Impeachment would be good, as it carries with it a finding of facts. We as the
public are normal to be "rushing to judgment," and doing so is not wrong
of us. What is wrong is that no body -- whether it be a formal court or the
Legislature carrying out an impeachment -- has yet rendered a finding of the
facts. It would be good if our system was such that some legal or government
body did make a quick decision on the facts, in step with the public's rush
to judgment. Injustice is not in being tried and condemned. Injustice is being
condemned without being tried. The public has condemned Swallow, yet not one
justice-rendering body has yet acted. The Sixth Amendment calls for the accused
to enjoy a speedy and public trial. Why should not such a principle be guiding
us in the Swallow case? I do not say, Let the courts (including a legislative
impeachment body) take their course. I say, Let them take their course in the
quick and public fashion the Sixth requires of them.
It is difficult to admit that the political candidate you supported has behaved
so badly that they deserve immediate removal from office. Swallow supporters are
tolerating a level of unethical conduct that they would use to absolutely
crucify a political figure they opposed. Swallow needs to resign.
The ongoing investigation will reveal whether he needs legal punishment as well.
Amen and amen.
It is time for Swallow to go. The success of our country.has been due in large
part to the relative lack of corruption. The American people are already having
to deal with a Federal government that is increasingly corrupt. Let's not
let our Utah's government start resembling that of Chicago or New York. We
need a zero tolerance policy for corruption - Republican or Democrat.
Well said. As soon as the legislative session is over, the legislature needs to
move forward with impeachment.
I agree, the attorney general for the state of Utah should have a better
reputation than Swallow has. It is time for him to just step aside and hopefully
we will end up with someone I and other Utahns feel like we can trust. Stepping
down would be the honorable thing to do, and now would be a good time for
Swallow to show some honor. Best of luck John.
Wow! I'm shocked to say this, but I fully agree with Dan Liljenquist!
I have to admit I didn't vote for Mr. Swallow. Now I believe that may have
been a good decision on my part.
The article doesn't make it clear but impeachment is simply the opening of
legal proceedings. It doesn't mean that the accused has been found guilty.
The person is first impeached, then a trial is held, and then, if found guilty,
removed from office.
I completely agree, Swallow should resign and stop embarrassing the people of
Utah and his family with his lies. He should never have been elected but now
that he is the mistake needs to be corrected.I also believe Shurtleff
needs to be investigated, it seems obvious he is also involved in the Swallow
mess and needs to be held accountable for hushing it up.
Mr. Liljenquist makes some very good points. I think Mr. Swallow should resign,
but not because he has done something wrong. The jury is still out on that. He
should resign because this cloud of suspicion - caused largely by Mr.
Swallow's actions, which are well-documented - makes it difficult for him
to do his job as the state's highest law enforcement officer.The down-side on any call for resignation is that it might serve as an
invitation to opponents of every office holder to make unfounded attacks. There
is a fine line to draw when it comes to a call for a politician's
resignation, but I do believe the undisputed facts about Mr. Swallow have
crossed that line.
I agree with Dan. I know school teachers and police officers who were
immediately fired for lesser offenses than what John Swallow has already
acknowledged. I understand that John is an elected official and personally
believe he should be allowed to present his case in an impeachment hearing
rather than simply being pressured to resign. So far the only attempt at
accountability John Swallow has made was to request a federal investigation of
the charges - but only when he knew full well such an investigation was already
going on. As a College Professor I have been told repeatedly that I have a
position of trust and will be held to a higher standard than others in society.
I accepted that when I accepted the job. Its time for John Swallow to accept it
For the first time in my life, and likely the last, I agree with Dan
Liljenquist. He makes a very strong argument for Swallow's resignation. I
hope Mr. Swallow and our legislators read his article.
So is Dan itching to take the position? He jumped on the hate bandwagon with
hopes of having someone in Utah remember him? I admit that it is easy to
remember that Dan was absent from his duties most of the time he was in office.
He collected money for a job he was not doing. I am sure that Disney cruise was
nice, but it seems like the pot is calling the kettle black.
