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Utah Utes football: Aaron Roderick explains decision to return to Utes' staff

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  • Mike D ALPINE, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 12:20 p.m.

    Is this a surprise? He did the same thing with Washington and Coach Sarkisian a few years back.

  • Mark3054 Lehi, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 12:29 p.m.

    Indecisiveness is a great quality in a good coach...NOT!! I can see someone doing this once....maybe. But twice? He better hope that Coach Whit stays on for a very long tenure and that ARod does not overstay his welcome or that Kyle will take him elsewhere if and when he leaves. I think Aaron has forever shut the door on any other offers with another quality program. No coach is going to go out on a limb and offer him a job again. Very foolish move!!! And that is an understatement.

  • rafinsure Elk Grove/U.S.A., 00
    Jan. 17, 2013 12:29 p.m.

    Roderick is hilarious. I'm dumbfounded. He has no decision making skills. Maybe that's why he wasn't offered the offensive coordinator position at Utah after Chow announced his departure. First, he does it to Washington and now BYU. He's scarred himself for life in trying to get a better position or a literal move to another institution. Coaches all over the place must be rolling their eyes. The Utes can keep him. The Cougars need more leaders with good decision making skills, not someone who is constantly going to go back on his word. It's better to know what he's like now before preparations for next season really get into high gear.

  • PGVikingDad Pleasant Grove, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 12:30 p.m.

    This is exactly how I reacted when my employer tendered an attractive counteroffer when a competitor made their move. Good for him, and best of luck. And Go, Cougars!

  • Runner Chandler, AZ
    Jan. 17, 2013 12:32 p.m.

    Classic love/hate relationship.
    Whitingham and the Utes continue to dis-respect him and he continues to ask for more.
    Sad.

    At least Johnson will have somebody to save him once again.

  • UtahBruin Saratoga Springs, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 12:32 p.m.

    These quotes are the biggest farce ever. He is a great recruiter and Witt didn't want to lose that to BYU so he threw more money and maybe more opportunity at him. Why doesn't everyone quit lying and start telling the truth. It is all find and dandy if he wants to stay, just say what really happened. You don't accept a job like this without thinking about it, praying about it and talking to family. He accepted the job at the Y because it provided him more, then the U came back with more and so he is staying. Neither of you have anyone fooled with your fake statements Witt and Roderick. Truth please, just once.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 12:33 p.m.

    Got to love being in a BCS conference, with BCS money, BCS athletes, and BCS quality coaches!

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 12:35 p.m.

    Well it appears BYU has dodged a bullet. Based on utah's offensive performance and the wr's performance up there the last few years I really don't think BYU was getting much in hiring him.

  • Who am I sir? Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 12:34 p.m.

    Our loss is BYU's loss is our gain!

  • Tilka PORTLAND, OR
    Jan. 17, 2013 12:37 p.m.

    Next time it will be with Wisconsin. Good way to jack up your salary dude!

  • Max Charlotte, NC
    Jan. 17, 2013 12:39 p.m.

    No doubt that Whittingham increased his pay to stay.

  • utahcountyute Cedar Hills, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 12:39 p.m.

    Glad that in the end, A Rod realizes what he's got.

    Go Utes!

  • RBN Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 12:45 p.m.

    @Mark3054

    How can it be an understatement when you used three exclamation points?

    You don't think Aaron got a raise between yesterday and today? I disagree that no one will ever offer Aaron a job again. Coaches know that money talks. They understand that other coaches are looking out for themselves financially. If Aaron deserves an offer from another school, he'll get one.

    I've wondered why Whit was so quiet after the announcement yesterday. Today's story tells us why.

  • Wookie Omaha, NE
    Jan. 17, 2013 12:45 p.m.

    Who is up for a serving of humble pie? I found the posts of ARod leaving to leave the U and join the Y funny. Now what will people say...?

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Jan. 17, 2013 12:50 p.m.

    Not to mention that at this point, all the Utes who panned him because of all the dropped passes will now see this as some cosmic sign of miraculous things to come.

    In fairness, all the cougs who proclaimed this as one more evidence that the ship on the hill is taking on water, will somehow contort to say, "we didn't want him anyway."

  • Cougar Claws Lindon, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 12:51 p.m.

    Why? Clearly he wasn't happy with where he was at. The only reason he should have gone back at all is if they fired Brian Johnson and give him the OC job. Outside of that I don't see how this makes any sense.

  • Al Vernal, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 12:53 p.m.

    K.W. must have gone begging and promised him something... like the OC. It wouldn't surprise me, B.J. did about as good a job as B.D. at BYU (almost). Maybe A.R. was just using BYU to get a better deal from K.W. and the U of U. No, that would be disingenuous from "a man of faith" as B.M. put it. Look for A.R. to be the OC at the U of U next year.

  • Wookie Omaha, NE
    Jan. 17, 2013 12:55 p.m.

    Thank you Duckhunter for your insightful comments.

  • Y's little brother Sandy, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 12:56 p.m.

    Chris B

    "You can have Roderick. We dont care."

    Brave Sir Robin

    "Meh, you can have him. Utah's receivers took a major step back while on his watch."

    StGtoSLC

    "ARod was never one of my favorite coaches."

    54-IQ

    "He did a good job recruiting for Utah and did not do as good of a job as a wide receivers coach. Utah's wide receivers have been average at best and drops were a huge problem."

  • Dave S Holladay, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 1:01 p.m.

    Gotta love the first couple of comments that just yesterday were praising Roderick and welcoming him to byu. Give him credit for following his heart and realizing he wants to beat byu one more year before the break. Can't blame him for wanting to remain in the conference of champions and not the conference of obscurity.

  • anti BCS Anaheim, CA
    Jan. 17, 2013 1:01 p.m.

    Who am I sir?

    Or as Duckhunter stated (and as has been corroborated by many of the kids on the hill)...

