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  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 27, 2013 10:02 a.m.

    Gonzaga 75
    byu 58

    And still the team with the best win in the state of Utah?

    Utah

    TEam with second best win in the state?

    Utah

    Team with third best win in the state?

    Utah

    Team with fourth best win in the state?

    Utah

    Rock em Zags!

  • TheSportsAuthority Arlington, VA
    Feb. 27, 2013 10:15 a.m.

    I've heard the students have been already been lining up for a couple of day.

    Should be an exciting game, and a win-win situation for BYU.

    A win, and BYU pulls off a huge upset of #2-ranked Gonzaga, the highest ranked team BYU has ever played in the Marriott Center.

    or

    A loss, which would likely pave the way for the WCC to have the #1-ranked team next week.

    Good luck Cougars!

  • Ute Zag everett, WA
    Feb. 27, 2013 10:21 a.m.

    As a Ute and a Zag, I wish the Cougs all the luck in the world but I don't think that there is a chance that BYU can win. BYU is to inconsistent to keep pace with the Zags. They also have no answer to the Bigs of the Zags. Sorry Cougs Davies is not a defensive stopper. Good luck!

    Go Zags

    Go Utes

  • WON84 PLANO, TX
    Feb. 27, 2013 10:22 a.m.

    BYU should get killed. They simply aren't very good this season though this sets up nicely. The pressure is on for Gonzaga to win and assume the No. 1 ranking.

    Also, Gonzaga is not the "best" team who has ever come to the Marriott Center. They might be the highest ranked but, I'd take San Diego St. (two years ago) and Wake Forest at least in recent memory. I'm sure there are others.

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    Feb. 27, 2013 10:51 a.m.

    I'm not convinced San Diego or San Francisco is better than BYU. Both teams took Gonzaga to the wire at their place, but managed to barely win. BYU has a winning record and it's very tough to win at BYU. Only losses came on a last second prayer and rarely-seen on-fire shooting. BYU handled Gonzaga pretty easily last year here, and Gonzaga was the better team. I can see an upset. BYU feeds off the home court and the crowd, and it will be sold out and rockin'. BYU may just very well make headlines Friday morning.

  • Christy B Salt Lake City, Utah
    Feb. 27, 2013 11:03 a.m.

    I see that my little sister was once again the first frantic and emotional poster on another BYU blog.

    She's just jealous that while BYU is hosting the #2 team in the country on ESPN2 in front of a packed 20,000+ seat arena, our rundown Utes will be playing Cal in front of a sparse crowd on ESPNU.

  • Mildred in Fillmore Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 27, 2013 11:06 a.m.

    As long as the referees don't allow the Zags to maul Hawes abd Davies, we have a legitimate shot at beating the Zags at the MC.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Feb. 27, 2013 11:31 a.m.

    Mildred is already looking for excuses. Eeh Gads! This Gonzaga team is very talented, and very deep. If BYU shoots the ball well, especailly from 3 pt. range, they have a good chance of pulling off the upset. It seems like the Zags have dropped at least one road game to WCC opponents over the years: usually St. Mary's or San Fran. I really like this year's team though; very good inside: Olynik, Harris, Dower, etc.

    GO ZAGS GO!

  • GO_COUGARS! Provo, UT
    Feb. 27, 2013 11:28 a.m.

    We lost because of the refs again.

  • nosaerfoecioveht NSL, UT
    Feb. 27, 2013 11:35 a.m.

    Anything can happen in one game, especially at the Marriott Center. I'm not holding my breath, but it's still exciting to have an opportunity to play the #2 team in the country at home. From a Utah fan- good luck to the cougs this week.

  • BlueNtheFace Rancho Cucamonga, CA
    Feb. 27, 2013 12:09 p.m.

    Best Record: Brigham Young University

    Head-to-head: Brigham Young University, Brigham Young University

    Highest RPI: Brigham Young University

    Above .500: Brigham Young University, Utah St.

    Best fans: Brigham Young University

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 27, 2013 12:23 p.m.

    @BlueNtheFAce

    Most top 50 RPI wins: Utah

    Most top 75 RPI wins: Utah

    Most top 100 RPI wins: Utah

    Most top 150 RPI wins: Utah

    Most wins against Tournament teams: Utah

    Best conference: Utah

    Better strength of schedule: Utah

  • cal cougar camarillo, CA
    Feb. 27, 2013 12:23 p.m.

