Re: ". . . disdain spreads as 'fiscal cliff' looms"As well it should. It's all political circus. Bad circus, to boot.Granted, the "fiscal cliff" is anything but. Even the term is
nothing more than a cynical political device to divert attention away from the
President's much more severe Obamacare taxes, taxes that will kick in,
whether or not we're pitched over the "cliff."In
reality, we should embrace the "cliff." Its tax hikes are rather
insignificant, at least compared to what's coming, and its "cuts"
are substantially less illusory than any of the disingenuous liberal
alternatives being proposed.
It's not all Congress's fault. Where is the President's
responsibility to get this done? Typical blaming everyone but the White House,
especially when Obama has presented no budget for over three years, and keeps
his hardline rhetoric, insisting on tax increases on small businesses and an
ever-growing group that makes $200K or more or couples making $250K or more.
I'm not one of them. But they already pay their "fair share" and
more. Flat tax time so those who only receive from the government have to start
paying and then have a balanced electorate who sees the consequences of their
Yet we re-elected a whole bunch of those who are members of the Just Say No
Party who have pledged their souls to Grover rather than pledging to work
together to solve problems.However, had the Party Of No been unable
to gerrymander House districts in most states, there would have been a lot more
of the Party Of Yes in those seats after the first of the year.Political games continue and too many Americans are gullible enough to fall
So why did so many vote for King Obama, the man who refuses to compromise?
one old manThe Party of Yes is the party that has spent us blind
with "shovel-ready jobs" that really weren't, and has mortgaged our
children's and grandchildren's future to give every soul health care
and turn America into socialist Greece.Someone needs to say
"no" when we're buried in debt. All Obama wants to do is raise
taxes through the roof. Look at his accomplices---Harry Reid and Nancy
Pelosi---and tell me that the inmates are not in charge of the insane asylum.
Re: "Political games continue and too many Americans are gullible enough to
fall for them."You said a mouthful, brother!Democrats and the President have been offered everything they demanded a year
ago -- and more. But just can't seem to find a way to take "yes"
for an answer. They keep throwing in new stuff -- like a demand that Congress
empower the President to disregard the Consitution, assuming the powers of the
duly-reelected people's House to initiate debt-based spending from his own
office, in his sole discretion, pursuant to his own agenda.Hmmmmm.Notwithstanding, way too many Americans continue to
indicate they blame only Republicans -- who clearly deserve some blame. But the
power to fully resolve the issue is lies clearly in the hands of Democrats.In the words of that great philosopher and man in black, Kay --
"What a gullible breed!"
Fiscal Cliff?It's not just the Fiscal Cliff.Congress
rejecting the Americans with Disabilies vote is enough to cause disdain for
them.Leave to Utah Senators Mike Lee, and Orrin Hatch to put Party
Politics ahead of America's Disabled, let alone America's finances.
@toosmart"So why did so many vote for King Obama...."do you really not see the failure in logic behind this statement? please
think about what you are typing before you type it.
The narcissistic voter will always put the people in office who are most likely
to be generous. We were warned about that by the founding fathers.Romney
certainly wasn't willing to tell us the hard truth about debt and revenue.
He favored a rather gentle reduction of expenditures.Certainly Obama has
pitched the idea of MORE. More stimulus programs, more student loan
forgiveness, more government cheese in all its forms.And the biggest
program is national health insurance, certain to join Social Security, Medicare
and Medicaid as budget-busters.We all know in our hearts that this cannot
continue. They are just making the bubble bigger and thinner. Obama's
hollow victory of getting the rich to pay more is quaint but hardly a solution
to the problem.At the end of the day we should all be livid that our
elected officials allowed this problem to fester since November of 2011.
Our congressmen are the best.The problems is with all the other
The Congress has a majority of Republican members in the House because the equal
sized districts around the United States of America elected those people to
represent them in Congress. The people in those Districts knew what their
Congress members were going to do with the fiscal responsibility they have as
Representatives. They have an obligation to their constituents to vote for
fiscal responsibility. The President thinks he has a mandate
because he won the election, but he didn't win a substantial part of the
country, as seen in how the districts voted for Republicans. He was very
selective in his metropolitan areas.The President is grandstanding
so he can develop his built crisis and make the story go against the
Republicans. However, he has some risk that what will happen will reflect on
his "Obama" failures. Congress doesn't usually pick up the
responsibility of a recession as there are over 400 in that body. One person,
the President, took a chance when he went up for reelection in that his second
term can be a failure and then the total 8 years will be a problem for him. The
country isn't really better but his story will be.
There is no disdain for Congress in Utah. Just over a month ago, we re-elected
every one of them. We like our guys.