    Our gain is your loss!

    Looking forward to more drops and receivers running the wrong routes.

  • 1232 Ogden, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 1:02 p.m.

    Should we pass or should we run? Do we punt or do we go for it? Should I play him or should I play someone else? Should I eat this or eat that?

  • 54-10 Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 1:08 p.m.

    Welcome back Coach. Still a good recruiter but the receivers were average at best. Whether that's because of the lack of a quarterback, lack of WR talent or the coaching, we'll see.

    At BYU, was the offensive problems really due to Cahoon and so he needed to go, or was it due to a lack of a quarterback? We'll see.

  • Mark3054 Lehi, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 1:09 p.m.

    @ UtahBruin

    Obviously, Kyle saw value in him and made him a better offer. However, offer/counteroffer politics should be done BEFORE he goes public with a decision. That is the gaffe that is being discussed. That is the poor decision making that is in question. If you believe that another quality coach and program are going to stick their neck out for him again, you need to take off your crimson colored glasses. It would be different if this were an everyday occurrence. But, it isn't. Also, this isn't remotely similar to doing the same thing with an employer where no one but you and the prospective employer know what happened. This was a public blunder of enormous magnitude for a coach. I like ARod and hope he has a long career with Utah and/or Coach Whit. He will not have another opportunity to land an equal position elsewhere and that is a fact.

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 1:10 p.m.

    Hilarious. Maybe Coach Wit bought him a house with his millions.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 1:10 p.m.

    @wookie

    Don't mention it. here's my comment from the aeticle yesterday announcing he was taking a job at BYU.

    "I actually have to agree with 54-10, utah's wr's have been pretty bad the last several years and Roderick was thier coach. I hope he is capable of doing a better job at BYU."

    Then this one this morning.

    "That said I think Cahoon has done a pretty good job with the wr's whereas A-Rod has not turned out much at utah."

    In otherwords wookie I'm pretty happy about this.

  • AZ Blue & Red Gilbert, AZ
    Jan. 17, 2013 1:12 p.m.

    Tell me when the music stops. I feel like someone is playing musical chairs.

    Best to both teams and coaches. Whoever they are.

  • Mt Rushmore Arlington, VA
    Jan. 17, 2013 1:12 p.m.

    Did Kyle really offer A-Rod the OC if BJ falls on his face again? Kyle offered A-Rod a bigger pile of cash and a bunch of pie-crust promises and Aaron sadly bought it. Don't understand why Aaron decided to stay in an abusive relationship, but he's created his own mess, and now he'll have to deal with it.

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    Jan. 17, 2013 1:14 p.m.

    Y's little brother

    shush, the kids on the hill are busy backpeddling.

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    Jan. 17, 2013 1:19 p.m.

    Dave S

    Gotta love the hypocrisy of Utah fans welcoming Roderick back with open arms and calling out BYU fans for singing his praises, after Utah fans spent the last 24 hours trashing Roderick.

  • Real Bass Idaho Falls, ID
    Jan. 17, 2013 1:28 p.m.

    Yesterday he was a dog, today he's utahs dog again!

  • Derek_ Sandy, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 1:29 p.m.

    *golf clap* Y's Little Brother.

    You copy pasted Ute fans posts, none of them however have gone back to say "Yay, we kept him!"

    Chris B. trollin you as usual.

    Unlike all of the BYU fans now judging his character and that he will never get a job anywhere else, and bla bla bla. A lot of you had very different comments in the other thread saying hes leaving a sinking ship to go to a better program. Now you say "Oh, pffft!" "We don't want him any way!"

    Please.

  • There You Go Again Saint George, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 1:48 p.m.

    @AZ Blue & Red

    I might have written "whomever" instead of "whoever"...

    However, your comment is by far the best one of the bunch!

    Thank You!

  • RBN Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 1:49 p.m.

    A-Rod was just toying with you Cougar fans. Mission accomplished.

  • UtahBruin Saratoga Springs, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 1:51 p.m.

    @Mark3504

    I am not quite sure you even read my statement while calling me out. Crimson colored glasses? I am not even a Utah fan, can't stand the "U" because of it's fans, like ChrisB. Thanks though for re-wording my post, I said exactly the same thing you did. I am not even a "Y" fan either so if you were drinking your blue Kool-Aid while posting, I can understand the mishap. Maybe.

    @ChrisB

    "BCS Conference, Money, Athletes, etc."

    Conference - Yes

    Money - Yes

    Athletes - No not really, you get the second class PAC-10 athletes. Yes I said PAC-10, Utah and Colorado still don't count and never will.

    U and Colorado are nothing more than a red headed step child for the PAC-10. See your school color fits. U will never be more than Washington State or Colorado in the PAC-10, you will never steal recruits from USC, UCLA, Stanford, CAL, Oregon, Washington, Arizona, Arizona State or even Oregon State. Football, Baseball, Basketball, even Red Rock Gymnastics will never win anything in the PAC-10. Flat out U are not good enough and never will be.

  • Zoniezoobie Mesa, AZ
    Jan. 17, 2013 1:51 p.m.

    If A-Rod can flip-flop, why can't BYU bring back Cahoon, the all-time professional receiver with the most catches in the history of earth! Hopefully, he hasn't signed on with da Bears yet..

  • armchairQBonthehill Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 1:56 p.m.

    I guess his "online girlfriend" or "avatar" who used to live in Seattle near U Dub (remember, she's the one who had something tragically happen to her a couple of years ago) has moved to Orem. So now this has caused A-Rod to re-think his plans again so he won't be transferring to the school down south. Anybody checked the horoscopes . . .its a weird day in college football, to say the least.

  • maxiute Cedar Hills, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 2:02 p.m.