Exercising bad judgment is what happens when you don't have a body of
values and ethics that you obey. Living a set of values and ethics keeps you
from doing things that seemed like good ideas at the time but in retrospect were
Utahns had a chance to elect an excellent Attorney General, one who was named
Utah’s 2011 County Attorney of the Year and the 2010 Utah Gang
Investigator Association's Prosecutor of the Year while working as lead
prosecutor for Weber County. His name was Dee Smith. Unfortunately, Dee Smith
was not one of the "Good Ole Boys" from the Republican Party. Utahns
got what they deserve for reflexively voting for anyone with the magic
"R" next to their names on the ballot.
"Our system of government depends upon the fair and impartial application of
the law."That is really funny! Just the oposite is true. Our,
one Party rules, system runs on partiality. We don't have a true debate on
anything in this State. We don't have benevolent leaders, at least we
haven't for a long time. We have a governemnt controlled by some powerful
special interest groups. That much is plain and simple!
I voted for Swallow but how about we just give the office to the Dem contender?
These comments are interesting, but so far nothing concrete has surfaced. If he
intentionally witheld information regarding the use of the houseboat, is that
sufficient for impeachment or resigning?Why is it that he is
presumed guilty until proven innocent?
Who needs to site Chicago style politics when we have an AG under investigation
for ethics violations, a Jr. Senator insisting on Fiscal responsibility while
taking advantage of a ShortSale foreclosure rules, and the oldest, most
entrenched Washington insider U.S. Senator ever?One Party political
systems are the most fertile soil for corruptioned Governments.
While I agree with the general thrust of this piece, does anyone else find it
ironic that its author was alleged to have pulled some extremely questionable
things in the past -- and during his recent bid for Congress?
Sean Reyes should take his place.
The funny thing is the belief that the resignation of Swallow would somehow
bring about an AG in office the public can trust. That certainly wouldn't
be our buddy Liljenquist and I find it ridiculous that he even has the nerve to
speak on this subject given his track record. Of course he wants Swallow to
resign, I hope he is wrong in thinking he has a shot at the position. If it
seems there are problems in the AG office now, Liljenquist makes John swallow
look like a saint.
Irony of the Year: John Swallow, whose career consists of lawyering up for the
multilevel marketing and payday loan "industries," and then offers them
preferential treatment for a handful of campaign cash--- is Swallow really the
best Utah has to offer for AG? The seamiest lawyer in town? Where do the
Republicans get these candidates? Dee Smith, the courageous and capable Weber Co
Attorney, was the obvious choice to anyone with any familiarity at all with
these two candidates. Once again, Utah's Republican Brain shuts down.
To "LDS Liberal" then are you calling Washington DC corrupted? They are
dominated right now by Progressives, and using your logic and arguments they
must be corrupted.
@ Redshirt.... does "Why is it that he is presumed guilty until proven
innocent?" only apply to republicans?I am always amazed at the
conditionality of condemnation of behavior on party lines. Both ways. Not
saying Redshirt is doing anything the other side doesn't do. But it would
be ever so nice if the same standards applied regardless.
This attorney general election was the first time I voted for the democrat. My
personal dealing with Sallow, while admittedly not great in number, persuaded me
he was not the man for the job.
My fellow Utahns, Why is it illegal for a teacher to accept a gift
which exceeds more than a $25 dollar value because it might "influence"
that educator while it is perfectly "ok" for the AG to accept a gift of
$20,000? 20k doesn't influence? HUH???The term, "public
servant" was lost in Heir Swallow's mind. I'm sorry
folks, but I don't care whether it's illegal or not to accept these
types of gifts and then hide them. It's all about avoiding EVEN the
APPEARANCE of evil. Our repub legislature needs to wake up and smell the hot
chocolate. Trust and transparency are the issues here.Who does Heir
Swallow think he is anyway? It's almost as if he's obsessed with his
title and addicted to its power and authority. As Utahns, are we comfortable
with this? Are we comfortable with the arrogance and corruption displayed once
more by the GOP in our state? Enough student vouchers, prison relocation, and
bribes to contractors. Enough dirty deals! My fellow Utahns, this
issue isn't about Dan Lindquist. It's time for Heir Swallow to retire
from "public service"and these "gifts."
To "UtahBlueDevil" what are you talking about?!! What give you the idea
that I wouldn't apply the same standards to a liberal? Do we have proof
that a law has been broken?
