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Michael Gerson: GOP needs to stop trying to defeat Obama and focus on winning

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  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    May 1, 2013 5:09 a.m.

    "Some conservative Republicans — convinced that the only duty of an opposition party is to oppose — seem pleased with this turn of events. They would urge their party to finish the job by killing immigration reform and halting budget negotiations.

    This approach lacks only one element: an actual strategy."

    And tbat about sums it up. To many Americans, ever many conservatives, the Republican party has become just about doing nothing, maintaining the status quo. They provide little to vote for... rather a vote for a Republican is a vote for someone who will vote no.

    To many, this is enough. But when the country is in search of "leadership", this falls way short of what will propel the party into something the people view as making America competitive for the next 100 years.

  • Roland Kayser Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 1, 2013 5:33 a.m.

    Too bad Mr. Gerson holds a minority view within the Republican party.

  • bandersen Saint George, UT
    May 1, 2013 8:28 a.m.

    Just a note: A nation divided against itself cannot stand. Although many would have you believe that it is about Democrat versus Republican, it is not. It is about God and his principles versus anything that takes our nation away from Him. The Democrats and Republicans will continue to squabble and vilify there opponents, while ordinary, freedom loving, God-fearing Americans will forge ahead promoting policies that support goodness, God, marriage, family, work, Constitutional principles and thrift. That mantle to do so will come not from a party, but will shape the party that wants to lead. I guess we will see which one wants to do so? If it isn't obvious now, it will never be so, that what has come across as 'leadership' is not leadership at all. Both parties have failed the American people, or should I say, both parties have done exactly what their constituents wanted! Perhaps they are ready for a change.

  • The Hammer lehi, utah
    May 1, 2013 9:02 a.m.

    Although i agree with the premise, His suggestions for fixing the problem are bad ideas. The Gun legislation was one of those peices that crosses line as far as principle. Republicans Should never vote to put more power in the hands of the executive and they should be appalled about executive orders. Immigration is an area that the republicans need some sense knocked into them and if this last election wasn't proof enough just wait until all of these illegals have children in the US who with US citizenship grow up and start voting. THEY WILL VOTE OUT ALL CONSERVATIVES and the republican party won't have a leg to stand on at that point. The hispanic vote just needs to show up in numbers in places like texas and Arizona and the Republican party will be finished.

  • HS Fan Salt Lake City, UT
    May 1, 2013 10:08 a.m.

    Those that don't learn from history are likely to repeat it. The GOP will not win a Presidental election until it embraces some moderate positions and supports mainstream candidates. Does anyone actually believe Dwight Eisenhowser or Teddy Roosevelt would even consider themselves Reepublicans in this day and age? Highly unlikely. Just ask those under 30 what their perception is of the GOP and they'll tell you rich, white, religous people who only care about people like themselves.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    May 1, 2013 11:03 a.m.

    Reagan's BIG tent GOP is not even a pup tent anymore.
    It's more like a tattered handkerchief with a large hole in it.

    Women, Minorities, Old People, Young People, Unions workers, Gays, Federal Employees, Enviromentalists, and else with a dog in the fight is left completely out of the GOP.
    In fact - they are even deemed the "enemies" by the GOP.

    Good luck winning ANYTHING with an attitude like that.

    America is great because of it's diversity.
    It is the great melting pot.
    Everyone is equal, everyone is valued, everyone is needed.

    The GOP and it's ZERO tolerence, and NO compromising is the anti-thesis to everything that makes America great.

    Good riddance.

  • George New York, NY
    May 1, 2013 12:14 p.m.

    I have to admit I expected the same old, same old, I am pleased to see at least one person that seems to understand that it’s not that the American people do not understand the conservative point of view but rather that that view no longer speaks to the American people. You do not have to become liberals but it is time to face the modern reality of your electorate if you wish to remain relevant.

  • bandersen Saint George, UT
    May 1, 2013 12:32 p.m.

    LDS Liberal: Look around your neighborhood. Do you wander around your neighborhood singling out 'women, minorities, old people, young people, union workers, gays, federal employees, environmentalists...' and raising the flag of equality, interviewing each to find out where they have been hurt, wounded, offended, or denigrated, and then pull them all together to try and fix the problem. No, you don't, because you would all be looking at each other. Any efforts to pull together special interests groups would turn into a dog fight with all being the loser in the end. This nation is a neighborhood, but my vision of a neighborhood thrives on the diversity being a strength rather a weakness. I don't need to divide my neighborhood into independent parties to show how different I am. That is already assumed. What does bring me together are the ways in which I can serve and support each another as each makes his/her own journey, the way God intended. God has given to us all or own path, and supporting my neighbor without dividing the neighborhood into individual groups is counterproductive to unity and love. Which neighborhood do you live? Not mine!