    I find the comments suggesting somehow that a "receivers coach," or any coach for that matter is somehow responsible for a receiver dropping balls or etc. to be too funny and very naive. The coaches can only give players a chance to succeed. As for Ute receivers dropping balls last year...I don't believe they dropped any more than the receivers at the Y. Granted, while BJ needs a lot of growth as OC, Utah's lack of offensive productivity was more on their poor offensive line play than anything else.

  • Bluesmack south jordan, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 2:05 p.m.

    Aaron Roderick?......Who Dat?

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Jan. 17, 2013 2:09 p.m.

    Uteanymous

    Gotta love the hypocrisy of Utah fans welcoming Roderick back with open arms and calling out BYU fans for singing his praises, after Utah fans spent the last 24 hours trashing Roderick.

    -------------

    Unlike Anae, ARod never left. You just had an "imaginary" new coach.

    ARod was passed over for the OC job for a reason, but that doesn't imply he can't coach at another position or recruit.

  • DeepBlue Anaheim, CA
    Jan. 17, 2013 2:12 p.m.

    Derek_

    "You copy pasted Ute fans posts, none of them however have gone back to say "Yay, we kept him!"

    No need to. We all know that every Utah fan who trashed Roderick in the last day, will soon be making wild predictions about how much improved Utah's offense is going to be next season.

    Of course, if the Utes suffer a repeat performance or two of last season, Whittingham and his entire staff could be leaving in the near future.

  • DeepBlue Anaheim, CA
    Jan. 17, 2013 2:17 p.m.

    RBN

    "A-Rod was just toying with you Cougar fans."

    Did you ever consider that if A-Rod is as bad a receivers coach as some Utah fans were saying, that A-Rod might be toying with U? At the very least, A-Rod got a hefty raise and a bunch of empty promises from Whittingham.

  • xxJazzAddict05xx heber, ut
    Jan. 17, 2013 2:21 p.m.

    I guess he enjoys getting dumped on by the Utes. He becomes the OC and then is dropped back when Norm comes. When Norm leaves he gets skipped over by an inexperienced Brian Johnson. Whittingham treats him so well, why would he ever consider leaving???

  • shorts Payson, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 2:22 p.m.

    Funny when A-Rod was going to BYU. BYU fans loved him and Utah fans said it was no loss. Now Byu fans are saying they dodged a bullet ect.... and Utah fans are saying what a great coach that got back. lol As for me I wish BYU had him and I hope he does well where ever.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Jan. 17, 2013 2:26 p.m.

    @Chris B - "Got to love being in a BCS conference, with BCS money, BCS athletes, and BCS quality coaches!"

    You forgot something . . . "U got to love finishing 2nd to last in football (South), last in basketball (men's and women's), and last in baseball."

    Wow, it must be great to be a Ute.

  • LindonMan Lindon, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 2:29 p.m.

    Christy B

    Yeah that BCS conference thing is going really well for Basketball too right? (crickets)

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 2:40 p.m.

    You all need to know how seriously Utah takes losing "Anything" to BYU.
    This is all they have.
    As Bottomfeeders of the Pac, it is all they will ever have.

    It's happened many times, when Utah's pride is bruised, Spencer Eccles writes a check.

    The U has so long lived in the shadow of BYU and are so insecure, that they'll break the bank for a 2nd rate assistant coach.

    Utah pays all their coaches (all programs) 8+ million dollars a year.
    BYU pays their coaches only 4+ million a year.

    Roderick was making 200k a year as a position coach....Position Coach!

    It's easy to see why Utah's athletic program operates at a loss while BYU's does not.
    He got a salary boost to be sure.

    This followed the same scenario as when Whitt committed to BYU then Eccles came in to save the bruised egos.

    If you've never been to the U's campus, Eccles name is on about 15 buildings.
    From a bridge to a fieldhouse to tennis courts to the stadium, I've never seen anything like it.

    Eccles pulls out all stops...even for a 2nd rate Assistant Caoch.

    Absolutely Hilariuous!

  • DeepBlue Anaheim, CA
    Jan. 17, 2013 2:42 p.m.

    Uteology

    "Unlike Anae, ARod never left."

    Who are you kidding?

    He accepted a job offer at another university and even made statements to the press to confirm his acceptance. Just like Boise State and SDSU accepted conference membership offers from the Big East. Boise State paid a hefty exit fee for "leaving" the Big East. SDSU was just accepted "back" to the MWC by a majority vote of the MWC schools. Yet both schools are still competing in the MWC. The brevity of time between A-Rod's departure from and return to Utah is inconsequential and doesn't change the fact that A-Rod left Utah.

    The bigger problem A-Rod created for himself is after reneging on two schools, it's highly unlikely that a third school would even consider risking being fooled again.

    Fool me once, shame on U. Fool me twice, shame on me.

    A-Rod has certainly burned his bridges with Washington and BYU.

    Not a smart move to burn your bridges in coaching profession. That can come back to haunt you.

    See John L. Smith.

  • DeepBlue Anaheim, CA
    Jan. 17, 2013 2:48 p.m.

    CougFaninTX, LindonMan

    Don't bother christy and her friends with trivial things like winning. As long as they're collecting gobs of money, they're content.

    It would be interesting to see how much of a share of the loot christy gets.

  • Cool Cat Cosmo Payson, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 3:14 p.m.

    No matter where he ends up, his indecisiveness is certainly something that has been hi-lighted by this fiasco. Best of luck to him, but he's certainly burning bridges, on both sides...

  • Stgeorgebyu St. Georg, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 3:17 p.m.

    Its fine if he want to stay, its his life, but Ute Bruin, you do not know what happened either, so don't act like you do. @ Christina B; it has to kill you to know that Utes go to BYU players and coaches to get the job done. Its where the foundation to excellence is started and the Utes want some of it.

  • phoenix Gilbert, AZ
    Jan. 17, 2013 3:21 p.m.

    Utah welcomes its newest coach to Salt Lake City.

