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  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 14, 2013 9:42 p.m.

    This story details multiple examples that prove racism is alive and seething in this country.

    And, it is not racism of whites hating blacks. It is a racism against anyone who demands equal treatment, respect for the law, and that all people be responsible for their actions.

    George Zimmerman is not a racist. Those who are now threatening Zimmerman, either with physical violence or legal actions (essentially forcing him into bankruptcy from ruinous legal bills from frivolous charges or suits).

    Dr. Martin Luther King would be appalled at how "racism" has been distorted and exploited.

    Good luck to Mr. Zimmerman. He should never be criticized, or prosecuted, for exercising his inherent right to self defense, as further codified by Florida laws.

  • lib1 Provo, UT
    July 14, 2013 10:45 p.m.

    As Mark Steyn pointed out, how did a Hispanic man that voted for a Black president somehow become the poster boy of white racism?

    Based on the evidence (or lack of evidence) that the prosecution presented, this was the right verdict. But I imagine Mr. Zimmerman will spend the next few years being hounded by leftist bureaucrats anxious to "make him pay" one way or another. I bet Louis Lerner and her IRS will pull out all of his tax filings from the last ten years and go through them with a microscope. I wish him luck--he will need it.

  • ThornBirds St.George, Utah
    July 14, 2013 11:08 p.m.

    DN Subscriber:
    Zimmerman will need lots of luck, among other things.
    Seems you think the man deserves sainthood?
    There are no words that can express how strange that last paragraph of your's sounds.

  • Uncle Rico Sandy, UT
    July 14, 2013 11:55 p.m.

    Thornbirds, DNsubscribers last paragraph makes perfect sense to me.

    Let me help you... Zimmerman was found innocent and was within the legal definition of self defense (Stand Your Ground) allowed by Florida law.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    July 15, 2013 12:08 a.m.

    @DN Subscriber
    "He should never be criticized"

    Even innocent doesn't mean he can't be criticized for racially profiling Treyvon Martin and disobeying dispatchers requests to not get involved.

  • Furry1993 Ogden, UT
    July 15, 2013 4:06 a.m.

    @Uncle Rico 11:55 p.m. July 14, 2013

    Zimmerman was not found "innocent". He was merely found "not guilty" -- the same way OJ Simpson, and others who were most likely factually guilty, were not convicted as charged.

  • Pete1215 Lafayette, IN
    July 15, 2013 5:34 a.m.

    I wonder how often the Justice Department looks into civil rights violations when a black person attacks a (as others say) white-hispanic?

  • mohokat Ogden, UT
    July 15, 2013 6:46 a.m.

    makes perfect sense to me also. But what is paramount is that a protected segment of the population should remain protected.

  • Aggielove Cache county, USA
    July 15, 2013 6:56 a.m.

    The President should of acted presidential, and not ever commented on this whole story.

  • TMR Los Angeles, CA
    July 15, 2013 7:25 a.m.

    DN Subscriber and Uncle Rico: In order to be consistent, I assume that you also defend OJ Simpson from "criticism" and civil prosecution. After all, Mr. Simpson was also found innocent by a jury who received instruction of State law. If so, I depart company from your way of thinking. Concerning Mr. Zimmerman, there is still a dead boy and the fact that Mr. Zimmerman make some reckless decisions that led to this tragedy. Accountability does not end with the absurd stand-your-ground Florida law.

    DN: It is interesting that the drama projected for Mr. Zimmerman is the same predicament that Mr. Simpson found himself in and yet it is highly unlikely that the DN would have published such an article then.

  • Y Ask Y Provo, UT
    July 15, 2013 7:39 a.m.

    Given the outrage over this verdict, I think Goerge Zimmerman ought to ask for asylum in Russia, or some latin American country - he could be bunk mates with Snowden!

  • Guam_Bomb BARRIGADA, GU
    July 15, 2013 7:58 a.m.

    TMR, thank you for stating it so eloquently. Trayvon Martin is dead because Zimmerman decided to take matters in his own hands.

