORDAN, UT
    July 15, 2013 1:43 p.m.

    What about GZ's civil rights. He was tried and convicted by the media and the facts proved otherwise. This man was destroyed. I think he should own a good portion of NBC and I would love to be on the jury that makes that decision.

  • Question Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 15, 2013 1:46 p.m.

    I wonder if the shootings in the "Fast and Furious" case were "Necessary"?

  • BigDog32 Tooele, UT
    July 15, 2013 1:48 p.m.

    Never before has this country been more racially divided that it is right now. Those who are screaming do not want justice, they want revenge. They do not care is Zimmerman is guilty or not, they want revenge.

    This is a tragic story that could have ended differently. Martin should have just continued with his business instead of seeking Zimmerman out. Zimmerman should have backed off and maintained distance.

    There is only one person on this earth who knows the truth of this situation and that is George Zimmerman. You can make up all the theory's and explanations but it comes down to one fact, and that fact is, you don't know the story because you was not there.

    Justice has been served as per the law. Stop seeking revenge!

  • ohIknow Alpine, Utah
    July 15, 2013 2:05 p.m.

    I wonder if Holder would have a different stance had it been his head Martin was bashing into the sidewalk?

    Race plays no part in this case.

    No matter the race of Martin, had he been bashing Zimmermans' head into the ground, he would have gotten the same result.

    Everyone is making such case about Zimmerman following Martin, against what the police said. The police said that as advice to Zimmerman in regards to his safety, so they would not be liable. Because Zimmerman chose to follow, he did NOTHING to break the law.

    Zimmerman may have been a complete jerk to Martin, but nothing he did required Martin to escalate it to a physical confrontation.

  • BYUalum South Jordan, UT
    July 15, 2013 2:12 p.m.

    Activists will keep the pot boiling. I'm more concerned now about the safety of George Zimmerman. The prosecutors had their day in court and lost. GZ's life is at risk wherever he goes as a free man while a few people and government fan the flames of division and fear. Will GZ be given protection?

    What about the mass murders in Chicago over the July 4th weekend by blacks? Where is the outcry about these and other horrible crimes? This one case got a verdict of not guilty. The others got away with murder, and unchecked violence. Where is the real justice?

  • azgal Buckeye, AZ
    July 15, 2013 2:15 p.m.

    Trial by media. Why are we surprised at the outrage when the trial by jury in a courtroom gave a different outcome than expected when this was clearly a trial by media?

  • 4601 Salt Lake City, UT
    July 15, 2013 2:24 p.m.

    Yes it was, much as the trial was unnecessary.

  • LoveLife Riverton, UT
    July 15, 2013 2:40 p.m.

    @Cedarcreek320

    You are speculating about what might have happened. The 911 operator did not instruct GZ to stay in his truck. She didn't instruct him to do anything. She just said "Ok, we don't need you to do that."

    Former Sanford police chief Bill Lee said Zimmerman told officials, that between 7:13-7:17 pm, "he had lost sight of Trayvon and was returning to his truck to meet the police officer when he says he was attacked by Trayvon."

    I'm not saying one story is true or false-we just don't know.

    What is for certain is that TM was on top of GZ and beating his head into the cement. TM had no other injuries except the gunshot wound, indicating GZ did not attack him first. That is probably why the jury agreed that he acted in self-defense, and why the local authorities didn't want to press charges in the first place.

    Terrible tragedy for all involved.

  • Kathy. Iowa, Iowa
    July 15, 2013 2:51 p.m.

    If TM had not jumpted out of the bushes and slugged GZ in the face and then smashed his head on the cement several times it also would not have happened. To blame GZ for the events is just too funnny.

  • Neanderthal Pheonix, AZ
    July 15, 2013 2:56 p.m.

    @Cedarcreek320:
    "The fact is, if Zimmerman had stayed in his vehicle, as instructed by the 911 operator, nothing would have happened."

    Oh yeah... If Zimmerman would have stayed in his vehicle there would have been another robbery in his neighborhood that night. He got out of his vehicle so he could identify to the police when they arrived, just where a 'punk' was.