    In other news:

    Utah announces a slight increase in student fees to help pay for needed improvements in Utah's football program.

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 3:26 p.m.

    According to a previous post from Chris B, it must be because he didn't want to shave his face. He just used a promotion of sorts and more money in the pay envelope and the wailing of players that didn't want to adjust to a new coacjh as excuses to stay with U.

  • pacificblue55 SANDY, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 3:29 p.m.

    He's thinking that with the sorry state of the Utes football program lately, he'll be considered a replacement for Wittingham after one more sorry season.

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 3:56 p.m.

    Translation of reason Roderick gave for staying at Utah: "Utah offerred more $'s than BYU was willing to pay."

  • sls Columbia, MO
    Jan. 17, 2013 4:06 p.m.

    Bad track record to do this same stunt twice. Sarkisian wouldn't give him another chance after Roderick did this same thing to Washington, nor would anyone at BYU. I can't think of a lot of head coaches elsewhere who would even consider someone with this type of history.

    It says something about the character of the coaches at Utah that they will accept other offers, go public with the acceptance, and only then realize how much being a Ute really means to them. Do you have to be reconverted twice?

  • MidMajor4ever Syracuse, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 4:09 p.m.

    I can understand the emotional ties an ex-player/coach has with his alma mater.

    Bottom line: Utah plays in a major conference with better players and more money. The only time a position coach from a BCS conference should consider a move to a mid-major program is to be a Head Coach, OC or DC. Don't lose sight of the fact that byu is a mid-major program.

    I'm sure that Roderick will have opportunities in the future. He certainly made the best decision to stay at the U.

  • USAlover Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 4:08 p.m.

    Are we really having a conversation of Erin Roderick?

  • Res Novae Ashburn, VA
    Jan. 17, 2013 4:13 p.m.

    I know Utah had problems with "false starts" this season, but this one takes the cake!

  • CougarBlue Heber City, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 4:23 p.m.

    Ah, coaches are a fickled bunch.

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 4:37 p.m.

    @MidMajorUte

    -Again, the BCS is dead.
    -Utah rides others Coat-tails for relevancy.
    -Utah is settling in nicely as the Pac Bottomfeeder...All Sports and Academically.

    And, Utah is not even a mid-major within their own conference.

    Please let us know when Utah wins a Conference Championship, in any sport.

  • Jim1027 St. George, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 4:41 p.m.

    We don't need a guy that can't make a commitment. Let him stay with the Utes and win zero games in Pac12 next year.

  • Mount Olympus Salt Lake, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 4:48 p.m.

    Re: Bluto

    Let me know when BYU wins their next conference championship in football.

  • ATiredDude Sandy, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 4:53 p.m.

    Through it all, a single fact remains. A guy is given a choice, and after a small struggle, he still makes the right choice--a better choice.

    Love it.

  • phoenix Gilbert, AZ
    Jan. 17, 2013 5:06 p.m.

    Mount Olympus

    "Let me know when BYU wins their next conference championship in football."

    It's a good bet that BYU will win more than one conference championship in football before Utah wins their next.

    It could be decades before a conference bottom dweller, that's only won about one conference championship a decade during their WAC/MWC era, wins their first PAC 10.2 championship.

  • Jim1027 St. George, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 5:18 p.m.

    A person is no better than their word. At the U, keep your word is optional. Consider the following:

    Urbay Meyer - Happy at Utah and was staying around. Then left for Florida.
    Kyle Whittingham - Committed to BYU and changed his mind.
    Aaron Roderick - Changed his mind at Washington and BYU.
    Gary Andersen - Very happy at Utah State and then suddenly Wisconsin offered more.

    Enough said!

    If their lips are moving, they are lying!

  • Wookie Omaha, NE
    Jan. 17, 2013 5:25 p.m.

    @ Duckhunter...

    Can we be Ute/BYU DNews Message Board friends?

  • itsajelly Walla Walla, WA
    Jan. 17, 2013 5:56 p.m.

    Playin the Utes for a little more $$$$$$.

  • ekute Layton, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 6:07 p.m.

    Silly jealous cougar fans. Pac12,Rose bowl,BCS,Pac12 money! Go Utes!

  • Old ball coach Sandy, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 6:11 p.m.

    Oh brother.....I enjoyed the rivalry ....but this is hilarious!

  • Bleed Crimson Sandy, Utah
    Jan. 17, 2013 6:37 p.m.

    @ Runner

    "Classic love/hate relationship.
    Whitingham and the Utes continue to dis-respect him and he continues to ask for more.
    Sad".

    What about Bronco? There is a classic love/hate relationship between him and Anae. Bronco pretty much told Anae to resign and look for another job after the Utah LOSS in 2010. Also the BYU fans wanted his head after that loss due to "bad play calling". Now rehiring Anae, he's just asking for more. That's sad!

  • Down under Pullman, WA
    Jan. 17, 2013 6:53 p.m.

    You Utah fans crack me up. First you are happy to see him go and now you are happy to have him back. I guess when you have had a roller coaster few years as a Utah fan you take what scraps you can get. LOL

  • IA Cougar West Des Moines, IA
    Jan. 17, 2013 7:18 p.m.

    Correction...this USED TO BE a heated rivalry. Now it's just another game. Who cares. I want decisiveness. This isn't it. I wish Utah well, after all, the coaching staff was trained in Provo. But obviously, the programs are heading in their own quests for success. Good for them. This is no big deal.

  • AFCoug Colorado Springs, CO
    Jan. 17, 2013 7:19 p.m.

    What is not mentioned is the pay bump the U likely gave him. All for the players! Not likely.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 7:30 p.m.

    @wookie

    I thought we already were?

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    Jan. 17, 2013 8:35 p.m.

    ekute

    "Pac12,Rose bowl,BCS,Pac12 money!"

