Mr. Kelly still doesn't have the rifle. There's a 20 day wait period
by a responsible gun shop.Not so easy to get, is it?But he did buy a
.45 pistol. He's keeping that.This is a political move by a
I think that the mentality of every one could get past the emotional feelings
and look at the problem that will put a gun in a hand of some one. Besides the
gun isn't the only way for some one to do a bad thing.
He's illustrating a serious point. Now we all need to duck because of the
rocks being tossed by gun-toting paranoids.In the meantime, the
number of anti-government hate groups is multiplying rapidly. Check postings by
the Anti-Defamation League and Poverty Law Center.
@ one old man. The message to be learned here is that even liberals know gun
control laws are useless! Congratulations Mr. Kelly! Had you been packing that
sad day when your wife and others were attacked, you probably could have saved
her and others!
MM - thanks. You just proved my point.
You are welcome one old. My pleasure but you missed the point completely!
@One Old Man - When your family is attacked by people that do not care about
background checks and increased restrictions of gun ownership - I wonder if you
will wish you had something to defend you and your family! Ask Australians how
it has worked for them to have guns taken away. They have reported increased
crimes with guns and they can not protect themselves and their properties.
Criminals do not follow gun laws regardless of how much you say these laws will
control. Chicago should be the case study on most restricted gun laws and yet
the most crimes with guns. How do you reconcile?
The only gun control that would work is to get rid of all guns in the hands of
private owners, and to enforce that with the most un-constitutional 4th
amendment violations immaginable. Plus, the borders would have to be secured
like a TSA line at the airport. Are you Liberals ready for that? If you think
otherwise, let's hear how you control guns in America. Law, regulations,
background checks, waiting periods, clip sizes, bullit restrictions, ect. ect.
ect. will not work any more than Orkin can get rid of all the insects in the
What an elitist hypocrite. He doesn't want the general population to have
assault rifles but he thinks he's above evrybody else. He thinks he's
better than everybody else.
the point is at gun shows you get a weapon and in thr parking lot you can sell
it to a killer just like that for cash. no record is made if even sold to a
criminal. the republican congress when bush was president made the law where the
ATF could not track firearms sales, and only the companies that make them can
track them if they want to. so the only law group in this country has no way to
trck firearms. many are sold to mexican drug lords on a daily basis. they have
told us this when they are arrested. the criminals have as good of weapons as
the police do and murder people amost every day. we cant enforce our laws we
have now. when we went into Iraq without a clue and did not take the ak 47s the
people fired in the air upon occupation we lst our men like crazy.
Has anybody else noticed that the people who cry out the most for gun control
are protected by people carrying guns?
"the number of anti-government hate groups is multiplying rapidly. Check
postings by the Anti-Defamation League and Poverty Law Center." I looked
the anti-Defamation League web and could not see any statistics about
anti-government hate groups. I did find an article authored by the Southern
Poverty Law Center, on Glenn Becks the Blaze. The articles lists the following
as hate groups. Constitution Party, Not Republican or Democrat, you must
be a hate group.We Are Change, by the way this is the White House
Website.We the PeopleWinston Shrout; Solutions in CommerceJoelSkousan.comQuote from their article “Generally, Patriot groups
define themselves as opposed to the “New World Order,”
“Listing here does not imply that the groups themselves advocate or engage
in violence or other criminal activities, or are racist.” Quote by their
rep “We’re not really set up to cover the extreme Left…. We
only ever cover left-wing groups when they have a right-wing
component,…And fear mongering from the left goes on. The
Southern Poverty Law Center is an extreme leftist organization whose articles
and policies have lead to violence.
lket you said "many are sold to mexican drug lords" You do realize this
was a Bush-Obama program run by Eric Holder for which Some were fired or
We just gave F-16's, and 200 tanks to Egypt. Sent guns to
Mexican cartels which have killed American men, women, and children along the
southern borders.Our political leaders, and families are protected
by guards carrying guns.Seems hypocritical to punish innocent
citizens with gun control.
Clue Bay -- I am prepared to defend my family. In addition I am well trained
and competent to do so -- unlike so many of my neighbors who have
"graduated" from the absolutely senseless and wholly inadequate Utah
concealed carry classes.I DO NOT advocate removal of guns from law
abiding citizens, but let's make sure that anyone who seeks to buy one is
actually a law abiding citizen. And let's put some requirements on them to
ensure that they may safely bear the responsibility of carrying a deadly weapon.
Another headline from today -- found just a couple of items down from this
article:4 killed at NY shops; police search for suspectWhen will we finally find the good sense and courage it will take to stop this
stupidity? More guns won't do it. Wisdom will. And wisdom is
unfortunately very short supply within the NRA and among its followers.
@one old man--New York has gun control laws, and why do we send WMD's to
other countries?Should we ban cars, because someone killed another
in an accident? Should we ban airplanes, because people are killed in crashes?
We can ban almost everything. Ban guns in Utah, because of what someone did in
New York?---what started the Revolutionary War?Explain this with
And an American arises from the ashes like a Phoenix bird rises from oppression.
I love an american who knows what his rights are and will profess his loyalty to
America.There is no hypocrisy when being an amreican is awakened.
The real hypocrisy is those who thought that a victim of attack should be
offended because his love was nearly killed and hate the weapon or method of her
become a victim. The real hypocrite renounces his rights then expects other to
protect him and his family and his country.The problem is no one is
protecting our country from invasion and occupation other than the american
citizens. It is our duty as citizens to become armed and ready to defend this
country from our government and foreign occupation. Guns and arms are not
limited to home and self, its an obligation to our country, which is our only
real means of self defense and protecting our families and homes. Eternal
vigilance is a duty that requires every effort to remain armed with defensive
weapons and lots of bullets.Kudos to Mark Kelly, he sees the value
of rights. And pity those who scorn his patriotism.
Another thing to consider...There are over 330,000,000 privately owned
guns in this country. Tens of thousands are sold privately almost every day.
Take a look at the number for sale on ksl.com which covers just one small area
market in this country. This should give you some idea of the enormity of this
situation. No matter how many gun control and registration laws are
passed, a person with criminal intent could and would fairly easily find a way
of getting hold of one if he/she so desired. More controls would simply create a
vast black-market that would be impossible to control.Since we've not
yet done it, we would be better off to effectively enforce existing laws, and
then analyze that effect before even considering adding any more restrictions to