That Thatcher and the Deseret News are a perfect match cannot be disputed. Even
I can claim a certain grudging admiration for some of her accomplishments. But
you had better not forget that her inspiration was the "reforms" of the
murderous Pinochet of Chile. She was a politician, not a deity.
Britain's economic recovery began fourteen years after she first took
office, and compared with France or Germany, was focused almost entirely on
making the rich richer, and the poor, poorer. Sure, her personality was
forceful. What she actually accomplished is much more debatable.
From someone who grew up in a Northern mining town, Thatcher was a hurricane of
devastation. Whole villages lost their jobs in a single day, communities were
instantly crushed. We lost the majority of our exports and privitisation of key
services has meant constant price hikes but poorer service. She set in motion
the rail privitisation and we currently spend more tax money on it than we did
when it was completely government controlled. She supported apartheid and
secretly sent soldiers to train the Khmer Rouge.Lets not forget the
deregulation of the financial markets. She put all the eggs in that basket and
lets look back to 2008 for the result.I find it amusing that all the
US press is pouring out adoration on her. Where I currently live, I heard lots
of fireworks last night.Of course all the blame cant go on Thatcher,
I also have to include the useless Major, Blair, Brown and Cameron for
continuing her insane policies.
Re: "Britain's economic recovery . . . was focused almost entirely on
making the rich richer, and the poor, poorer."Since socialist
Britain has no true poor, the kernel of truth contained in the poster's
statement is that Lady Thatcher's policies were focused on making the
"rich" -- defined as all Britons -- richer.And, what's
wrong with that?Socialists and "progressives" on the other
hand, have focused all their considerable efforts on policies that assured
"that the poor were poorer, provided that the rich were less rich . . .
One could justly and resonably admire Margaret Thatcher for her leadership, and
for her accomplishments. Hers was a voice where "misspoke" and "I
was not informed" would never had been uttered. Three cheers for a gallant
Re: Watson Hers was a voice where "misspoke" and "I was not
informed" would never had been uttered. Indeed, and that is what I most
admired her for, but as is often the case she chose to look at only what she was
comfortable with. Consider the times - they are amazing. Here we have Nobel
Prize winner Milton Friedman sitting down to tea with Pinochet, the mass
murderer and torturer, giving him economic advice. The Chile of Pinochet and
Friedman was the model for Thatcher's economic "reforms." That the
results of those in Britain were often brutal (as has been pointed out in these
comments) should come as no surprise. Thatcher was a politician without doubts
- a dangerous combination if you are in the way.
Much like Winston Churchill, Margaret Thatcher was a Prime Minister for the
time. Her methods and style were needed at time when Britain was moving
dangerously toward malise and impotence due to many years of socialist policies
and subsidies for outmoded, dying industries. She revitalized her country and
reset it toward a more free market footing that has endured ever since.
Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan shared similar ideas and together reshaped
modern capitalism. Her style was much more confrontational than Reagan's,
but worked for the time, just as Churchill's did. However, just as
Churchill's stubborn, confrontational style outlived its usefullness, so
did Thatcher's. She was needed for her time, but her overbearing style was
eventually destructive of her party and not effective in preparing it for a
transition to a different time when cooperation and and moderation were more
effective governing principles.
Hardly a ringing endorsement to say that it was her example that inspired Tony
Blair to follow the US into Iraq. She was effective in the sense
that she got done what she wanted to get done. But what she got done was, many
times, awful. I always find it funny when people point to her and Reagan and
say they ended the Cold War. They had nothing to do with it. Years of
financial mismanagement and stagnation by Brezhnev ended the Cold War. Correct
me if I'm wrong, but neither Britain nor the US toppled the regime. That
was done by courageous Soviet dissidents who faced down tanks and were,
especially in places like Lithuania, shot in the streets. The Soviet people
ended the Cold War. Reagan made a speech, Thatcher cast all Soviets as evil.
All the meetings between Reagan and Gorbechev weren't fundamentally
different than those between Khrushchev and Nixon. The Cold War ended with
Gorby was ousted and people who'd never met Reagan brought down the
government. Thatcher did actually have something to do with Khmer
Rouge and Apartheid, however. So I'll give her that...
Reagan and Thatcher helped form the modern decline of the economy with their
torrent up to the top policies, that have destroyed the middle class and made
the 1% filthy rich.I feel better knowing her and Reagan are having
tea with the Khmer Rouge tonight.Secret dealings seemed to outweigh
any good of both of them might have done.Thanks UT Brit, for actual
insight instead of rhetoric.
@Kim" Her methods and style were needed at time when Britain was
moving dangerously toward malise and impotence due to many years of socialist
policies and subsidies for outmoded, dying industries."Great,
now we have no more industry. Thatcher was not needed for the time, with a bit
of thought and effort we could have kept some of our export capability. She was
a sledgehammer that smashed apart peoples livelihoods. My city of less than
400,000 people ended up with 250,000 unemployed within a couple of years. Have
you any idea what that was like?Street parties are being organised
all over the UK to celebrate her death. The song "Ding Dong the Witch is
Dead" is currently headed for number 1 in the music charts. I find it
completely tasteless myself but that shows the level of hatred for her.
I feel exactly the same about Ms. Thatcher's passing as I did when
President Reagan passed away.
Too bad we don't have more like her right now!
Aw yes,the "velvet glove of the iron fist".this too,
Thatcher was the Reagan of Britian. She destroyed the middle class, attacking
workers at every turn. She was an elitest snob. I say good riddence! In britian
you can hear the song,"Ding dong the witch is dead"