@there you go againI agree I just wish the congress sessions would
stop interfering with Jason Chaffetz's appearances on fox, I love listening
to his twisted attempts of logic, he is a very entertaining.
We are 16 trillion dollars in debt. Our unfunded liabilities are at about 87
trillion dollars. We are so beyond broke...
Why are people complaining about the expiration of Bush tax cuts for the
wealthy? If the tax cuts for the wealthy expire, the tax rate will be around
the same as it was during most of Reagan's presidency. Was the tax rate
under Reagan really that bad? Any Reagan worshipers willing to comment?
What amazes me is that folks are surpised and frustrated that this issue is not
getting resolved. Did you really think that re-electing President Obama would
change the course we have been on and are currently on?
@rural Did you really think electing your same congressman would change
the course we are on? It easy to try to point the finger but until you clean
your own side of the street it does not hold much water.
@ rural and GeorgeThe truth is we've been punked again by both sides.
It is not Congress that we should disdain. They are voted on by people who live
in their districts. The President has the largest PR firm in the United States
of America and the world as he has 5 main networks plus cable ones that are his
messengers. Congress is a body of over 500 people who are elected. The
President and Senate and House leaders can use their crow bar to get a
Representative or Senator to change their votes for promises of grandeur and
position. However, Congressmen and women are 1 of over 400 and they don't
have the networks to push their message. They will be sacrificed the next
election due to PACs that are uncontrollable now, since this last election.We have a lot to worry about with the power of these unlegislated PACs
that the courts basically has given rise to with their United decision. We
don't need parties anymore except to facilitate these PACs. They have
become the parties and have untold amounts of money, power and prestige to push
on voters without having to sign an individual lobbyist statement.We
are running into the Matheson and Love type of expenditures in the future.
Obama should fold Obamacare into Medicare and eliminate age requirement and
employers from funding healthcare. They can fund it thru a national sales tax
which would allow employers to be more competitive globally and put them in a
position to hire more people. Employees can then double the fica deductions for
social security and medicare. Our economy should have a surge.
Ironic that the recent election, only a month ago now, had none of this on our
minds. I wonder what percentage of those that are 'worried' about
this fiscal cliff actually voted to reelect. I'd bet it's pretty
high, especially as fiscal cliff problems will affect the poorer urban
residents. We need to fix our problems. We need higher taxes. We
need to cut spending. If we don't then we'll keep bandaiding
ourselves into a Greece/Spain/Portugal/Italy kind of problem. Then is when
things will get really bad. We've got to address it all now and not wait
for things to collapse 20 years from now.
This President has done his Chicago group PR work and would put all the blame of
everything on either George W. Bush or the House of Representatives. He
can't even think that History would show that the Obama administration had
anything to do with the fiscal cliff crisis he has invented and made public
relations wise.He did the same with anything about Mitt Romney, in
the campaign. By the Way, this President hasn't got off the
campaign trail as he is in fear that his legacy, if any, would be for naught.Mitt Romney was painted as a man that didn't care about people or
our country. Actually, President Obama should have painted that
picture about himself, if you look at it. Obamacare was forced through His
Congress and leadership on people that didn't want a change, even though he
gave the medical care until 26 years old, which people took advantage of
immediately, without the ink drying.He demonizes everything the
Republicans do but makes sure he is on the road to show all 5 networks that he
is in control, pushing for the mandate that people "quote" gave him this
past election.He loves Obama.
JWB,It is congress we should disdain because they control purse
strings. The President can recommend, suggest, request, but it is congress who
controls the federal budget. The President can't spend a dime without
I did not vote for a single incumbent. I am not to blame. How many of you can
Fred44, note:This part has not been done in 3 years. The budget
process begins the first month in February, when the President submits his
proposal to Congress. This step established by the Budget and Accounting Act of
1921, not new. The Act modified that with OMB, the largest and
arguably the most powerful group in the Executive Office of the President. OMB
is also responsible for overseeing management and budgets of executive branch
agencies as well as advising the President on a variety of issues. The President's proposed budget, if there was one, includes extensive
supporting documentation to make the case for White House spending - and saving
- priorities.The Congressional Budget Resolution is developed
following Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act of 1974. This Act
also created the House and Senate Budget Committees and the Congressional Budget
Office (CBO). The Congressional Budget Resolution or proposal is for
managing the federal government. It includes estimated revenue, new budget
authorities, proposed outlays, net surplus or deficit, and the resulting
estimated level of public debt. House and Senate Appropriations
Committees hold hearings, taking testimony from OMB, executive agency officials
and others, which the President hasn't done.