With so many Utes on NFL rosters these days, it seems like every game I'm
cheering for both teams. Whittingham is a top 10 coach in terms of
putting players in situations to make themselves and their teams better.
Victor Hugo once said, "Human meditation has no limits. At its own risk and
peril, it analyzes and digs deep into its own bedazzlement. "That is exactly the problem here. The U attempted to bedazzle itself and its
fans by joining the Pac12. The resulting mediocrity of the football program
means that few, if any, U players will make it to the NFL in the future. Those
who were wise saw this coming.
@ John Charity Spring... I guess nobody told you that Utah has a
top-5 pick entering this year's draft?
Utah had the choice of being a big fish in a little pond or a little fish in a
big pond. They chose the latter. They could've gone to a bowl
game, probably, if they stayed in the MWC, and kept BYU, added probably TCU,
Boise State, and some others. Years from now, fans may ponder that
choice. Will they ever be able to recruit and compete against the big boys of
the Pac12? Doubtful. What will change?So, in reality, they took the
money and ran. Ran to what is the question!
Whats even more cool is that 3 players played high school ball in the state of
Utah. Don't know who I want to win. Was a big 49ers fan until he replaced
With the Utes delivering a 'no show' in the post season for 2012 one
would wonder as to what's the fuss is about. Not much to
'capitalize' on since it was squandered going to the PAC10.2
John Charity Spring / Jim1027:The envy continues to run deep among the BYU
faithful. Any, and I mean any, Utah fan will tell you that the journey in the
Pac-12 is just beginning. A tough and humbling beginning to be sure, but what a
thrilling journey it is. You will just have to take our word for it. "We can't say, 'woe is me.' We have to chart our course.
I understand how disappointed people were that they [Utah] got in the Pac-12 and
we're not. We still have to be as good as we can." Tom Holmoe,
Deseret News, August 16, 2012What cannot be denied is that the
University of Utah is numbered among the elite in the class room, in the
laboratory, and on the field. It is a blessing for the state of Utah of which
BYU is a part.
Yeah, Harbough could have lost, again, the NFC championship game with Alex Smith
or won the NFC championship game with Kaep. Tough choice.
It is because of benching Smith that the 9ers are where they are today. I did
not see this happening with Smith at the helm... The season was too up and down
and Smith was not putting out a super bowl type season. So therefore....
Harbaugh made the ABSOLUTE best decision.. Now go out there and crush the
Just a note is that while Miami may be the 'only team to have more'
Utah doesn't sit alone with 4.... OSU is at least one other team with as
many all on the 9ers.... Guess we can see head to head whose alumni are
@John Charity SpringIs that so? Considering Utah has increased the star
power of its recruitign classes since joining the PAC-12 (26 3-stars and 2
4-stars this year whereas the numbers were roughly half that a few years ago) it
would seem the odds are increasing rather than decreasing.
sammyg said:"With the Utes delivering a 'no show' in
the post season for 2012 one would wonder as to what's the fuss is about.
Not much to 'capitalize' on since it was squandered going
to the PAC10.2"If anything BYU delivered a 'no show'
in the post season of 2012. Nobody, even national media, are not saying a thing
about them. Why? It's humiliating enough that USU got higher bowl ratings
than BYU did.Not much to 'capitalize' on since it was
squandered becoming an independent.
@alt134Remind me again why we play the game? Why don't we just look
at the number of stars from players and decide who wins the NC. We could save a
lot of injuries and hurt feelings that way. But u would still be in last place
in the PAC 10.2.
I know John C Spring and Sammy, I'm so glad we're afraid to compete so
let's keep playing Idaho State.
Jake2010"I did not see this happening with Smith at the helm...
The season was too up and down and Smith was not putting out a super bowl type
season."Well you'd be about the only one who saw it that
way since most experts had the 49ers as their Super Bowl favorite at the time
Smith was still starting. The 3rd highest QB rating in the league at the time
would also contradict your opinion._____"Just a note is
that while Miami may be the 'only team to have more' Utah doesn't
sit alone with 4.... OSU is at least one other team with as many all on the
9ers.... Guess we can see head to head whose alumni are better..."I guess we just saw. Congratulations to the RAVENS!
@edith"...u would still be in last place in the PAC
10.2....".Consider the results of the last 20 years...199334-31Utahprovo199434-31UtahSLC199534-17UtahSLC1996 byu 37–17 SLC 1997 Utah 20–14 provo 1998 byu 26–24 SLC 1999 Utah 20–17 provo 2000 byu 34–27 SLC 2001 byu 24–21 provo 2002 Utah 13–6 SLC 2003 Utah 3–0 provo 2004 Utah 52–21 SLC 2005 Utah 41–34OT provo 2006 byu 33–31 SLC 2007 byu 17–10 provo 2008 Utah 48–24 SLC 2009 byu 26–23OT provo 2010 Utah 17–16 SLC 2011 Utah 54–10 provo 2012 Utah 24–21 SLCUtah has beaten byu 8 times in the last
11 games.Consider the results of the last 105 games... Utah has an overall record of 56-34-4 against byu.Not bad for the
last place team in the Pac 10.2.Not good for the independent 1.3
kittens."...Remind me again why we play the game...".