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    May 1, 2013 12:41 p.m.

    I hate to say it but I doubt there is anything the GOP can do to win elections anymore given the low information and hand out mentality of the majority of voters. America has fallen into a culture of lazy socialism and like the now bankrupt countries of western Europe who have found socialism to be a death sentence America will soon realize the same bleak future. Take cities like NY, LA, Chicago, Detroit and Phili ... these are nothing but stink holes of welfare and liberal socialism and they comprise a HUGE chunk of the electorate. Can the GOP do anything at all to attract people who just want free stuff?

  • There You Go Again Saint George, UT
    May 1, 2013 1:18 p.m.

    @patsy

    "...I hate to say it but I doubt there is anything the GOP can do to win elections anymore...".

    The GOP will continue to do what it has always done to manipulate low information GOP voters in order to win elections.

  • 1conservative WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    May 1, 2013 1:28 p.m.

    First of all: the author of the article is a left-wing liberal that does nothing but cheerlead for Obama. Folks like him try to give the Republican party advice that isn't wanted or needed.

    Second: Wait until the middle to upper middle class get their bill for "Obamacare" - they won't be happy. THEY get to pay for healthcare for all the illegals, the poor, and even some who aren't so poor.

    Third: Its quite possible the Senate will be dominantly Republican after the 2014 elections. That will make the Obama agendas more and more unlikely.

    I do agree however, that IF a new amnesty bill is passed, it most likely WILL end the Repub. party. They won't be able to recover.

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    May 1, 2013 1:29 p.m.

    Prime example of GOP focus, nevermind the majority of American voters:

    "Sen. Pat Toomey (R-Pa.) revealed that some members of his party opposed expanding background checks for gun sales recently because they didn't want to "be seen helping the president."

  • The Hammer lehi, utah
    May 1, 2013 2:39 p.m.

    Amnesty won't kill the republican party, but being seen as a racist party will end our ability to win the presidency and maintain any hold on the senate for years to come. Amensty under Rubios bill would likely give conseravtives enough time to recruit in hispanic areas before they could vote which will likely nullify any gain democrats might get out of the issue. Politics is personal and if conservatives would reach out they would find welcoming arms. Most hispanics share family values with the republican party and if our party would focus on helping the family and stop kicking people out for not being 100% libertarian than we could actually change the face of our socialist direction and be more in line with our limited government ideals.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    May 1, 2013 3:30 p.m.

    bandersen
    Saint George, UT
    LDS Liberal: Look around your neighborhood. What does bring me together are the ways in which I can serve and support each another as each makes his/her own journey, the way God intended. God has given to us all or own path, and supporting my neighbor without dividing the neighborhood into individual groups is counterproductive to unity and love. Which neighborhood do you live? Not mine!

    12:32 p.m. May 1, 2013

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    Great!

    Then I know you regularly invite the poor, old, young, pot-smoking, NON-Mormon, illegal, unemployed, hispanic, black, asian, gay/lesbian, women, over to your house regulary -- since that is the neighborhood you claim to live in.

    FYI - I was blessed to live in Seattle for 22 years, and that pretty much described MY neighborhood.
    It's also what made me the "Liberal" I am today.

  • Roland Kayser Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 1, 2013 3:58 p.m.

    To 1 conservative: Mr. Gerson was part of the Bush administration. He is an active Republican trying to help the Republican party.

    To all conservatives complaining about socialism and liberal welfare policies: Let's pass a law that says that no state may get more in federal spending than it pays in federal taxes. That should solve the problem, right? Except that the big losers under that plan would be the southern states who tend to be the most conservative, the big winners would be the Northeastern liberal states.

    It is liberals who pay for conservative welfare, not the other way around.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    May 1, 2013 5:25 p.m.

    @ Roland Kayser. I hate to call you on your misinformation, again, but you are dead wrong about liberals paying for conservative welfare. Its actually just the opposite.
    Washington DC has the highest per capita welfare recipients in the nation with Guam in second and California in 3rd place. Washington State is 4th. Mississippi is about 25th on the list and Utah is 49th. Please stop spreading falsehoods!

  • Ralph West Jordan Taylorsville, UT
    May 1, 2013 6:25 p.m.

    Sad to say that there is nothing Repubs can do at this point to win! Fact is they have lost the next generation of voters! Only hope is to let the crazies run their course then come back to the middle and start over! Republican are not going to see the white House for at least another 11 or 12 years, if then!

  • Roland Kayser Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 1, 2013 6:40 p.m.

    To Mountanman: The five states who pay the least in federal taxes in relation to what they get back from the federal government are: New Mexico, Mississippi, W. Virginia, Montana, and Alabama.

    The five states that receive the least back from the feds in relation to the taxes they pay are: Delaware, Minnesota, Illinois, Connecticut, and New York.

