Re: "Everyone benefits from excellent roads."Everyone, that
is, but cynical "environmental" organizations, whose livelihood and
existence depend on wringing donations from a tiny cabal of rich, but imprudent,
iconoclastic, self-indulgent "greenies."
shh! don't give them any ideas!
Those darn environmentalists who want clean water for our kids to drink and
clean air for us to breathe! I wish they would just go away and let factories
& refineries kick out any amount of pollution they need in order to maximize
profits. We should also be allowed to build roads anywhere we want! Why limit
driving? It's not like the earth is running short on resources or anything.
I disagree with my beloved Nature Conservancy on this issue. We do NOT need
another freeway to simply encourage urban sprawl in this valley. What we need is
intelligent and cost-effective building of public transit and higher density
housing. Otherwise, the environmental cost of 3 million commuters in this valley
will far outstrip the effect of this freeway on the GSL wetlands.
Ernest T. BassHate to break the news to you, but environmentalists
aren't the only people who want clean water for our kids to drink and clean
air for us to breathe. But thanks for the over-dose of self_reightousness.I think EVERY person alive want's clean water and air. But you
can keep pretending it's just you if you want.Some people just
think we need roads too. Just because we have another road
doesn't mean we all will drive on it (or that the number of drivers will
suddenly increase). It means SOME people will have a road that is more
convenient for the new areas where population is growing. Building
a road doesn't automatically increase the number of drivers... it increases
the # of options. It means some of the drivers who used to drive the old_road
can now use the NEW_route. Which is more efficient (Green)? 1. 2 roads that flow efficiently and serve areas where people live? Or2. 1 road that's plugged with stop_and_go traffic, engines idling, and
doesn't go where many of the drivers live (so they have to drive farther)?
Re: "We do NOT need another freeway . . . ."Which really
means, "I've already got mine. YOU don't need a freeway."
Irony Guy,The way to control population growth isn't by refusing to
build roads.-People won't stop having children just because
this road doesn't get built.When those children grow up they
will need places to live, roads to get them to work, etc. Not all will choose
to live in inner-city-slums or only places served by public transportation.
Some people prefer a different lifestyle and will live in more rural areas
whether you like it or not. Just sticking your head in the sand and pretending
these people don't exist, or thinking not build roads make them go away or
move to your slums... won't work. More_roads doesn't
neccesarily mean more_drivers. Population will grow whether you build this
road or not. The number of future drivers is a function of our birth_rate, not
the number of roads we build.This is still a free country. If
people want to live in rural areas or suburbs they can. You can't force
free people to live in the inner-city and use public transportation (the
progressive eutopia).Not building this road will not change the fact
that populations grow.
The following ...ALL... are needed.A new road.Front
runner widened from 1 to 2 tracks.People encouraged (possibly by
government) to live close to their work.On I-15 each work morning
thousands of cars are going north and thousands of cars are going south. Imagine
the benefit if all those people traded houses.
Any new traffic corridors near marches, wetlands, or any other environmentally
sensitive or significant locations need to be implemented with the minimum
amount of environmental degradation. In Davis County, there needs to be a strict
moratorium on any new construction west of Legacy Highway in order to preserve
the wetlands and the world-class migratory bird habitat. Humans have
become little more than parasites on the planet. By slowly killing the host
organism, we are slowly killing ourselves as well.
Irony guy,I have a number of trees, large bushes, shrubs, and a lawn. My
carbon absorption MORE than makes up for my carbon creation. How many urban
apartment dwellers can say the same?2bitsDon’t disabuse
Ernest of his delusion. He needs SOME type of entertainment.Demo
Dave,“Humans have become little more than parasites on the
planet.”If that is how you view yourself, I am sorry for you.
I don’t think conservatives feel that way about themselves.