@ RedshirtThis isn't an isolated event. How many more Utah
politicians need to violate ethics laws? How many more are engaged in shady
dealings but who aren't breaking laws? Didnt The Lord tell us to avoid even
the appearance of evil?How many more need to be caught hot tubbing
with 15 year olds and receive standing ovations? How many more need to be caught
sending $13 million to contractors? How many more times do vouchers need to be
rejected? How many more times will the reichstag skip ethics reform and ignore
voters? How many more times must we see our rights trampled and made more
difficult to overturn laws? How many more times must we hear about relocating
our prison on our own dime while handing out money and land to developers?
Corporate welfare? How many more times must we cater to high polluters while
ignoring those with health concerns? Why can't we have the same health care
as our ah-hem public servants?How many more times must we see repubs
like swallow act like they own the place and our job is to merely shut up and
keep them in power?We need change
There have only been a few things that I have agreed with Dan Liljenquist with,
but I need to add this one to the short list. Swallow needs to do the honorable
thing and resign, but if he were an honorable man he would not have been
swirling in the cesspool with people like Jeremy Johnson.
Liljenquit finally has said something that makes sense. Good for him.
Is it possible to have another election if it's warranted? Let's have
3 candidates and Mr. Swallow go into a primary. There must be something in the
Utah Code that would allow for this type of election. I'd just like to see
the truth be revealed and hope it will be soon or Mr. Swallow will be totally
The question is: if the extent of Swallow's past unethical actions (not to
mention the active FBI investigations into them) had been as widely known during
the campaign as they are now, does anybody think he would still have prevailed?
Of course not. He could not have earned the public's trust if his attempts
to hide the truth and cover his tracks had been made public. Yet now he and his
supporters ask us to "presume him innocent" and keep trusting him, even
when he has admitted to acts that are clearly unethical (even if not illegal)?
Absurd."Presumption of innocence" under the law is not the
same thing as "trust." I do not assume he is guilty of a criminal
offense, and the outcome of the criminal investigations will not affect whether
I trust him. The fact is, he has already broken the public's trust, so he
Mr. Liljenquist hit it on the target. The FBI investigation is one thing, and
Mr. Swallow deserves the presumption of innocence in that respect. However, that
is a criminal investigation. The actions to which Mr. Swallow has admitted, and
we know to be true, are sufficient for a call for his resignation. I join the
ever-growing chorus in that call. It is past time for him to step down.
I cannot say I have agreed with the former State Senator very often, but this is
a logical and realistic article. The whole Republican convention in April 2012
had some very peculiar actions at that meeting. During the campaign for the
seat occupied now by Chris Stewart had some disturbing occurrences that appeared
to me to never be answered even though the GOP chairman said it was dealt with.
Also, a lot of the attorneys in the AG's office were directly campaigning
against their chief deputy when Mark Shurtleff paid all kinds of support for
Swallow. Sean Reyes didn't have the name recognition and may have been
impacted on his background which appears to have been a broader career than John
Swallow. John Swallow has been a politician and lobbyist. Mark Shurtleff
should have known in April about Johnson's relationship with Swallow, as he
was his boss and should have known. The ethics of Swallow appear to be less
than what an active Attorney General should have. This will lead to his demise
as there will always be something just around the corner. There are many
actions the elected AG needs to do and not run from everything.
I believe Mr. Swallow needs to resign. He deceived the people of Utah. He has
shown a lack of judgement and integrity - two traits I believe are paramount as
the Attorney General of Utah. I didn't vote for him. It just seemed to me
he wanted to be elected to an office - any office - and would do anything to get
his desired end result. He needs to step down. There are important issues in our
state and our AG needs to focus their full attention on them.
I admit that I don't know a lot about the Swallow case, but why are we
singling him out when the same type of activity is taking place every day, year
long, with our city, county, and state elected officials? When
it comes to taking money from people looking for political favor, and when it
comes to obvious conflicts of interest, why are we giving a pass to governors,
state legislators, mayors, and city councilpersons? Politicians are
soliciting hundreds of thousands of dollars from lobbyists and special interest
groups who then turn around a few weeks later and petition them for political
favor. I don't believe that every elected official has
been corrupted, but we do have a system that is corruptible. I've
been working with people in high places for many years. I've heard
their stories about the political extortion techniques subtly used by
politicians to rake in big campaign money. Its a "you better scratch
my back or I'm not scratching yours" system. Swallow's
situation is ugly, -- the same kind of ugly our other elected officials engage
Interesting that even this op-ed in the News itself references the solid
reporting of its competitor by name. The Salt Lake Tribune has owned this story.