    "Martin would have gone home and Zimmerman could have continued to drive around the neighborhood, looking for 'punks.'"

    I think Zimmernman found a 'punk' and got his nose bashed in for his effort.

    @patriot:
    "Treyvon was black and Holder is black. Zimmerman looked white. That's about it people."

    Not quite... Holder's boss is also black.

    "I suspect this race hate as fueled by Obama, Holder and their nasty little helpers (Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, etc..) is going to only get worse until Barack and his band of radicals are gone."

    Civil War revisited.

  • Jazz Source Alpine, UT
    July 15, 2013 2:56 p.m.

    And since we know this AG won't enforce existing immigration laws already on the books we know that he and obama are the go-to people when it comes trusting what they have to say.

    This guy has an agenda that supersedes law and order on a daily basis.

    Evidently our jury/court system is only valid when it produces results that coincide with a certain political agenda.

  • OlderGreg USA, CA
    July 15, 2013 3:21 p.m.

    Holder's comments sound like he has already prepared the "after investigation" report. Disgusting.

  • GiuseppeG Murray, Utah
    July 15, 2013 4:01 p.m.

    re: USAlover
    "Question: If Trayvon Martin had been white, would we have heard about it?"

    I dunno...ever heard of Adeirean Carey (a black man) and Marcos Santiago (an unarmed hispanic teen)? Adeirean Carey shot and killed Marcos Santiago back in 2010 in Florida and claimed self-defense under the Florida Stand Your Ground law. After a year, the man-slaughter charges were dropped and it never came to trial.

  • A Guy With A Brain Enid, OK
    July 15, 2013 4:32 p.m.

    So the liberal, common sense-hating Attorney General Eric Holder said he thought that Trayvon Martin's death was "unnecessary", or in other words, he believes that Zimmerman murdered Martin.

    Is anyone with a brain surprised by this?

    How long, Lord, how long?....

    (BTW, Mr, Holder, I'm still waiting for the DoJ to apologize for the murder (yes, murder) of the U.S. border patrool agent in the Fast & Furious debacle. I'm also still waiting for the prosecution of the billy-club toting/swinging Black Panther thugs who were outside the voting polls back in 2008. I assure you, Mr. Holder, justice IS coming....)

  • fed up Provo, UT
    July 15, 2013 5:19 p.m.

    There is a real outrage building up over this among those of us who are fed up with protests simply because someone is black. I have family members who are black, Hispanic, Phillipino who all love each other. When a youth who is suspended from school is munching on his snacks, hiding in his hoodie, while casing out a housing area is looked at suspiciously, why should anyone be surprised???? Of course this is an innocent youth who possessed burglar tools in his locker, was arrested for marijuana, had a self proclaimed reputation of beating up people and a picture on his cell phone with him holding a gun. The poor victim was shot just because he attacked someone, knocked him to the ground and continued with a vicious beating.

  • procuradorfiscal Tooele, UT
    July 15, 2013 5:38 p.m.

    Re: "Unnecessary shooting"

    Of course it was unnecessary.

    If Trayvon had not gotten so incensed at having Mr. Zimmerman discover his casing of houses to burglarize, or if he had not perpetrated a violent, unprovoked attack on a "cracker" who was doing nothing illegal, or if he had not been so deadly violent in that attack, or if he had even broken off his unprovoked attack just one second sooner -- the cynical, race-baiting, victimization industry would've had to go elsewhere to find a pseudo-victim to cynically lionize.

    But, once Trayvon made his bad choices, he left George Zimmerman with no choice at all. There's not the slightest doubt that, had Mr. Zimmerman been unarmed, he, not Trayvon, would be dead today.

    This whole incident, including the unjust persecution [a career prosecutor can't honestly call it a prosecution] is, a horrid, unmitigated tragedy. But blame for the tragedy belongs with Trayvon and the cynical, race baiting victimization industry -- including the media.

    Not with George Zimmerman.

  • Rod Provo, UT
    July 15, 2013 5:38 p.m.

    I hear so many comments that say if Zimmerman had stayed in his vehicle as he was instructed to do this never would have happened. Zimmerman was NEVER instructed to stay in his vehicle. This shows that many many people will comment on rumor and speculation instead of on the facts.