    BYU played great against St Mary's. They did not get beat up by them. Had St Mary's shot normal free throw percentages, we would have won. That game gave me more hope for this team than any other game.

    That being said, if BYU will play with that kind of intensity at home with some home cookin' and a few more calls going our way at home, we do have a chance. But more than that, we just need a good showing here and the WCC championships could be attainable.

  • IRS Agent PROVO, UT
    Feb. 27, 2013 12:39 p.m.

    @ Chris B

    Why is it that Utah has the four biggest wins in the state? Because that is all they have? So what you are saying is that everytime Utah gets a win, it is the biggest win in the state? It appears you are a victim of your own delusions?

    Welcome to the BYU message board

  • IDC Boise, ID
    Feb. 27, 2013 1:04 p.m.

    BYU has been playing more aggresively on defense and it has been making a difference. If BYU can play tough D and hit some 3's, they have a chance. Gonzaga is the better team but at home, BYU has a good shot at knocking them off.

  • BlueNtheFace Rancho Cucamonga, CA
    Feb. 27, 2013 1:15 p.m.

    @Chris B

    Scoreboard! (and the rest that I listed) BYU FTW!

  • Kralon HUNTINGTON BEACH, CA
    Feb. 27, 2013 1:20 p.m.

    Ya gotta love college basketball because the upset is always possible. I can't even remember all of the upsets of ranked teams this year so if BYU plays a great game and Gonzaga doesn't it is possible BYU will win!

    GO COUGARS!

  • skywalker Palo Alto, CA
    Feb. 27, 2013 1:35 p.m.

    WON84

    The best team ever to play in the Marriott Center was the 1971–72 UCLA team of Bill Walton, Henry Bibby, Jamaal Wilkes, Larry Farmer and Greg Lee. In 1972, UCLA won their eighth championship in nine years under head coach John Wooden and had a record of 30–0 while winning its games by an average margin of more than 30 points. That season was also part of UCLA's NCAA record 88-game winning streak.

    In the NCAA West Regional played in the Marriott Center during the first season it opened:

    March 16, 1972, UCLA beat Weber State 90-58 - Sweet 16
    March 18, 1972, UCLA beat Long Beach St 73-58 - Elite 8

    If BYU hadn't been upset by Long Beach St 95-90 in OT in the Sub-Regional held in Pocatello, after leading by 20 at the half, BYU's Kresimir Cosic might have faced UCLA's Bill Walton in the Marriott Center in the Elite Eight.

    -

  • agarrett PROVO, UT
    Feb. 27, 2013 1:50 p.m.

    Most embarrassing loss: UTAH (Sacramento State)

    Least-loyal fans: UTAH

    Conference Doormat: UTAH

    11-win team: UTAH

    Post-season play: NOT UTAH

  • trueblueBYU Provo, UT
    Feb. 27, 2013 1:54 p.m.

    It is astounding to me that Utah fans would come on a basketball story and make derogatory comments about a team that is so much better than theirs. I would pretty much stay undercover if my team had been as poor as their's these past few years (this year included). BYU has not been up to their usual caliber this year but Utah has consistently been terrible.

  • BlueNtheFace Rancho Cucamonga, CA
    Feb. 27, 2013 2:38 p.m.

    The only thing the Utes have on BYU is conference affiliation. We landed our non-football sports in the WCC, a few steps down from the PAC-12. But at least we're not the pond scum of the conference. Congrats Utes! Be proud.

  • BlueCoug Orem, UT
    Feb. 27, 2013 3:06 p.m.

    Skywalker

    "If BYU hadn't been upset by Long Beach St 95-90 in OT in the Sub-Regional held in Pocatello, after leading by 20 at the half, BYU's Kresimir Cosic might have faced UCLA's Bill Walton in the Marriott Center in the Elite Eight."

    I attended every game and BYU's 95-90 overtime loss to Long Beach St was the most exciting game played in the West Region in 1972. Both teams were ranked in the Top 10. Ironically, the 49ers' exciting win over BYU was later expunged along with all of their other games from their 1971, 1972, and 1973 NCAA tournament appearances because of NCAA violations - Jerry Tarkanian was 49ers' coach.