  • EdGrady Idaho Falls, ID
    July 15, 2013 8:20 a.m.

    Zimmerman was NOT found innocent - he was found "Not Guilty" just like O.J. Simpson was found "Not Guilty." I know this - I know I will lay awake at worrying about the fate of this Barney Fife wanna-be.

  • Janet Ontario, OR
    July 15, 2013 8:31 a.m.

    I tend to be more liberal than most Utahns, but this is an outrage! We should let the White House and Congress know that we will not tolerate this kind of blow to the American judicial system! This isn't about Obama or even George Zimmerman. It's about overriding the process of American jurisprudence.

  • LetsDebate PLEASANT GROVE, UT
    July 15, 2013 8:33 a.m.

    All these comparisons to O.J. Simpson only exposes the inability of some to make apples-to-apples comparisons. Simpson was found not guilty of murdering his ex-wife because the jury found reasonable doubt as to whether he actually did kill her. Did that jury find that it was legally permissible for Simpson to kill his wife? No.

    There is no question from either side that Zimmerman did in fact kill Trayvon, and the jury found that when a person is being beaten, he has a legal right to self defense. That's the same as Simpson in what way?

    Guam Bomb - Trayvon Martin is dead because Trayvon Martin decided to take matters into his own hands instead of confronting with words only as he should have done. I think he felt legitimately afraid in the situation, but when he escalated it to brutal violence, he lost control of the outcome, and that's tragic. You and others can believe Zimmerman would just chase him down and shoot him without provocation, but that's a delusion that's contrary to all evidence, and a ridiculously unbelievable contradiction to everything about Zimmerman's life to that point.

  • cjb Bountiful, UT
    July 15, 2013 8:33 a.m.

    America has made great strides in civil rights and admittedly still has a ways to go. Using the George Zimmerman trial to help further this cause is the wrong tactical decision. This is not Rodney King all over. Trying to use this trial as a vehicle for positive change is a lot like crying wolf.

    All the arguments being made are just wrong. People think and that a person being beat up has a right to defend themself. It came out in the trial due to his lack of fitness and fighting skill that this was George Zimmerman's only option.

    The arguments currently being made will not further the cause of civil rights because those arguments are seen as illogical by too many. The fight is worthy and necessary but this is the wrong vehicle.

  • Manny Saint George, UT
    July 15, 2013 8:49 a.m.

    This has got to be one of the most bizarre court cases in recent history. There are just too many points to list here but I'll name a few. Why are sports figures making comments about this? Why are Hollywood types and other socialites chiming in with tweets? Obama helped start this thing nowhe has kind of told folks to back off a little. Now Harry Reid is fired up and wants a full investigation by the DOJ. What's is really going on here? There are young blacks kids being murdered every day in places like Chicago and there is no press coverage whatsoever. Is prolonging this case just a diversionary tactic by politicians, Al Sharpton, and others to keep the focus away from other government scandals? What bizarre times we are in right now. I'm not sure if I recognize this country anymore. Has Obama finally "Fundamentally Transformed America" like he promised years ago? I think he has succeeded.

  • toshi1066 OGDEN, UT
    July 15, 2013 9:22 a.m.

    And yet at the end of the day, a teen aged boy is still dead because one man thought he had the right to play God and end his life. Pathetic.

  • Badgerbadger Murray, UT
    July 15, 2013 9:29 a.m.

    A few points.

    #1 'stand your ground' was not invoked. The defense was plain old self defense, the kind permitted in every state.

    #2 The only OJ case is completely different in every way except being a cross race incident and acquittal. The differences are so vast that there really is no valid comparison. (didn't do it vs self defense, physical evidence indicates guilt versus innocence, no rich and famous person involved, etc, etc, etc.)

    #3 Any attempt to compare the 2 cases is based purely on racism, which we have been trying to end for 50 years.

    I guess some are still just as racist as in 1995.

  • Moabmom Moab, UT
    July 15, 2013 9:41 a.m.