    Martin had run home that night after seeing Zimmerman, if he (Martin) had stayed there then this never would have happened either.

  • DonO Draper, UT
    July 15, 2013 5:42 p.m.

    Attorney General Eric Holder calls Trayvon Martin's death an 'unnecessary shooting'’

    How in the world does he know? He wasn't there and, as far as anyone knows, he has not looked at all the evidence the jury considered. Trying to politicize this tragedy, as Holder appears to be doing, is not going to do anyone any good.

  • hermounts Pleasanton, CA
    July 15, 2013 7:22 p.m.

    The federal law that allows federal prosecution s for "civil rights violation" of someone found not guilty in state court, is a law whose time has come and gone. It is contrary to the principle of "no double jeopardy," and if there ever was justification for making an exception to that legal principle, there isn't any more.

  • MrTuscadero Houston, TX
    July 15, 2013 7:33 p.m.

    Are all those black on black shootings in Chicago "necessary"? If the Attorney General is going to hold forth on one killing, he needs to hold forth on them all, from coast to coast.

  • JRJ Pocatello, ID
    July 15, 2013 11:22 p.m.

    Is Eric Holder going to have time to get involved in every single similar case? How nice of him to take such an interest in something he should have left to the local police.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    July 16, 2013 7:25 a.m.

    Eric,
    So were all the deaths from the guns you sold to the Mexican drug lords, including the death of the US border patrol agent.

    So are the hundreds of young urban minorities killed by other young urban minorities; you say NOTHING about them, because you cannot make political hay from them. Never let a good crisis go to waste!

  • m.g. scott clearfield, UT
    July 16, 2013 9:30 a.m.

    Since the FBI already investigated this case and found no evidence, it would be an absolute travesty of justice (department) to pursue further charges. However, I'm sure that Obama and Holder are feeling lots of pressure not to Uncle Tom on this one.

    I hope Mr. Zimmerman can get a ruthless law firm to go after NBC News for defamation with that doctored 911 tape that made it sound like Zimmerman was profiling because of race. I'd like to finally see a major news outlet, especially NBC, who have done this kind of stuff before, get what they deserve, namely, a big financial judgement against them for doctoring the news to meet a political agenda.

  • katy salt lake city, ut
    July 16, 2013 10:38 a.m.

    Police face life and death situations every day. I would like to know some background history of Martin. Attacking policemen is happening much too often. They have to make critical decisions all the time.

  • ute alumni paradise, UT
    July 16, 2013 1:33 p.m.

    open up an investigation on OJ

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    July 16, 2013 2:29 p.m.

    Holder following the law. What an Oxymoron. I'm pretty sure that if it was Holder on the ground getting his head bashed into the concrete by a teenager he'd sing a different tune.

  • Igualmente Mesa, AZ
    July 16, 2013 2:41 p.m.

    The racial retribution sought following this trial seems fairly similar to the Paula Deen N-word usage.

    If anyone other than black uses the N-word, they must be destroyed.

    If anyone other than black shoots a black person, they must be destroyed.

  • george of the jungle goshen, UT
    July 16, 2013 3:53 p.m.

    I stale don't see why it was in the news.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    July 17, 2013 1:53 p.m.

    Guns to Mexican cartels have caused unnecessary shootings.

    F-16 fighter jets, and tanks to Egypt will cause unnecessary shootings.

    Can Holder make up his mind about this?

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    July 17, 2013 7:26 p.m.

    Since the Trayvon killing, more then 11,000 blacks have been killed by other blacks.-USA Today Newspaper.

    We all know, if Zimmerman had been black, it wouldn't be this big of a news event.

    The real racism come from the media, and some political leaders.

    It's time, we the people of America, stop being manipulated by the press.

  • cjb Bountiful, UT
    July 27, 2013 11:44 p.m.

    The shooting was very necessary. That people say it wasn't reminds me of the emperors new clothes. He had to shoot or he would be a vegetable or dead. He was being hit in the face with a broken nose, he
    Is head was being slammed into a sidewalk.

    The power of group think is extraordinary.