Re: "Parents and children are hurting, but blame is not to be placed on
teachers . . . ."No, we wouldn't want to do that.We were doing fine without Common Core. Then UEA/NEA extorted Utah compliance
with its mandates. Now, predictably, parents and children are suffering.But no, we shouldn't blame teachers or their gritty, greedy trade
union.This is just sad.
The Department of Education???? What an oxymoron!
Don't expect much sympathy from the party which hates and attacks education
on a daily basis. These folks are so critical of education because they just
couldn't cut it in the classroom. They have now become welfare recipients.
Takers. See, in our country you have producers and takers. There are
those who have obtained an education and have become productive members of
society. Then, you have those who never received an education, aren't
productive members of society, and bash education at every opportunity. This is
what the GOP has become. When you look at a map of welfare recipients, you will
see that the deep south is the largest taker of entitlements like welfare and
food stamps. This is the GOP's base. They hate education. Utah,
is no different. Utah is one of the greatest taker states. Hence, why you see
many on here bashing education. It is like that pretty girl that they could
never get! So they have become bitter and bash education at every
opportunity.Sorry repubs, but education is the future, more
"shock and awe" wars and bank bailouts is not.
So 60-70% of Utah residents are on welfare and food stamps, including me? I
never knew! I thought the Bachelor's Degree and my subsequent 30+ years of
gainful employment were what had helped my wife and me to raise and support my
family. Now I know that in fact I hated education all along, never got one, and
I'm a welfare recipient! Thanks, Maverick!
Re: "Sorry repubs, but education is the future . . . ."If
only. Nice attempt to animate your low-information liberal base, however.Not a word is true, but when has that ever stopped committed liberal
propagandists?Common Core will destroy education, just as surely as
Obamacare destroyed health care. The highly illustrative fact that they're
still making it up as they determine what they can get away with, can't be
a surprise to those following UEA/NEA efforts to foist this abomination on
us.And, while we're talking producers and takers, note that the
Left Coast, alone, has more food stamp recipients than the Deep South, combined.
Throw in NY, NJ, MA, and the Rust Belt, and they triple the totals in the Deep
South. Utah, of course has one of the lowest rates in the Nation.The
future of Utah education is, indeed being decided these days, however.Whether it remains a bulwark against anti-American lies/left-wing rhetoric, or
becomes a Democrat, trade-union tool, producing nothing but low information
voters, is up to us.
Maverick speaks like a true progressive liberal elitist. His education and
opinions far outweigh anyone he disagrees with. He makes generalization and
comments to denigrate his opposition, knowing full well he is making false
statements to gain his ilks support. I like Jon W. resent your insinuation that
my degrees are not an education and my providing for my family is somehow not
productive.The Maxwell Poll has detailed information about welfare
use. The data showed a plurality of voters supported Democrats. ...in a
two-party split, 60-80% of welfare recipients are Democrats, while full time
Workers are evenly divided between parties.You have similar results
in this recent NPR-Poll. Among the Long Term Unemployed, 72% of the two-party
support goes to Democrats.
Wow, I can smell the venom all the way through my firewall. There's a lot
of hate on this board for teachers and unions. You would have to go
back to 18th century Ireland and talk to a protestant to hear that kind of hate
for unions.Hilarious talk about low information voters when it was
republicans that though Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction and was
the mastermind of 9/11. The also still think Reagan was financially
Re: "Hilarious talk about low[-]information voters when it was [R]epublicans
that though [sic] Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction . . . ."That's not-so-hilarious liberal sophistry.EVERYONE,
Democrat and Republican, alike -- including all the current Democrat leadership,
the national intelligence community, and all our allies -- thought Saddam had
weapons of mass destruction. He told us he did. The best national and
international intelligence told us he did. And, he had possessed and used them
in the way-too-recent past to discount that universally accepted
intelligence.Most tellingly, we found large quantities of chemical
weapons of mass destruction when we entered Iraq.Confused liberal
bleating, notwithstanding, suggesting "Bush lied" or that he was somehow
irresponsible, remains either inexcusable ignorance or disingenuous sophistry.
I did not know Bill and Hillary, Joe Biden, John Kerry, or Harry Reid were
republicans. The resolution backed by Reid, Biden, Clinton, Kerry and other
Democratic Senate leaders also claimed that "the risk that the current Iraqi
regime will employ those wmds to launch a surprise attack against the United
States or distribute them to those that would. Note Biden was on the committee
to determine the possession of WMDs. "Hilarious talk about low
information voters when it was republicans that though Saddam Hussein had
weapons of mass destruction"
procuradorfiscal,Just to be clear, "the Left Coast" has more
people than the deep south. You mentioned "NY, NJ, MA, and the Rust
Belt". The Rust Belt is not a clearly defined place, but generally
speaking, the states that would make it up and the others you cite have
populations between 6.5 and 19.4 million.But, on a per capita basis,
the highest food stamp usage is (mostly) in the south. Of the traditionally
southern states, only Virginia and North Carolina have usage rates lower than
the US. This is according to a recent WSJ article.
We don't need a common core since all of our kids won't want to work
or live anywhere but here where the wages are (gulp) eleventh lowest in the
country and teacher pay is the lowest (so much for a union). Not to worry
though the REAL problem is that the mean Feds want to push more stringent
requirements on our kids. Shame on them!
After reading the comments I had to reread the letter. Good luck in
finding out how to teach.
I like the common core and Obamacare analogy. Of course blame might be with
both D's and R's. Now let's take healthcare. I don't think
doing the status quo is much the answer. I mean health care was out of control
before Obamacare was around, wasn't it? In reality it's in a crisis
and here came Obamacare, not sure it is the solution but let's also face
the reality that healthcare isn't okay as is or as it was before Obamacare.
As for education, I won't say it was in that good of shape before the
common core came along. Now like Obamacare we don't really know the final
outcome but for many it looks dubious. But I think staying the course in
education (like healthcare), especially in Utah, is a scary proposition...