From the article Te'o says: "This girl, who I committed myself
As long as he lied only briefly...
OK, this should now close the door on this whole bizarre story. Please media,
let us now move away from this and start beating on the lies about fracking.
Ok, so Lance Armstrong lied about doping.Why is this different?
manti te'o and lance armstrong.........Separated at birth?????
Interesting how the liberal media has focused endlessly on this (non)story, as
opposed to their disinterest in the lies Hilary Clinton, etal told about the
Benghazi four dead American massacre.
Pagan wrote: "Ok, so Lance Armstrong lied about doping. Why is this
different?"Armstrong: Knowingly cheated repeatedly over
decades/cancer survivor abuses his body to win/ Does not admit to feeling shame/
made millions misleading and lying/Te'o: A victim of a
hoax/naive young man becomes emotionally attached to a woman he talks with over
the phone, texts and e-mails/ Comes clean and admits he was victim of hoax/
Embarrassed, feels shame/ has yet to make any money as an athleteDo
you see the difference?
"He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at [him]."
Briefly, "Manti lied!"
@Pagan, @Richard LarsonOh please. Lance Armstrong's lies
earned him several Tour de France titles, TONS of money and endorsements, fame,
and even an Olympic medal. Te'o's lies earned him a little extra
attention by the national media. No comparison.Not saying what he
did was right, but there's no comparison to Lance Armstrong. What did
Te'o have to gain from lying about having a girlfriend who died from
Hey, don't judge me because I sin different than you !
Give the kid a break!"Let he who is without sin cast the first
stone.""As ye judge, so shall ye be judged."
@PaganWhat Lance Armstrong lied about (taking PED's) is
illegal.What Manti Teo lied about (having a fake girlfriend) is not.
maybe he has a concussion from all the head banging in football.
Wow, the responses here would raise my pioneer grandparents to issue a
well-deserved lecture: You don't compare your wrong-doing to a greater
sinner. You confess and refuse to justify your wrong. Period."The dog ate my homework" is a lie; "I watched Letterman too
late" is an inexcusable but truthful excuse. "Yeah, but Ronda (my
cousin) has been copying my homework all month" didn't get me out of
hot water either. Both of my parents were teachers, and thank goodness we
learned early on that the same rules applied to everyone. When I was sent to
the principal in the 7th grade I didn't expect any special treatment. I
dreaded going home a lot more: my dad WAS that principal. Always kind, loving
and fair, I hated having let him down. Trust me- I never embarrassed our family
name again.Hillary never backed off blaming that "Right Wing
Conspiracy", Bill never apologized until caught. First time admissions are
always best for everyone concerned. Teach your kids the "right" and
there will be no shame in an honest confession.
It seems that a lot of those commenting have never told a fib to avoid
embarrassment when they find they've done something like this...That's
all this is, you know. He didn't gyp anyone out of money, or
get financial gain, or cause harm to anyone else by his actions. He was just
doing what many of us do: try to keep ourselves from embarrassment. If Manti were the kid down the block who got hoaxed, we'd just have a
good laugh and forget it; but many like to make themselves feel important by
judging those in the limelight.
Wow, if only I could get away with the analogy that's out on the blogs and
webworld about fake girlfriends and Lamanite DNA...Get grounded in
reality and truth, then your gray shades will get starkly black/white,
Lance's sins notwithstanding. Asking Katie, "What would you do?",
only compounded his naiveté into downright stupidity and compliance. But
hey- When your own father justifies your knowingly perpetuating the discover
sham, what's a poor lad to do?I mean, Hitler was a really bad
WWJSD? Joseph Smith would have told Manti to come clean, even if it took him 5
different versions and 20 years with no church publications mention.Perserverance is the key. Cut the little liar some slack! After all, he
hasn't duped the doping squad for years...
What are you drinking in Pocatello, combblai? Then our Lord told the woman to
"go and sin no more". (John 8:11)Religious folks know that
God accepts confessions: David was forgiven, although he suffered the
consequences his entire life. Saul's excuses did not bring him absolution;
God knew his heart.The actual commentary on their lying is that
Armstrong said he didn't feel guilty at the time, and ditto Te'o:
"What would you do, Katie?!"
