"Nice deal. As are the other elements of the Senate's bipartisan Gang
of Eight plan "Better headline. Does either party want real
immigration reform?What is the chance that any senate "gang of
8" deal will pass in the house?
While the immigration path is long and difficult, and could be streamlined, the
real reform the US needs is border protection reform, and illegal immigration
enforcement reform.But Obama has shown he is not big on enforcement
of the laws, despite the fact that the president is under oath to just that.
"Are Democrats serious about border enforcement?"Democrats
are interested in only one thing... more democrat constituents to win more
elections. They don't care where they come from. Illegal immigrant
sources are just fine with them.The problem is not only the
borders... which will never be secured. It's impossible to stop all
immigration across our borders. We have thousands of miles of border not only is
our south but north, east, and west.A significant part of the
problem is visas. Immigrants come on visas but don't go home. Estimates
are that 43 percent of illegals come in that fashion. What is the committee
planning to do about that? Nothing that I can see.
Immigration is suchhhhhh a big deal to the right! I mean, just look at what the
repubs did in 2000-2008 to fix immigration... They were just ripe with
solutions! If only this spoiled country hadn't elected Obama! I'm sure
the repubs would have fixed immigration had mcCain won....Darn that
"Illegal aliens are really undocumented Democrats", Jay Leno. Its funny
because it is true!
Re: ". . . Obama seems to want an issue, not a solution . . . ."Few can turn a phrase like Dr. Krauthammer!Add the fact that
it perfectly captures, and succinctly encapsulates the Obama regime's
approach, not just to this issue, but to politics in general, and it's a
clear demonstration of political genius of the first order.The good
doctor's insights were likely gained from his firsthand experience with
psychopathological patients -- the closest analogue to Washington politicians --
but whatever the source of his marvelous insight, psychiatry's loss is
political commentary's obvious gain.
We don't need guest-workers, they cost the taxpayers and subsidized
business with cheap labor. We are pushing people out of jobs and out of the will
to work with these massive programs to flood the labor market. We already let in
3 million a year on work visas. The H-1B visa is the most abused visa. It
allows business to bring in cheap foreign labor and replace older workers that
generally make higher wages. It sells out the American worker and their family.
A person can go into debt hundreds of thousands of dollars for education, only
to have your career cut short by American business greed. Seven
amnesties and no enforcement. I don't believe for a minute that visas or
E-verify will be enforced. Prove to America for three years that laws will be
enforced. At least half of the 11 million need to be deported. Border
enforcement means nothing if we don't enforce the laws against those who
make it across the border.
I think the businessman democrats pretty much want the same as the businessman
republicans. Only, since the election votes for democrats come mainly from
working people and election votes for republicans come from business people, the
democrats might have a more favorable view of workers plight. The
problem of immigration that harms the American worker is the low wages and the
lack of jobs. If these two problems could be solved, there might not be an
“immigration problem”.If we could change the rules for
Capitalism to give a more fair distribution of the benefits of the American
society to all our citizens, there might not be a problem with immigration.
Although, the better life for Americans might be an even greater attraction for
people in foreign lands. Unless we are willing to solve our
workers problems, there will never be a satisfactory solution to immigration,
discrimination and many other problems for America.
Leaders in BOTH political parties, if they pass "immigration reform"
(read:amnesty) will prove that they couldn't care less about the average
American worker.The BIGGEST reason average wages haven't
increased (adjusted for inflation)is the flood of illegal foreign workers who
dilute the labor market.Small business organizations, through their
various lobbyists are paying OUR elected representatives to guarantee them a
cheap supply of labor.
We don't need guestworkers! We have millions on Welfare right now,
let's just turn that into Workfare. Put the majority of the "able
bodied" welfare recipients into a workfare program and make them earn their
keep. It's win/win, they will get the help they need and feel better about
working like the rest of us do! I agree that most Americans won't do the
work that immigrants do, however, if the only way to get your welfare and food
stamps were to perform work for it, don't you think that maybe, just maybe,
these people would suddenly get off the couch and do some labor? It's such
a common sense solution that government overlooks it.
American workers will do the work illegal workers do, at a fair price and legal
benefits. A construction worker use to make enough to support their family and
give them a good middle class life. Very few are getting that kind
of pay anymore. Just like farm workers were pushed out of their work,
hospitality, housekeeping, construction and other job fields are being destroyed
as occupations in this country. No one needs to show compassion
towards their neighbor than the chamber of commerce across the country. The
AFL-CIO doesn't represent American workers anymore. They like the amnesty
with 11 million people to recruit for dues.
I have a weird idea. How 'bout the pres work on the budget and the economy
before the next fiscal crisis, instead of avoiding the big issue, by chasing
immigration and guns?Unless... maybe if we put a whole bunch of
American citizens to work building the fence, and enforcing the immigration
laws, we would have not only those people working and thus that many fewer on
unemployment and welfare, but the jobs being illegally taken by illegal
immigrants would also open up to the citizens who are now unemployed. Then he could do both, but mostly it would help the struggling economy by
creating more jobs.
@RichardB"The H-1B visa is the most abused visa. It allows
business to bring in cheap foreign labor and replace older workers that
generally make higher wages."Exactly. I work in tech, and am
above 40 years old. Already the H-1B is and has been a major threat to my
career. Now, if this plan goes through to dramatically increase the H-1B visa
caps, I seriously will consider another career and will probably be forced to
change careers due to my employer hiring foreign workers on the visa and
eventually laying me off. The tech industry has a LONG history of documented
cases of this type of abuse, all the while shouting SHORTAGE! SHORTAGE! of tech
workers. Which is ironic, since the politicians and corporate executives tell us
that there is a shortage of tech workers, and hence the increases in visa caps
are needed they say. But it will most likely push me and tens of thousands of US
tech workers out of their careers, proving that no shortage exists.
Far more important than border enforcement is INTERIOR enforcement. That
includes such things as the DMV checking all vehicle registration applicants for
residency status and arresting those in this country illegally on the spot and
permanently confiscating their vehicles. Same thing at welfare and other
government offices. Also anyone pulled over with an expired visa. It means
heavy fines, jail and prison times, and compulsory deportation for anyone caught
in the country illegally. Illegal aliens take advantage of this
country because they know it is a pushover. Let them know America no longer is
being a pushover and most will self-deport. For those who are deported by
force, no problem; the cost of deportation is a small fraction of what the
presence of illegal aliens costs society each year in perpetuity. The "gang of eight" says America will practice interior enforcement
after amnesty (or so-called "provisional status") but not before? Makes
no sense at all. If they would do it later, then of course they should be doing
it now. They have no intention of enforcing the law, ever, of course. And since when does the AFL-CIO, Chamber of Commerce, and "Gang of
Eight" run America?