Some schools reconsider suspension as a corrective measure
Some discipline methods that do work:* Teacher document, and record
bad student behavior.* With bad behavior, allow swats with parent
permission, and a witness.* If parent won't give permission, have the
student arrested for disorderly conduct, and parent to pay a fine.I
have witnessed this method, and it works. Discipline was no longer an issue.
This articles highlights several things.First, large highschools
don't work. The bigger the school, the more kids fall through the cracks.
Fewer students like at 2A and 3A schools is better for allowing teachers to get
to know the kids and identify problems.This also shows the ever
increasing desire of government to take the place of actual parenting. 30 years
ago, if you were suspended your parents were deeply humiliated and made sure
that you changed your behavior. Now, suspensions mean nothing outside of having
to figure out what to do with you while they are at work.This also
shows that failure in the home spills out into society, and until the individual
decides to change there is nothing society can do to fix the problem.
We already tie teachers hands behind their back to discipline students. If a
child is a behavior problem it is a slap on their wrist and they get back into
the classroom in a flash. Who are we really going to punish when there is a
problem? Answer: The teacher, and the students who do behave themselves. I
believe that students with persistent behavior problems should be allowed to
find alternative means of education. Horizonte is one of those excellent
programs. Teacher's who do choose to teach those students should be
rewarded with higher pay in order to attract good candidates.
"At Horizonte, she found small classes..."That says it all.
I got out of line ONCE in grade school. I say once because back in the day, you
were taken to the wood shed if you caused trouble. Not only did my teacher give
me a good slap, but my uncle, who was his friend, gave my a whack with the belt
too when he found out. Say what you want about corporal punishment, but it
worked on me, and many like me. You see, most of us are smart enough to know
that a whipping hurts like heck and won't get into trouble a second time.
However, when all that happens is a continual slap on the wrist and sent back to
class, there is no reason for kids not to act up again. Take away the
possibility of being suspended and now there is no reason for trouble makers to
What about all of the students that are affected, by the schools inability to
discipline and remove these kids that won't shape up?I
can't count the number of hours, a disruptive student took the teachers
attention, and the focus for that whole class period was dealing with that one
child.If you're going to funnel them into the education system,
then the teachers and the school needs the ability to handle these people.
Rather than tying the villagers hands and allowing these kids of roam free. The
villagers need their hands untied and either the kid is going to learn and shape
up. Or they're going to choose to have a difficult deadend life.
Wow! I actually find myself agreeing with Worf and RedShirt. And all the other
posters here so far.I received three good whacks from the Board of
Education in 8th Grade. Never needed it again.Once, while teaching
in a Utah school, I came across a boy peeing into a sink in the restroom. He
had to call his mother and explain exactly what had happened. Instead of trying
to pass responsibility off, his mother dragged the poor kid back to school every
day for a week after school. Using cleaning materials he had to purchase with
his own money, he cleaned all six restrooms in the school from top to bottom.
They sparkled when he finished.Want to bet he ever tried that stunt
again? If ALL parents were like that mother . . . .On the other
hand, there were the parents who believed their boy and insisted that I was
somehow throwing his homework away every day. When I started having members of
the class keep a record as papers were handed in each day, they started
screaming that I was "embarrassing" their son when he didn't turn
it in. Their kid didn't graduate. They blamed the school.
Back when I was in segregated public grade school in Texas in the forties and
fifties, and desegregated 7-12 in Pennsylvania the fifties, all in small college
and university towns, back before teachers were limited to slavishly following
lesson plans and "teaching the test," and could and did impart valuable
knowledge and wisdom as things came up, teachers in Texas told us in grade
school that suspensions, especially long suspensions, sometimes imposed, were
typically counter-productive. The paddle was used but I don't recall it, or
detention, actually being used that often in grade school, and unruly students
in junior high and high school typically elected a few "swats" in
preference to detention. We had all socio-economic groups and never saw the kind
of trouble common in schools today.