Reforming education: The case for testing teachers


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  • Timj South Jordan, UT
    Jan. 11, 2013 5:56 p.m.

    Two things we need to get there:

    1. People need to start respecting the teaching profession. I left the profession due to this issue--not just because of a lack of respect in the classroom, but also because of a lack of respect in the community.

    2. Teaching needs to pay a respectable wage. 30k/year with crappy healthcare benefits that eat up 1/3 the paycheck if you want to cover your kids is not respectable. And while History or English majors may be willing to settle for it in some cases, many of the best and brightest, especially in math and science, won't.

  • John Charity Spring Back Home in Davis County, UT
    Jan. 11, 2013 6:40 p.m.

    Education must be reformed. That is irrefutable fact. But it must be reformed correctly. The correct reform is not to place greater restrictions on teachers by testing them to death. The correct reform is to give teachers freedom to reject the left wing egalitarianism that has infested modern education.

    Teachers must be allowed to teach the old fashioned values that made this Country great, such as honesty, chastity, piety, and devotion. No other reforms will make a difference unless teachers are permitted to once again teach morality in the schools.

    Jan. 12, 2013 6:49 a.m.

    Over my lifetime, I've seen the negative effects of the push for "scientific" management in the business community, which consists of reducing everything to metric and then managing those metrics. The problem is that some of the most important things can't be easily measured, but the focus on what is measurable pushes those important factors off the agenda. In the business world, this results in management focused on making the numbers look good at the expense of making the business successful.

    We're trying to push the same thing into education, and the same thing is happening there. More of it will not improve the situation.

    Regarding teachers' wages - they do need to be higher. But allowing government to operate the schools inevitably results in low wages. Note what is happening in healthcare - the current administration is attempting to reduce healthcare costs by refusing to pay market prices to hospitals and doctors - the same thing that's been happening to teachers forever.

    The federal government needs to back off and let us run our own schools.

  • cityslickergrandma Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 12, 2013 6:51 a.m.

    I have a volunteer who teaches elementary school in a different country. After one day in my classroom she commented on how much more difficult it is to teach students in my classroom compared to hers. She noticed that the biggest difference is that in her country students realize that an education is a privilege and students that do hours of homework without complaining and always do their best work. I have some students who will take every opportunity to learn, but unfortunately, others try to get by with the least effort possible. I have tried to encourage a good work ethic, but it is very difficult. Students need to understand that education is not a punishment but a blessing.

  • catcrazed Eagle Mountain, UT
    Jan. 22, 2013 2:09 p.m.

    Teachers are being tested. They must pass the PRAXIS test and produce a portfolio within the first three years of teaching And I agree that teachers are respected more in other countries. I don't agree that I should be teaching anything of a religious nature in my classroom. I do teach things like honesty and integrity, hard work, kindness, and other principles which stand my students in good stead both now and in the future.