So Joseph Smith denied practicing polygamy when he in fact was. According to
Church History, the Joseph Smith papers, and his friends at the Nauvoo
Expositor.How would he have answered Katie?
A lie is a lie, in France, Bakersfield or Pocatello, combblai."What would you do?"
Christ died for sinners, Lance, Te'o and all. But He never justified the
continuation of lying. He listed liars (unconfessed/unrepentant) as ending up
in eternal damnation along with others. (Revelation 22). I'd make sure I
knew the difference before leaving this life.You don't have to
agree, but you can't rewrite Christ's Words. Te'o needs to spend
more time in his Bible and less on Facebook anc Katie's chair.
@ OnlytheCrossI think people on this thread should spend less time
judging so that they are not judged with the same judgement with which they are
judging Te'o . . .
Wow! I can't believe how harsh people are towards Te'o. Having read about every story that has been published on this, it is apparent
to me that Te'o was not in on this hoax. Sure, he didn't
come forward and tell the media that he has an online/phone girlfriend whom he
had never met. (How many people would do that, though?)He also didn't
come forward just before the Heisman and tell the world that he had been tricked
and the girlfriend wasn't real. (Bringing on yourself public humiliation
takes a lot of courage.)When it comes to gullibility ask yourself
this:Have you ever forward on an email/message that promised you a
free IPad, a gift certificate, or money for forwarding a message to 5 of your
friends?When it comes to absolute complete honesty at all times:Do you have any mp3s that you didn't pay for? (Burned a
friend's CD, library CD, downloaded music online?)I'm not
justifying what Te'o did. I just understand what he did and why.We shouldn't be casting stones at this guy.
I only lied "briefly" misses the point that a lie is a lie is a lie and
the consequences can magnify, creating the need for still more lies. With
politicians a lie is never a lie, but called spin or some other sanitized term.
I am beginning to understand after reading some of the posts here.It is OK
to briefly speed and the trooper should let you off the hook.Sort of like
briefly breaking immigration laws or briefly using a fake ID to get work.We should wink and nod at such things. And we are not really responsible for
these brief lapses in integrity.This kinder, gentler Mormonism is a
departure from the Gospel of high standards that I was drawn to thirty years
SS, we are all judged by the same standard- Christ's perfection. Only His
sacrifice gets you a pardon with your adoption papers.
Okay all you pious geniuses and religion bashers, what exactly should Manti have
Here is the wrapupTe'o was duped. Regardless of how naive one
may think he is, he was taken in hook, line and sinker.It was not
until Dec 6 that he became complicit. Had he told the truth beginning on Dec 6
he would have been totally in the clear (naive, but in the clear)He
decided to lie. But, one can understand a bit as to why he did it. Probably
embarrassment mostly. Not an excuse, but understandable.Give the
kid a break. He has been punished, I assure you.Time to move along.
MHCF: If Manti is a follower of Jesus, he should have told the truth upon his
learning of the deception. If he's not a covenant-bound person, no one can
make that judgment....But the media, social and ethical, can add
dishonest to naive in his public resumé. Then the sports endorsement gods
will make their financial decisions, sans any Papal bull or SLC reprimand.See how easy black and white is?
Manti lied but at least it wasn't about sex, and it didn't involve
How is this different than Armstrong lying? Well, Armstrong knowingly lied
about something that gave him a physical advantage over his competitors. Teo
lied about something from his personal life that he had believed to be true for
months and suddenly found out was a hoax. Of course its not ok to lie ever but
that doesn't make every situtation the exact same. And I'm sorry but
I sincerely doubt that any of you critics haven't ever told a worse lie in
Pagan - I agree with you....A lie is a lie, whether it is a
momentary slip or a multi-year deception. The difference is not in
the action, but in the response of the person. Someone who openly admita their
mistake, is contrite and humble, and works hard to not commit the wrong again is
in a much better position than someone who admits only after being caught.
Also, feeling bad because one committed the wrong-doing is better than only
being sorry for getting caught. There is danger in minimizing the
action for these reasons, but there is every reason to commend someone who takes
accountability, reconciles with those he or she wronged, and works to repair the
damaged that was caused. This is a rare evetn in today's world....
Honestly, I don't understand why this is such a big story. It's weird,
sure, but he was lying about having a girlfriend!? What guy hasn't bent the
truth when it comes to the ladies?