Well, how do you expect our legislators to frighten voters into voting for them
if there is no Big Bad Wolf out there howling at the moon?
If you folks in Utah allow wolves into your state, you will regret it! $300K is
only chump change compared to the economic damage they will inflict on your elk,
deer and moose, just in the loss of tag and license sales. Don't believe
it? Contact the wildlife biologists in Idaho, Montana and Wyoming! We have
wolves running out our ears and are sick of feeding them!
Because whatever Don Peay wants, Don Peay gets. He's the hunting version of
Gayle and the seagull forum.
MM -- I HAVE checked into your claims of what you say is happening in Idaho,
Montana, and Wyoming.Care to guess what the truth really is? I
could post links to the reports from the official websites of all those
states' departments of fish and game, but DN won't allow links.Others who care to learn the truth may Google and learn the facts.
@ Old Man. Believe what you want, I don't care, but I know better because I
LIVE here and spend a lot of time in the wild actually observing wolves and elk.
The mountains here are nearly empty of elk now compared to what it was like
before wolves. I have listened to real biologists and read their reports. I
don't hate wolves, they are just doing what wolves do. I just miss the elk!
Mountainman: Why are you feeding wolves? When running livestock on public land,
then predation is the cost of doing business. The Yellowstone ecosystem is
much healthier with wolves keeping the elk population in check. I realize
hunters don't believe so, but biologist, the real experts, have the facts
to back that up. Wolves and elk have co-existed since the end of the last
ice age. Elk aren't going to vanish due to wolf predation.
@ Earnest T Bass. There are no livestock on public lands here, its too
mountainous. Yellowstone is different because it is a national park. There was a
documentary recently on TV that presented an interesting phenomenon about wolves
in Yellowstone, their numbers are decreasing rapidly. Reason: Too many wolves in
close concentration with each other and they are infesting each other with mites
causing them to loose their fur and they can't maintain their body heat in
the winter and are dying off. Nature has interesting ways of reducing
overabundance caused by over concentration. The researcher stated in the
documentary that he was not sure what the future of wolves in Yellowstone will
be because wolves are very gregarious, especially in smaller geographical areas
(compared to the old west) and will probably continue to have problems with
mites because they are over concentrated. There is the key: problem with wolves
is over concentration compared to the old west. 200 years ago wolves were never
been forced to such concentration but now they are and hence, their problems,
including over predation on elk and other ungulates that are also concentrated.
The biological need for the wolf has been replaced by human activity.
still waiting for some actual credible research instead of vague references to
old hunting buddies mountain man.
Real biologists? Hmmmmm.Then the ones who wrote those reports were
not REAL biologists?Hmmmmm.
Old man. Not everything you read on the internet is truth.George:
Please contact Yellowstone Park biologists about wolves as per my comments
MM -- you mean the official Idaho Fish and Game website is lying?
Ok, so wolves come in. Ok fine. Wolves attack cows or other farm animals.
Farmers hunt them down and kill them. Wolves gone. Cycle starts over again.
I don't know what the problem is. If Utah doesn't want the wolves,
just put an open season on them without the requirement to have a hunting
license. This is how we control the coyotes.There you go state
legislature, a free solution for the wolf problem if they ever get to Utah.
@mountain man yellowstone biologist? You stated you have talked to them
how about a contact name at least? surely if you have talked to someone there
your can provide at least that much evidence. stop stonewalling with vague
"I talked to a guy" references if you have proof to support your claims
then lets have it.
Bring them back! Local ranchers anymore are just profiling at bars in Park City.
What is wrong with saving the money and having the Elected Legislators do their
job in preventing re-introduction rather than paying someone else to do it? Whose relatives would be 'hired' to whine in Washington about this?
I want a complete audit of where that 300 K went. Mr. Dougal are you listening