Why is it that only 4 offensive lineman got picked for the 4A team and in years
past it has been 5?
I thought that was odd as well. Herriman has rushed for over 3,000 yards each
of the last two years but no all state blockers to show for it, not even the
tight end whom I think is a tremendous blocker. You just don't run for
that many yards without blocking!
We can always play the "what if" game considering potential injuries in
athletics. Interesting that Jake Thompson of Logan whose career was
cut short after an injury and just three games this year was on pace to break
the state record for career kicking and could have hypothetically ended up with
271 total points to surpass Riley Stephenson of Pine View who scored 250 points
in his 4-year career from 2002-2005. Thompson's 28 hypothetical field goals
could have equaled Justin Sorenson's while he kicked for Bingham from
2005-2007. Both Stephenson and Sorenson are currently kicking for BYU in
Division 1.Thompson's 44 and 49 yard FGs are among the best in the state
this year. Hopefully he will reconstruct that injured leg and go on
to greater things.
Tyler Solorzano of Timpview is another case in point as he missed three games
after ankle surgery and was relegated to back-up place kicker. Had he not missed
so many games as first kicker, he could easily have ended up with 23 field goals
instead of just 20, 207 PATs and 276 total points. He also would have surpassed
Stephenson and Sorenson. Even with those missed games, he is still second behind
Stephenson in career points with 236. But neither Thompson nor
Solorzano will be honored for their work and effort because of injuries;
that's the nature of the game. Hopefully they can both go on to the next
level and prove themselves at JC or a Division II program somewhere. Defensively at the safety position, Solorzano had 45 tackles and three
interceptions (111 and six in his career) for 2012. But he was not even singled
out for honorable mention at the 4A level. It's interesting how this works.
@FaifeauSam - I agree...it seems like some really good players have been left
off of this list. Herriman had a Tight End with 500 yds and 5 TDs and also a
Strong Safety with 59 tackles and 3 INTs that I thought for sure would have made
one of the three All-State Teams for 4A. I did notice that only 3 defensive
backs instead of 4 were chosen for the 3 teams....which means that 3 DBs lost
the chance to be recognized.Does anyone know how the voting works?
Is it by coaches, by the media or both?
FaifeauSam: last I heard Jake committed to USU for kicking. Logan had 3 all
state players from last year that were injured this year that will all be
playing for USU. Chasen Anderson, coach A's son, Caden Anderson, no
releation, and Jake.
Hey FaifeauSam,Yes it would have been nice for Tyler to be All
State. But thats just a piece of paper. All HS fans, and I am sure especially
them at Timpview, will remember him for that game tying, clutch FG in the State
Championship as the time expired. That, my friend, will last a lifetime and be
remembered by all (instead of an award). I am sure any of these kids would take
a State Championship over any personal honor. And for Solorzano to hit that
with that kind of pressure in the big game is what Champs are made of-
especially knowing if he misses they lose. The coaches obviously knew he was
money and believed also. Kids a baller.Also, congrats to all on
this list. It was an exciting, fun filled year of HS football!!!
The reality is that the best teams get the most kids on all state. If you
don't make a good run in the playoffs, your kids are not noticed. Whether
you agree with this or not, it is the reality...probably why the Herriman and
Logan kids didn't make it.
To me, the indication of a well-rounded team will put fewer standouts on the
All-State teams. Timpview was well rounded and there were players who would have
been starters and standouts on most other teams. Five first and second team
players were from Timpview plus two Honorable Mentions, and they were from the
State Champion team. There were also six from Mountain Crest plus one HM. Six
from East plus one HM. Four from Logan plus one HM. Two from Woods Cross plus
one HM. Three from Herriman plus one HM. So your rationale that the best teams
have the most honorees is not necessarily valid. Timpview and East
had to prove themselves because of their forfeits, and they performed admirably
in spite of the nay-sayers and many who wished them to lose. There were even
others who called them cheaters when they won, but they won anyway! That's
the sign of a real champion!
@BigBenzo: See James Edward's story: How the all-state football teams are
picked By James Edward, Deseret News
Hate to bring this up, but saying that Herriman and Logan would have gotten more
on had they advanced further is a bit short sighted this year. Both would have
advanced had they played competition appropriate to their seed. I am not going
to rehash the whole UHSAA decision, I am just saying that had Herriman or Logan
been in the top part of the bracket, or played tthe draw of true 1 or 2 seeds,
they would have been probable semifinal teams, so by your rationale they would
then get more players on all state? I would hope that the selectors would look
more thoroughly than that. If all state should be based on how good your
team was, it would be much more appropriate to look at Logan and Herriman as top
5 teams then it would to look at them as first round exits, that is all I am
saying in response to your argument. I actually thought the Herriman
players were selected appropriately, with the exception that I think someone, in
two years, deserves credit for blocking in that offense, even if it is honorable
mention, that's all.
FaifeauSam: just make up your own awards, buy some trophies, pass 'em out
and there you go!
@BigBenzo88- DN does an incredible job with the High School scene, but I
don't know if they'll ever get this right. IMHO players that sometimes
receive the least recognition are those that play for terrible teams and HAVE to
go both ways for the team to be remotely competitive. How can a kid that is near
the top in tackles for his position (despite 3-4 fewer games), have more
all-purpose yards than any other DB going both ways, play ALL special teams...
including kicking duties... not get recognized? Not even honorable mention? Is
this an oversight or is it more of their own coaches fault?There
were a few recognized for what they did LAST year or who they've committed
to.Kinda makes you an open enrollment and transfer where ever you
want to supporter.