    Utah gets back more than we pay although we are closer to the middle of the pack. With the exception of New Mexico, it's pretty clear that it is the liberal states that support the conservative states, and New Mexico has been quite conservative until very recently.

    Source: The Economist (not a part of the liberal media)

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    May 1, 2013 7:09 p.m.

    Roland.. Your numbers are meaningless! Of course states with the highest population will pay more taxes because there are more people in those state to pay taxes. What you are debating is baloney! PER CAPITA welfare spending is the only accurate measure and it totally refutes your claims.

  • Roland Kayser Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 1, 2013 8:15 p.m.

    My figures are federal taxes paid versus federal spending in a state. It is a ratio, not a function of population. Look up the chart on the Economist's website. Also, the welfare program (TANF) only consumes 1/2 of 1% of federal spending, so that is completely irrelevant.

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    May 1, 2013 9:20 p.m.

    Says Gerson: "At the end of eight years, Americans will probably be tired of Obama and perhaps of liberalism." Could be, but remember capitalism nearly collapsed in 2009. We are still in the grips of a dangerous global recession. If capitalism finally tanks, not only will the electorate be tired of liberalism, they will be tired of conservatism as well. We socialists are ready to serve as an alternative.

  • wrz Pheonix, AZ
    May 2, 2013 12:48 a.m.

    "GOP needs to stop trying to defeat Obama and focus on winning"

    Obama needs to stop trying to take over the US House in 2016 and get to work solving the nation's problems.

  • HS Fan Salt Lake City, UT
    May 2, 2013 8:31 a.m.

    @ Roland
    Touche'. Except you're intellectually fighting windmills with several, consistent, ill-informed posters to the DN. They are ammussing though, and it enlightens us to the challenges America faces with so many uninformed citizens who form their opinions from Fox News or the Drudge Report. Keep fighting the good battle though.

  • bandersen Saint George, UT
    May 2, 2013 9:44 a.m.

    LDS Liberal: Indeed! I would invite them, but your neighborhood doesn't describe mine eactly. I do have the poor, the old, the young, the non-mormon, the unemployed, the hispanic, the black, the women, and even some white anglo saxon men (or did you just forget to mention them on purpose as being someone not worth empathizing with). I don't know about the pot-smoking, gay-lesbian, bullies, etc. because I figure that I will let them work out their problems on their own unless they ask for help. Of course, wanting to protect my children or other innocents from the influence of negative behaviors, I'd shy away from inviting them into my home. Perhaps that is why my neighborhood is different from yours. We pretty much take care of each other and everyone pretty much has a set of values that everyone agrees upon. I don't see all those subgroups around me. I just see regular people serving each other and doing the best they can with what they got. That makes it a nice place to live. No one whining, no one creating division, no one demanding their rights, just living. Nice neighborhood!

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    May 2, 2013 10:46 a.m.

    bandersen
    Saint George, UT

    I don't see all those subgroups around me. I just see regular people serving each other and doing the best they can with what they got. That makes it a nice place to live. No one whining, no one creating division, no one demanding their rights, just living. Nice neighborhood!

    9:44 a.m. May 2, 2013

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    In other words -- everybody is Just Like You!

    BTW - you are in total denial about the over use/abuse of Anti-Depresant and PainKilling medications, On-Line pornography, and failure to pay finacial obligations.

    Utah ranks higher than the "average" American in each of those categories.

    All is NOT well in Zion, my friend.

  • bandersen Saint George, UT
    May 2, 2013 2:18 p.m.

    LDS Liberal: I am not in total denial about the over use/abuse of Anti-Depressant and PainKilling medications, On-Line pornography, and failure to pay financial obligations. How did you assume that? Perhaps you are in denial about how to help all those people. You can't help drug addicts, abusers, porn addicts, etc. by telling them it isn't their fault, or creating a special interest group to meet together often to discuss ways to get society (the neighborhood) to accept their behavior as normal and list all the grievances they have, and then appeal to the government(the neighborhood) to take someone to court for various and sundry reasons. A neighbor that serves his neighbor, the way Jesus suggested, doesn't solve his/her problems or challenges as much he/she shows the neighbor how to do it him/her self, something government can't do. A real neighbor offers real charity,not psuedo (government)charity. We have far too many taxpayers that delegated charity to government, patted themselves on the back,went back to their cushy jobs, fenced in houses,and entitled children, and then probably promoted a government program to take care of the poor.

  • HaHaHaHa Othello, WA
    May 4, 2013 6:22 p.m.

    I bet all the states mentioned by RK, as having paid the least amount of taxes, would be happy to go for his deal, if they could also offload all the unfunded federal mandates, and allow true market forces to govern what they spend on labor and supplies for all state services. In other words, end payoffs to unions!