    U can forget Rose Bowls and BCS access games. It could be years before the Utes even beat a PAC 10.2 team with a winning record. Anybody can provide a warm body to give a conference the necessary 12 teams to hold a championship.

  • Wookie Omaha, NE
    Jan. 17, 2013 8:35 p.m.

    Friends it is then :)

  • Riddles in the Dark Olympus Cove, Utah
    Jan. 17, 2013 8:45 p.m.

    MidMajor4ever

    Don't lose sight of the fact that Utah is a mid-major program masquerading as a big boy.

    Being a whipping boy for the real big boys of the conference, doesn't make U special, it simply makes you a leech, feeding off of the accomplishments of other programs because you have no accomplishments of your own.

    There was a time when the Utes took pride in their own banners and flags. Now all we hear and see are PAC 12 banners and flags.

    Pathetic!

  • Ben H Clearfield, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 8:59 p.m.

    Utah is a more prestigious institution. However, another 5-7 season, coach Witt won't be at the U any longer. Neither will Roderick. And now that he has turned town 3 other FBS programs, including his alma mater, the best that A-Rod may get is joining John L. Smith at Ft. Whatchumccallit State in Oregon.

    Loyalty does not pay the bills.

    BYU is better off without him.

  • WACPaddingOurSchedule pocatello, ID
    Jan. 17, 2013 9:05 p.m.

    ThomasJefferson
    WELLSVILLE, UT
    It's really pretty simple! Mediocrity in the PAC 12 or excellence at BYU as an Indy. Some people as Jack said, "can't handle the pressure." After only one day of being in an environment of excellence, he retreated to the U1

    ___________________

    BYU lost to Utah again.
    6-10 all time against San Jose St. Lost to them on national TV this past season.
    The USU bowl game got a higher TV rating than the Poinsettia Bowl.
    BYU was 7-5 this past season.

    Environment of excellence indeed. LOL!!!

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 9:43 p.m.

    @Mt. Olympus

    BYU has been there and done that.
    23 Conference Championships, that is.
    Utah has not.

    Sorry lads, Utah is as irrelevant as they come, all sports and academically.

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    Jan. 17, 2013 9:46 p.m.

    WACpaddled

    "6-10 all time against San Jose St. Lost to them on national TV this past season."

    LOL at your pathetic attempts to minimize BYU.

    San Jose State was a Top 25 team, while you're pathetic Utes didn't qualify for a bowl and got lucky on a fluke scoop and score to beat BYU.

    BYU was 8-5, beat Top 25 Utah State, and finished #26 in the final Sagarin ratings.
    Utah was 5-7 this season and finished #61 in the final Sagarin ratings.

    Utah's record since joining the PAC 10.2: 13-12
    BYU's record since going Independent: 18-8

    And don't whine about it being all based on schedule. Utah couldn't even beat Colorado last nor Utah State this year.

  • Max Charlotte, NC
    Jan. 17, 2013 9:55 p.m.

    Clearly, he is a very good coach with Washington, BYU, Wisconsin, Hawaii, and Utah all wanting him. Sure, leaving a good job in a place you like would be tough. The fact that he has found it tough to do so doesn't mean he is not a good coach. With all of those schools wanting him, well, that speaks for itself. It is hilarious reading how BYU fans didn't really want him anyway. Grow up everybody.

  • Mark D LAS VEGAS, NV
    Jan. 17, 2013 10:00 p.m.

    @ Chris B:

    "Got to love being in a BCS conference, with BCS money, BCS athletes, and BCS quality coaches!"

    Really?

    As an ASU Alum, I can appreciate UtahBruin's perspective (as a Pac-10 Alum - I'm giving credit for a UCLA degree here, so if not, my bad...) that Utah has not earned credit in the PAC and doesn't look to in the near future. It's a bit different now that the U has what it wanted - a seat at the BCS table, as it were. Looks more and more like the U has been relegated to the "child's table" at the BCS party...

    Utah Fans, lay off the rhetoric (at least until you're relevant in the PAC) and focus on becoming competitive in the PAC. There's very little "street cred" in your words until you prove that you belong in the PAC discussion. Start winning games and contend for a PAC South title, and then you can beat your chest and throw around the "BCS" smack.

    I'd like to see the U become more relevant in the PAC - but until it does, enough with the BCS talk - it just makes you look pathetic...

  • wer South Jordan, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 10:15 p.m.

    This is all so familiar. Remember when Whit was the first choice of BYU to coach the Cougars and he shook hands on the deal only to renege before a contract was signed.

    Birds of feather.

    Good that he got his mind right before he actually went to work.

  • 54-10 Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 10:29 p.m.

    @wer

    Cry me a river.

  • mr. j Cottonwood Hts., Ut
    Jan. 17, 2013 10:45 p.m.

    ummmm....3inarow
    that is all.

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 10:50 p.m.

    Derek_, my sentiments exactly! Roderick is a nice guy, so I won't stoop to the level of the bitter here in any personal criticisms. But as a coach, he's still very average, and decent (I think currently 4th or 5th best on the staff) as a recruiter. I'm happy for his being happy to stay, and say may round three be more successful in coaching, coordinating and player development than the previous two.

  • Wayne Rout El Paso, TX
    Jan. 17, 2013 11:06 p.m.

    So do we believe what he said today or what he said yesterday?

  • OCoug Ogden, UT
    Jan. 18, 2013 12:43 a.m.

    Hmmm, interesting. Really, if his heart is at the U, then stay there. Similar to recruiting, it seems that many schools increase their interest in players/coaches proportional to their rival.

  • JMT Springville, UT
    Jan. 18, 2013 6:54 a.m.

    Having hired a couple hundred people in my life this is a sign of character and BYU is just fine not having him. I have had this happen and it is pretty low class. I will never know though strongly suspect this was all about negotiating a better salary. About five years ago, the last time this happened to me, the "former" employee called up and thanked in for the job, yada, yada, yada then acknowledged that he got a payraise and this offer helped him with that payraise.