    It is amazing to me that those who tried and continue to try to make the Zimmerman trial about race are still refusing to look at the facts of the case. They still ignore, regardless of what lead up to it, that Martin was slamming Zimmerman's head into the concrete. What is the magic number of times that Zimmerman should have let that happen before fighting back..one? five? ten?. At that point it didn't/doesn't matter what color either one of them were. It is encouraging to know that the justice system still works despite the efforts of so called "civil rights" activists, this administration, and the main stream media to influence the process and turn the case into a political circus.

  • agpond Saint George, UT
    July 15, 2013 10:11 a.m.

    Please don't forget, Presumed innocent unless proved guilty. Then, unanimous by ALL jurors. Which part of this needs change?

  • MapleDon Springville, UT
    July 15, 2013 10:13 a.m.

    So if our judicial system doesn't work the way these people want, what's the resolution? That's right...anarchy. The arrogance of the "hate America" crowd, the inciting by the leftist media, and the idleness by the rest of us is astounding...and not good.

  • Ragnar Danneskjold Bountiful, UT
    July 15, 2013 10:26 a.m.

    Re:Manny
    You said this is the "most bizarre court cases in recent history". Not a single thing you listed has anything to do with the actual case. I doubt you followed much of the actual case, and probably base a large portion of your opinion solely on your distrust of the media and your perception of the people prosecuting Zimmerman.

    Re:Moabmom
    Make no mistake, race was an integral part of what happened that night. You are discussing what happened during the confrontation, but seem to willfully ignore the events leading up to it, or even what could have started it. You give all of the benefit of the doubt to Zimmerman, and none to Martin.
    Zimmerman was found not guilty, but he was the author of a young man's death. So I can't blame anyone who is upset about it (even ignoring all of the other issues that could make someone angry about this case).

  • Grundle West Jordan, UT
    July 15, 2013 11:01 a.m.

    The claim that racism was an integral part and "giving all of the benefit of the doubt to Zimmerman" is happening.

    Bottom line is that there are no heroes here. There is no one in this case who acted in the highest manner possible. Both made stupid decisions. There was a tragic outcome and so many believe that because the outcome was worse for one that the other should be punished. In my opinion, this should be a no-fault situation. Both acted stupidly. One is dead. The outcome doesn't change anything. Actions are the same. IF the police had arrived and Martin was not shot and the police had to pry Martin off from Zimmerman, it is likely that Martin would have been charged with assault and Zimmerman would have been the victim.

    So many want to see racism in everything. They have their racism goggles on. These people are the hammer that sees everything as a nail. They want to see Zimmerman as white not Hispanic. Why not just see people and judge them based on their actions. If we would do that, we would see two stupid people with a tragic outcome.

  • There You Go Again Saint George, UT
    July 15, 2013 11:48 a.m.

    Uncertain?

    We live in an increasingly litigious/vengeful society.

    It seems to be fairly certain that George could possibly be very busy in the future.

  • procuradorfiscal Tooele, UT
    July 15, 2013 12:11 p.m.

    Re: "The Department of Justice has announced it will look into the case, which could lead to criminal civil rights charges . . . ."

    Let's see. Wouldn't this be the same "Justice" Department that refused to prosecute the New Black Panthers that were menacing voters at a polling place? Or that declined to do its duty to defend DOMA? Or that has yet to interview a single discriminated-against conservative organization in its "investigation" of the IRS?

    Seems like there ain't much justice available from Obama's captive, politicized "Justice" Department. Unless, of course, you know someone, or you're a member of some favored organization, or you can be used as a symbol by a cynical "Great Divider."

    Equal justice under the law?

    Not.

  • Meckofahess Salt Lake City, UT
    July 15, 2013 12:20 p.m.

    The court has spoken. Mr. Zimmerman had a fair trial and was acquitted. It's time to move on.

  • Meckofahess Salt Lake City, UT
    July 15, 2013 12:21 p.m.

    Moabmom - WELL SAID!!!!