The Deseret News has consistently followed or not even reported pertinent
details that the Trib has on this subject. It is another example of how the News
should seriously re-examine its mission and purpose. To the community's
detriment, it is a shadow of the newspaper it once was.
To "The Real Maverick" again, what law has been broken. We cannot
impeach him unless a law was broken. As for resigning, that is HIS decision,
not the public's.Can you or one of the other people who are out
to get him removed from office tell us what law he has broken?Is
this a case where there was some mistakes on his part, and now a political
opponent is using the situation to take him down?
To John Mclane: you hit it right on the head brother! I couldn't agree
Swallow is a perfect example of a politician willing to say anything, do
anything, hide anything and justify anything to be elected. I'm a
Republican, but I'm also someone who takes voting very seriously and will
not hesitate to vote outside my party if there is a better candidate. In every
election in which John Swallow has been a part of, he has invariably been the
lesser candidate and I have voted against him. Sadly, he somehow managed to get
elected this time, due in no small part to the smear campaign against his
Republican challenger. Whether Swallow was directly involved in that or not, the
people behind it were obviously his supporters, probably closely tied to him,
but either way they were of equally low character. Now, it's time for John
to put his enormous ego behind him and resign and let our State move forward
without a cloud of corruption hanging over it.
I would suggest that with a federal investigation underway, that the Justice
system should be allowed to do its job. If the investigation uncovers deception
or collusion, payoffs or favor trading, then Swallow should either leave
voluntarily or an impeachment process could be launched. What should not
happen is for Swallow be crucified in the press and on TV. That is not justice
and the State of Utah should not be playing such games. As I recall,
Liljenquist, is a "former" State Senator and the looser of a tough
primary. I do not understand why he is now the volunteer spokesman for the
process of Utah ethics.
So all of a sudden we're concerned about the reputation of the office?
What happened with all the years Swallow's predecessor was in office?
Dan makes good points (rare), and Swallow showed bad judgement- or very bad
judgement- in these cases. I knew that I didn't want Swallow as our
attorney general, that's why I voted for Shawn Reyes originally in the
primary election, and as a Republican voted for Dee Smith in the final election,
and was very vocal about it. Reyes was clearly the best candidate of the two
Republicans. The office ought to be passed to Sean or Dee. There's
probably a provision in the law as to how the AG is replaced.I sure
WISH that Republicans would vote for the BEST candidates, not just the members
of their party. In every election cycle there are always, in my opinion, some
VERY conservative people that are running on the Democratic ticket that lose
because a majority of Republicans vote for the straight party ticket, or never
do their homework.
RedShirtUSS Enterprise, UTTo "The Real Maverick"
again, what law has been broken. We cannot impeach him unless a law was broken.
As for resigning, that is HIS decision, not the public's.Can
you or one of the other people who are out to get him removed from office tell
us what law he has broken?7:53 a.m. Feb. 22, 2013========So what I hear you saying is that you will be the very 1st
in line to seek his removal from office once the investigation is complete, and
if he is found guilty of breaking the law - but not a minute before then.OK, cut and paste. We'll holding you to it then.
I don't understand what it means to "seek his removal". That must
be what we are calling all of the current attacks on Swallow. If the feds were
to determine Swallow did something wrong, it would not be necessary to seek his
removal, he would be removed. The whole idea of removing someone from their
position before finding the truth or asking him to remove himself before the
truth is revealed is not right and doesn't make any sense. It is complete
disregard for due process.
Good article Dan. The evidence from donut shop transcript and death-bed
statement of Rawle (and implications of it) are overwhelming: Swallow lacks
judgment, ethics and scruples. We all as voters could have predicted this from
his actions in his two previous attempts to get elected to Congress. The time
is here to rid our system of a bad apple. Give him a full hearing (if he wants
all the mud to come out) and make findings of the bad things he did (as a guide
to future and present politicians) and let both parties (but especially
Republicans) see the result of money, lobbying and bad judgment!