    The problem with this, on my side of the ledger, I had gone through a several month process, narrowed it down to a handful of highly qualified candidates, did interviews then finally made the choice. In making that choice I place a couple other highly qualified candidates on the backburner. Do you think these other candidates were happy to suspect they were second choice? Nope, and the process of hiring starts over again.

    What this young man did was very immature. In any case, his abilities as a coach aside, I've seen this before and have a very low opinion of the matter. He harms others for his own benefit.

  • phoenix Gilbert, AZ
    Jan. 18, 2013 7:55 a.m.

    mr. j

    ummmm....finishing behind BYU 5 of the 8 years during the Bronco/Kyle era in record and ranking
    that is what it's all about.

  • COUGARNATE Lyman, WY
    Jan. 18, 2013 8:19 a.m.

    So he changed his mind again. He just needs to stay at Utah, until they fire Whitingham, which is coming, because they will not have anymore winning seasons at Utah with him. This team last year was supposed to be a contender and look what happened. As for these comments about wanting to be in the conference of champions, when was the last time a Pac 12 school won the national title? USC a long time ago, and that championship was vacated. so I guess you Utes fans can say conference of champions all you want, but the championships the PAC 12 wins are in sports the Utes are either really bad at or do not even have. And about BYU being in obscurity, how about being on National tv in all but two games, which a lot more than Utah is on National tv. I am actually more disappointed about Cahoon being let go than I am of Roderick changing his mind again.

  • Y's Guy Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 18, 2013 8:32 a.m.

    Word on the street is that in reality it was an imaginary offer, and Roderick was simply the victim of a prank.

  • BYUCOLORADO Castle Rock, CO
    Jan. 18, 2013 8:39 a.m.

    "There were some positives but ultimately I just really believed in our program. I believe in coach (Kyle) Whittingham and what we're doing in the Pac-12."

    For the record, what they are doing is losing.

    He may be excited about where they are going in the future, but what they are doing now is losing. That said, BYU isn't doing any better. Neither teams has much to be excited about if they want to be a top program. Both programs are good at being decent, but not good enough.

    And I say this as a BYU fan.

  • srh83 Hillsboro, OR
    Jan. 18, 2013 9:18 a.m.

    I'm fine with him staying at the U. What bothers me is that he interviewed for the BYU job, accepted it, BYU coaches told other applicants/interviewees that they were not hired. The announcement was made that Roderick was coming to BYU, then he decided to stay at the U. I had the opportunity to do that for a job, but chose not to accept the offer because it wasn't fair to other applicants. That's the right thing to do. Make up your mind before you say yes to an offer.

  • Cats Somewhere in Time, UT
    Jan. 18, 2013 9:25 a.m.

    Wow, it's great to see this guy is really solid and has great decision-making skills. I'd rely on his word for anything.......NOT!

  • U-tah WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    Jan. 18, 2013 9:58 a.m.

    It is time to give him the OC job. Whit needs to make some moves here. Being a avid Utah fan, I have alot of respect for Bronco and his ability to make changes when they are needed not when it is to late. Get on board Whit, Johnson is not going to take us to the Rose Bowl.

  • Dave S Holladay, UT
    Jan. 18, 2013 10:02 a.m.

    Re: Bluto

    I'll take our irrelevance as you call it and winning 8 of the last 11 vs. your been there and done that team as well as two unefeated seasons and BCS wins in the past 10. Doesn't sound much like irrelevance to me!!

  • BlueNtheFace Rancho Cucamonga, CA
    Jan. 18, 2013 10:25 a.m.

    Good luck, Aaron. You're a Utah lifer now, IMO. Kyle could have done the right thing and mentored you about burning bridges (best case) and commmitting coaching suicide (worst case). Whittingham looks out for the interests of only one person in this situation, unfortunately.

    Imagine the embarrassment of possibly losing a coach to the lowly Cougars. He must have lost at least one night of sleep. Definitely a lil' brother attitude of at the U.

    Keep your eye on the Y.

    Go BYU!

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    Jan. 18, 2013 10:35 a.m.

    Dave S

    Can you cite one significant Utah accomplishment since 2008?

    The truth is, Utah football has been in steady decline since the Sugar Bowl and the Utes haven't done anything of note since joining the PAC 10.2.

    2008 13-0 #2/#4
    2009 10-3 #18/#18
    2010 10-3 ur/#23
    2011 8-5 unranked
    2012 5-7 no bowl

    The trend is obvious, even if our crimson-glasses wearing friends on the hill are too blind to see it.

    After your two brief shining moments in the national spotlight (2004 and 2008), Utah is quickly fading back into irrelevance on the national stage, in fact, Utah isn't even relevant in their own conference.

  • Whoa Nellie American Fork, UT
    Jan. 18, 2013 10:42 a.m.

    Whatever! Changing one's mind is fine but in such a high profile profession this is an example of what not to do. Usually money makes a decision easier or changes our mind, but this episode and the explanations given in the article sounds like a case of indecision going on for several years. Good luck with whatever you decide Mr. Roderick. Career choices based on the feelings and emotions of other people are usually poor choices.

  • 3grandslams Iowa City, IA
    Jan. 18, 2013 10:43 a.m.

    Obviously Roderick didn't read ute fan commnets in the des news. Now after a day of "Meh" and "he's not that good", he's suddenly a BCS coach.

    Sorry ute fans, proof of your hypocrisy is in the postings.

  • Dave S Holladay, UT
    Jan. 18, 2013 11:00 a.m.

    Re: Sportsfan

    Jealousy is a terrible thing. Enjoy life in your plastic Utah County bubble.

  • AZguy Phoenix, AZ
    Jan. 18, 2013 11:05 a.m.

    With all of the stories about Lance Armstrong and Manti Teo, it is hard to take someone for their word.

    I was excited to see him come back to BYU. That said, I don't know much about Cahoon or the job he did and why his contract was not renewed. I thought the experience of A-Rod would be a good thing for BYU. Overall, I thought,

    1-The guy can't make a decision which is an indication that he may never move up;
    2-He was offered more cash to stay at the U;
    3-or as it was said, it just did not feel right. I am ok with that, but why did he say yes to BYU in the first place. It just makes him look indecisive (refer to No. 1).

    As far as new coaches go, I am rooting for Lance Armstrong who is an LB coach and admissions liason at Stanford. He was the de-facto recruiting coordinator, brought in the best class in Stanford history and then was promptly not giving the job (giving to Mike Sanford Jr), after winning a national recruiting award. I think Lance is an Andy Reid type of coach.

  • Rockwell Baltimore, MD
    Jan. 18, 2013 2:09 p.m.

    Dave S

    Jealous of what?

    It's laughable that a perennial conference bottom dweller would even think that they have something others would be jealous of.

  • No Conference Will Take Us SEATTLE, WA
    Jan. 18, 2013 2:30 p.m.

    Snack PAC
    Olympus Cove, Utah
    WACpaddled

    "6-10 all time against San Jose St. Lost to them on national TV this past season."

    LOL at your pathetic attempts to minimize BYU.

    San Jose State was a Top 25 team, while you're pathetic Utes didn't qualify for a bowl and got lucky on a fluke scoop and score to beat BYU.

    BYU was 8-5, beat Top 25 Utah State, and finished #26 in the final Sagarin ratings.
    Utah was 5-7 this season and finished #61 in the final Sagarin ratings.

    Utah's record since joining the PAC 10.2: 13-12
    BYU's record since going Independent: 18-8

    And don't whine about it being all based on schedule. Utah couldn't even beat Colorado last nor Utah State this year.

    >>>>

    BYU and several of its fans are grandizing the football program over minimal accomplishments.
    The fact still remains the our Cougs built up wins over average WAC teams. Is that anything to be proud of? Our win-loss against ranked teams the past few years is awful.
    I wish fellow BYU fans would stop this nonsense.

  • scenic view Baltimore, MD
    Jan. 18, 2013 2:54 p.m.

    NO conference championships for U

    "BYU and several of its fans are grandizing the football program over minimal accomplishments."

    Minimal accomplishments are still better than NO accomplishments.

    8-5 winning season, bowl win, Top 25 win > 5-7 losing season, no bowl, no significant wins

    Upsets happen and the fact remains that Utah simply wasn't very good and your vain attempts to minimimze BYU simply minimize your lone accomplishment for 2012.

  • AZguy Phoenix, AZ
    Jan. 18, 2013 3:15 p.m.

    Edit -I do not want Lance Armstrong to coach at BYU, how about Lance Anderson who is a coach at Stanford. On the other hand, Lance Armstrong and his dr's could turn BYU athlets into Supermen.......J/k

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Jan. 18, 2013 4:17 p.m.

    Ute and Cougar fans slammed each other when Roderick was leaving. And now they slam each other 180 degrees the other way now that he is staying, at least for today. Same story over and over again for the fans. We are better than you eh? Same story for Roderick as well. I go and I stay.

  • ATiredDude Sandy, UT
    Jan. 18, 2013 6:44 p.m.

    @JMT.

    C'mon man. Bull. Bull puckey, even.

    If the shoe was on the other foot, you know how you would react. Differently.

  • aggfan77 Shire, 00
    Jan. 18, 2013 7:02 p.m.

    As an Aggie fan I learned a lot about college ball coaches. Many of you talked trash about us hurt and angry fans. We had a coach not only sign a contract extension but publicly say he was staying. Then did another story on local paper with comments like "I looked into there eyes and know this is the place to stay'' or"money isn't everything". Just support the players. No integrity when money is involved.

  • davidutefan Evanston, WY
    Jan. 18, 2013 8:52 p.m.

    well, I'm a step behind. I saw the article about him leaving and was wishing him well. I guess I can still wish him well from the stands.

  • BYUalum South Jordan, UT
    Jan. 18, 2013 9:32 p.m.

    Don't kid yourself. This was pure and simple. MONEY. why didn't he have the guts to say so is the question.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Jan. 19, 2013 1:49 a.m.

    More money for mediocrity...

    'Ducky' and 'Y's little brother'... best comments on this story.

    I love UEN... the Ute Entertainment Network! Always a laugh somewhere.

    LOL

  • nosaerfoecioveht NSL, UT
    Jan. 19, 2013 10:17 a.m.

    @sportsfan

    "the Utes haven't done anything of note since joining the PAC 10.2."

    And what has BYU done in that time? Besides getting beat whenever they play Utah. It's why you're obsessed with us.

  • SoUtBoy25 Cedar City, UT
    Jan. 19, 2013 10:24 a.m.

    Dave S.

    Last I checked BYU wasn't in a conference but was every game was available to view on the most watched sports network in the world and also for free for anyone in the world that wanted too watch it on their own schedule. I will give Utah props for taking a boat load of cash. However, money certainly hasn't made their on the field football schedule more compelling (i.e. no rivalry, and losing seasons for what appears to continue into the foreseeable future).

  • GoRed WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    Jan. 19, 2013 10:32 a.m.

    @sammyduck and other BYU fans:

    As Dave S has said, "Jealousy is a terrible thing. Enjoy life in your plastic Utah County bubble." So true. If you weren't all obsessed with everything Utah, you wouldn't be here trolling over our Utah boards.

    While we transition into a major, big-time conference, enjoy your quest for relevance as an "independent".

  • GO_COUGARS! Provo, UT
    Jan. 19, 2013 10:39 a.m.

    Happy to see him leave then happy to see him stay. Make up your minds.

  • GO_COUGARS! Provo, UT
    Jan. 19, 2013 11:00 a.m.