  • tenx Santa Clara, UT
    July 15, 2013 2:04 p.m.

    BO - guilty, Eric - guilty, MSNBC - guilty, CNN - guilty, Fox - not guilty, Jury - not guilty. Facts of the case - not guilty. Why don't we just go by the facts of this case and quit playing politics all the time?

  • Hemlock Salt Lake City, UT
    July 15, 2013 2:23 p.m.

    TMR
    It was a court of law that rendered a verdict, not the DN. Your analogy with OJ Simpson is weak. The DOJ, the governor and race-baiters were not involved. Citizens who are not race-based looked at the facts as presented by the media and still thought OJ was guilty.

    The media presented a very one sided view of the Zimmerman case and it was difficult to obtain unbiased reporting. They called him a self-proclaimed Hispanic which is equivalent to calling the president a self-proclaimed African American. Yet most people felt that the state of Florida had a weak case presented poorly and the verdict was not surprising. Examining the motives of the establishment is a proper role for the media. Thanks DN.

  • postaledith Freeland, WA
    July 15, 2013 3:34 p.m.

    There are no bars in the prison that George Zimmerman will be for the rest of his life. His crime is he took away the most precious thing from his parents.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    July 15, 2013 4:52 p.m.

    Did The FBI not conclude racism played no role in this, whatsoever?

    I'm grateful as all heck GZ was found to be innocent of all charges, which should never, ever have been brought against him, in the first place! I pray he's able to establish some modicum of normalcy in his life at some future point, as much as it's even remotely possible to do so!

    Good luck to you, GZ!

  • MapleDon Springville, UT
    July 15, 2013 5:37 p.m.

    Those of you who are on the "racism" bandwagon, are you only concerned about the white on black crimes? Are blacks capable of racism, and if they are racist is that a problem to you?

    Are you familiar with the recent case of Joshua Chellew? He was a white guy recently murdered by four black guys. Why wasn't this case reported by the press? For the same reason so many other black on white cases aren't reported. Do you care?

    There is racism in this country...and most people recognize it. But today's racism is mostly blacks against not only whites, but also Latinos (like Zimmerman), Asians, etc.

  • county mom Monroe, UT
    July 15, 2013 5:42 p.m.

    How pathetic.....

    If he was so precious to his parents, why was he not at home?

    What got Trayvon Martin killed was he attacked and beat Zimmerman.

    Who lets their child wander the streets at night, especially a 17 year old child who has had past dealings with the law and has been known to sell and use drugs?

    We as parents are responsible for our children and we face heartache when we do not keep that responsibility. I feel sorry for Trayvon's parents, they failed to protect their child. They failed to teach him to be respectful of himself and others. They will suffer for this lack of teachings.
    So will George Zimmerman.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    July 16, 2013 7:15 a.m.

    I wonder why the DN, in their "coverage" did not name the "major television network" that aired a highly edited 911 call to make it look racist when it was not? Other major news disseminators named them (i saw on yahoo that the defemation lawsuit against NBC is going forward)

    It was NBC - they have fired a number of people over it, and it was their exploitative "journalism" that heated up the race rhetoric. The Wal Mart that was looted in LA riots over the verdict should also sue NBC for damages, since NBC contributed to the attituted that led to the looting.

  • SCfan clearfield, UT
    July 16, 2013 10:13 a.m.

    Many of you who bemoan the death of Trayvon seem to forget that it was Trayvon who was in the aggressor position (best eye witness evidence) and it would likely have been the injury or death of Zimmerman if he had not had a gun. Are you favoring one over the other?

    As for the future of Mr. Zimmerman, I only hope he gets a big financial settlement from NBC for their damaging lies told about him.

  • snowman Provo, UT
    July 18, 2013 12:43 p.m.

    DN Subscriber: Because of what Zimmermen did his life isn't worth much right now. He is never going be to able to forget what he did. It will follow him for the rest of his life.

    TMR: THe difference betqwwn this case and OJ is there was no proof that OJ did it. That case was botched by the cops.