    Weber State destroyed #12 Hawaii 91-64
    #6 Long Beach St stomped San Francisco 75-55
    #1 UCLA annihilated Weber State 90-58
    #1 UCLA handled #6 Long Beach St 73-57

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Feb. 27, 2013 3:12 p.m.

    Chris - U forgot a couple.

    Most losses - Utah

    Lowest ranked in their conference - Utah

    No post season play for football, basketball or baseball - Utah

    Three of top four top players leaving basketball team after this year - Utah

    No marquee players in the pipeline - Utah

    But U are not alone in this last one -
    Teams in Utah who lost to BYU - Utes, Aggies, Wildcats

    There is so much more to be proud of that U forgot to mention.

  • moderateinmagna MAGNA, UT
    Feb. 27, 2013 4:52 p.m.

    well chris b your Utes would lose to every team in the WCC but they would lose by 200 points to Gonzaga, so your point is moot ,your hate and envy is showing, Gonzaga would trounce every team in your precious pac10,2 by more than 20 points The way your Utes are playing right now they would have a hard time beating the Ute womens team.

  • killarney Lincoln Park, IL
    Feb. 27, 2013 5:07 p.m.

    Frankly, Chris B should be embarrassed for even trying to compare that pathetic train wreck on the hill to BYU.

    BYU leads the overall series 129-125, has won 7 straight, and 11 of the last 12

    Average score last 12 games, BYU 74 Utah 62, including three straight 20-point blowouts at the HC

    During the Dave Rose era

    BYU 205-63 (77%) 8 straight 20+ win seasons, 6 NCAA tournaments, 4 conference championships
    Utah 112-134 (46%) 6 losing seasons, 1 NCAA tournament, 1 conference championship

    2013 RPI Rankings/Records

    #60 BYU (20-9)
    #175 Utah (11-15)

  • agb Layton, UT
    Feb. 27, 2013 6:57 p.m.

    Chris B:

    Most come from ahead losses: Utah

    Six losing seasons in 8 years: Utah

    Team most likely to have as many transfers as wins: Utah

    Most embarrassing loss: Utah

    The future of basketball in Utah looks pretty bleak for: Utah.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 27, 2013 7:00 p.m.

    @ moderateinmagna

    Utah is ranked 137, ahead of five WC teams. Utah is bad, but it would still be in the top half of the WCC. Also Gonzaga is good, but they are far from invincible. In fact they already played Washington State and managed to win by a whole two points. I doubt the Zags would be able to navigate a full PAC-12 schedule without taking a couple losses. Lastly, in Utah's previous three games the Utes beat a team ranked in the top 100 (something BYU has not done), lost to a top 10 team by four, and lost to a top 50 team by 10 on the road. There is no need for hyperbole.

  • Rockwell Baltimore, MD
    Feb. 28, 2013 7:55 a.m.

    2fer

    In RPI, Utah is ranked #175, BEHIND

    #10 Gonzaga
    #45 Saint Mary's
    #59 BYU
    #92 Santa Clara
    #161 San Francisco
    #169 San Diego

    The Utes would be in the bottom one-third of the WCC, ahead of

    #199 Pepperdine
    #224 Portland
    #247 LMU

    In the state, the Utes are also way behind

    #103 Utah State
    #106 Weber State

    Lets also not forget that the Utes LOST to

    #187 OSU
    #192 WSU
    #220 SMU
    #223 CSN
    #284 Sac St

    More than half of Utah's paltry NINE Div 1 wins came against RPI 150+ teams

    #166 Wright St
    #220 SMU
    #271 Cent Mich
    #290 Texas St
    #339 Idaho St

    The truth is,

    Utah's bad losses far out weigh Utah's good wins, which is reflected in Utah's #175 ranking.

    Utah would be a bottom dweller in the WCC, just like they are in the PAC 10.2.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Feb. 28, 2013 8:02 a.m.

    Gonzaga would win the PAC 12 and it wouldn't even be that close. They may lose a game, or possibly two, but they are a lot better then Arizona, Oregon or UCLA.

  • cush81 Fairfax, VA
    Feb. 28, 2013 8:15 a.m.

    Striker, I do think BYU is better than USF and USD. However, there are 2 advantages those teams had over BYU. Gonzaga had lost 3 straight in San Francisco, so that place was in the head of the Zags. The difference this year was when it seemed like everything started going USF's way, Gonzaga kept their heads down and played their game. In the end, the game wasn't as close as the score might indicate. As for San Diego, if there's a coach out there who knows Gonzaga, it's Bill Grier. He was Few's right hand man for years before taking that job. He knows all of Few's moves, it's just whether or not he can stop Few's superior talent on the floor

  • cush81 Fairfax, VA
    Feb. 28, 2013 8:17 a.m.

    As a Zag alum and fan, this game does scare me. Personally, I think it's harder to play in the small barns like at SMC then the big ones, but the truth is that Gonzaga hasn't won yet at the Marriott Center, and they played horribly there last year. If they lose tonight, the place will probably be in their heads. Gonzaga has played amazing basketball 3 of their last 4 games, so I think they should win tonight. But I've been around long enough to know that road games in the WCC don't come easy, no matter how inferior the opponent may seem. If this is a blowout, I will be surprised. I have a lot of respect for BYU and their program. I hope they stick around in the conference, because it's fun to have another solid program on the schedule

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Feb. 28, 2013 8:42 a.m.

    @cush81

    Great post and spot on! Amen Bro!

    GO ZAGS!

  • Rockwell Baltimore, MD
    Feb. 28, 2013 8:55 a.m.

    cush81

    It's nice to see a Zags fan checking in. Should be a fun game tonight.

    Go Cougs!

  • deductive reasoning Arlington, VA
    Feb. 28, 2013 9:02 a.m.

    As a BYU fan, I'd love to see BYU pull off the upset tonight, but in the overall scheme, it could be in BYU's best long term advantage for the WCC to have the #1-ranked team heading into the NCAA tournament as a #1 seed and making a deep run in the Big Dance.

    Either way, the Marriott Center will be rocking tonight, and BYU is certainly capable of pulling the upset if they get hot from the outside and their big three all have great games.

  • cush81 Fairfax, VA
    Feb. 28, 2013 9:01 a.m.

    @Rockwell

    Nice to see there's at least one other person who will be burning the midnight oil for tonight's game.

    When I moved here, I was surprised with how many Gonzaga Alum live out here. Considering the difference in school size, I can only imagine how many Cougs call DC home

  • Rockwell Baltimore, MD
    Feb. 28, 2013 9:22 a.m.

    cush81

    BYU has a large alumni association in the DC Metro area. In fact, a recent survey of fans showed that BYU is in the top 20 most popular teams in Washington, D.C.

  • royalblue Alpine, UT
    Feb. 28, 2013 10:17 a.m.

    The Zags have one of their best teams ever and BYU is in a bit of a re-building season, but I'm still looking forward to a great game. Tonight is the WCC's time to shine in the national spotlight.

    Even our friends from the hill are more intrigued by BYU hosting the #2 Zags, than their own game against another team on the west coast.

  • fireonthemtn Reno, NV
    Feb. 28, 2013 11:16 a.m.

    I'm looking forward to the Olynyk/Davies matchup, only to be surpassed by the spasmodic outbursts of fouls, turnovers and poor shot selection by Carlino...

  • TrueBlue Orem, UT
    Feb. 28, 2013 11:18 a.m.

    Word is there are now more than 70 tents filled with BYU students waiting in line at the Marriott Center for tonight's game against #2 Gonzaga - based on past experience, you can figure at least 10 students per tent when the tents come down and the line forms before the doors are opened.

    The excitement is starting to build for a rocking Marriott Center crowd.

    Go Cougs!

  • HighlandsHome Highland, Utah
    Feb. 28, 2013 12:41 p.m.

    Any chance we could get the BYU commits from Lone Peak to play in this game? Then we might have a chance.

  • Riddles in the Dark Olympus Cove, Utah
    Feb. 28, 2013 1:45 p.m.

    TrueBlue

    "Word is there are now more than 70 tents filled with BYU students waiting in line at the Marriott Center for tonight's game against #2 Gonzaga"

    I wonder if there are any Utah fans monitoring this blog who can tell us how many students are lined up at Haas Pavilion for tonight's game against Utah?

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 28, 2013 7:53 p.m.

    @ Riddles

    Are you seriously trying to mock Utah for not being ranked #2? Fail.