    Good. We are much better off without this guy we were excited about two days ago.

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    Jan. 19, 2013 12:00 p.m.

    Gored

    Talk about living in a land of "relevance fantasy"!

    Sorry to burst your crimson bubble, but the only thing the Utes have "transitioned to" is whipping boy for the big boys of the PAC 10.2.

    Until you've actually accomplished something in your "big-time" conference, you're nothing but a leech living off of the accomplishments of other teams. You might want to start by beating a conference foe with a winning record, a rather small accomplishment that the inept Utes are obviously incapable of achieving.

    As an Independent, BYU has finished in the Top 25, beaten a Top 25 team, and won two bowl games. Insignificant as Utah fans may characterize that to be, it still far exceeds anything Utah has accomplished during the last two years.

    btw, how do define "trolling", when the article is about a coach who left BYU to return to Utah?

  • sls Columbia, MO
    Jan. 19, 2013 4:38 p.m.

    Be happy that Roderick did another switcheroo. If he were to be the passing coordinator at BYU, it would be doomed to failure. Utah ranked dead last in the PAC12 this past year in passing at 182.4 yards per game. Even though BYU's passing offense was pretty pathetic, it still managed to gain 247 yards per game. Roderick would have been a step backward. If BYU wants to improve the passing game, almost anyone would be better.

  • Rockarolla West Jordan, UT
    Jan. 19, 2013 10:05 p.m.

    What is with this guy? And why does Utah keep taking him back? Wishy washy is no way to live your life? He should have taken the job at BYU. After another 5 and 7 year up on the hill all the coaches are gonna be outta there!

  • Just Smiling BOUNTIFUL, UT
    Jan. 20, 2013 2:28 a.m.

    Hey SportsFan- "You might want to start by beating a conference foe with a winning record, a rather small accomplishment that the inept Utes are obviously incapable of achieving." How about beating an instate foe with a winning record which the Utes have done 3 years in a row?????

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Jan. 20, 2013 5:30 a.m.

    The red and blue thing is closer to crips and bloods than anything else. It's not often that violence is needed to stop here, but nobody will stop the insults.

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    Jan. 20, 2013 11:58 a.m.

    Just Smiling

    It's laughable that playing BYU has once again become Utah's bowl game and beating BYU is the crowning achievement of your PAC 10.2 era.

    BYU is still successful, despite the head-to-head set backs to Utah.

    Utah is still a failure, despite the head-to-head success versus BYU.

  • 2BCSWINS West of I15, UT
    Jan. 20, 2013 1:07 p.m.

    @sports fan

    What is all the success the Y has had that you're reffering to? Are you truly happy with what they have done the last couple of years the last couple of decades for that matter? If you are good for you but I would be far from happy as the cougies have accomplished nothing the past 3 decades. I'm far from happy with what the utes have done over the last few years. However extremely happy they were the first to crack the BCS and win then repeat 4 years later and dominate an SEC force in the sugar bowl which in turn has won 3 BCS titles since! They Y has been qwesting for what the U has done twice since Bronco has arrived yet have not come even close to the U's success!

    So sports fan call us when the Y is succesful with something besides beating the bad WAC teams on their schedule and beats a top program other then Utah St. Better yet start talking trash when the Y isn't the U's whipping boy anymore you look foolish.

  • Just Smiling BOUNTIFUL, UT
    Jan. 21, 2013 12:01 a.m.

    SportsFan- You are right- it's hilarious- you compare the U's consistent winning over BYU to end of the season bowl games. The Y lost to every team that was better than them including the U. Then because of their weak schedule they qualify for a bowl game, which they wouldn't have if they had a PAC-12 schedule. The Y qualified for a bowl game the way that Ball State, Bowling Green, Navy, Air Force, etc. qualified. All insignificant teams playing in insignificant post season bowl games. Come on, compare apples to apples. Who won the actual game?

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Jan. 21, 2013 5:57 a.m.

    @just smiling, that is well said. BYU plays weak teams, qualifies for a bowl, then bags on Utah for playing a legitimate conference schedule, one that would have kept BYU out of a bowl game if they play the same schedule. On the other hand, if Utah played BYU's schedule, despite the top teams on it's schedule (the ones BYU lost to), Utah would have had the same wins along with the four patsies that would have got them into a bowl game as well.

  • midpacmajor Salt Lake City, Utah
    Jan. 21, 2013 10:52 a.m.

    gdog3finally

    Utah plays weak teams, still doesn't qualify for a bowl, then whines about BYU accomplishing what Utah couldn't.

    Bottom line, if Utah had beaten Utah State, a team BYU beat, U would have gone bowling.

    btw, what top teams on Utah's schedule?

    BYU played FIVE Top 25 teams; Utah only played TWO.

    BYU finished #26 in Sagarin; Utah only managed #61.

    Sorry to burst your crimson bubbles, but despite your lucky win over BYU, the Utes simply weren't any good.

    And no, the Utes wouldn't have had the same wins as BYU; U LOST to Utah State.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Jan. 21, 2013 11:30 a.m.

    @gored

    I hear your desperate plea for help and I have alerted the trailer park on the hill to your plight. They assure me that they will indeed beat a pac12 team with an winning record sometime during the next decade so just hang in there little fella, it will happen. Also coach little K tells me that not only will they win at least 1 conference game this year but sometime before 2020 they will actually make it to the cbi. Good times are on their way little guy, just don't do anything rash in the interim.

    Your's truly

    Duckhunter

  • chigkid Scottsdale, AZ
    Jan. 22, 2013 10:41 a.m.

    " . . after accepting a position" His going back to UT speaks volumes about keeping a commitment and integrity or lack of it.

  • CanuckFan Vancouver, BC
    Jan. 22, 2013 11:22 a.m.

    Utah giving him a pay raise to get him back is also a factor