What did Whit capitalize with yesterday's game??? I'm dying to know
the tangibles here for Ute greatness.
@nightowl"If anything BYU delivered a 'no show' in the
post season of 2012. Nobody, even national media, are not saying a thing about
them."That's interesting considering that Kyle van Noy was
widely discussed as having the best bowl performance in the country by a
defender. He was shown on just about every highlight show and named to every
single all bowl team. There were articles and segments and all kinds of other
national publicity about it.LOL!
@sammygWhat did Whit capitalize with yesterday's game???
I'm dying to know the tangibles here for Ute greatness.--------Um, maybe the fact that Paul Kruger had two of the three
sacks by the Ravens defense.
@motorbike"most experts had the 49ers as their Super Bowl
favorite at the time Smith was still starting."Uh....no they
didn't. SF was 6-2-1 while smith was starting and were actually being
talked about as a bit of a disappointment. Their offense had been very sporadic
with a mix of good games and then some games where they had barely scored
putting up only 13 against the vikings, 3 against the giants and 13 again
against the seahawks.When smith left the Rams game with a slight
concussion they were losing 14-7, after being down 14-0, and kaepernick brought
them back to earn a tie.Smith was getting some rave reviews, like
the following from the NFL's own site after the seattle game."Smith went 14-of-23 passing for 140 yards in another subpar
performance.""Another" subpar performance.smith's actual passing stats were pretty mediocre despite a high qb
rating. He was averaging barely over 1 td per game and only 170 passing yards
per game. The best thing that could be said about him was that he was
"efficient" most of the time.Hardly superbowl favorites.
Cougar fan here (and I knew his dad...) Whittingham is an exceptional coach
and once they get acclimated to the competition level and style of the PAC,
their fortunes will increase. It's a win-win for everyone in the state,
but for different reasons at each school. And, good for Utah as a state at
large to have had 5-6 players with connections show well in the game. Smith
will do fine at a new team too next year... take pride in the overall
achievements, belittlement just shows small mindedness so let it go...
Signing day is coming up.Right now for 2013 football recruiting:Rivals has: Utah:4 Stars:1 3 Stars: 23Provo's
school of Pharisees:4 Stars:1 3 Stars: 6
Duckhunter, that game against the Rams you mentioned, Smith was 7/8 passing with
1 TD/0 INT, he really couldn't have done much better with the situations he
was given in the game. He also averaged 9 yards per attempt to Kaep's 6.9.
And at 6-2 with wins at Green Bay and New York, yes they were considered one of
the playoff favorites with only the Bears and Falcons at 7-1 with as good of a
record. I won't discredit what Kaep did, as he came in and finished the
regular season similar to what Smith did, going 5-2 (1-2 in division), compared
to Smith's 6-2 (2-0 in division), and he had some great moments. He also
had some very awful moments, which Smith didn't have, though, so I
personally would take some great moments with low risk to some great moments
with high risk. Neither one is an elite QB, but both have proven to be valuable
members of elite teams.
@stgOther than Kaepenick's int, which on the replay we can
clearly see randy moss cutting off his route, standing there, and making no
effort at all to get in position to catch the ball, what were the "very
awful moments" he had "which smith didn't have"? Please
elaborate as no one else in the entire world knows what they were other than
you.Last playoff game I remember smith playing in he had 6 straight
possessions in the 2nd half in which he couldn't even muster 1 single 1st
down. Those were "awful" moments that no doubt harbuagh remembered
Smith is a capable, reliable quarterback. How he has handled the situation over
the last few months also shows that he is mature and a good teammate.Kaepernick, however, has more talent, and more upside than Smith. He is more
dangerous to any defense the 49ers face.I wish them both good luck
Pick-six against Green Bay, his entire game at St. Louis, his entire game at
Seattle, both of which contributed to them nearly losing the division, the first
35 minutes of the Super Bowl."Last playoff game I remember smith
playing in he had 6 straight possessions in the 2nd half in which he
couldn't even muster 1 single 1st down."First of all, there
were never six straight 3-and-outs in that game. There were only 5 3-and-outs by
the 49ers in the entire game. A little truth on your part, please.Also, the Giants had one of the most dominant postseason defenses in NFL
history. Considering the 49ers accomplished the same thing against them that
Green Bay and New England did, who each had some of the most prolific offenses
in NFL history, there's nothing to be ashamed of from that performance.
Frustrated? Sure, but awful? Only if you consider Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers