You mean Obama lied I am shocked, absolutely shocked (not really)
Darn, Obama caught in yet another lie! Don't worry Democrats, the news
media has Obama's back and will just sweep this under the rug along with
fast and furious, Solyndra, GSA scandles,the White House intelligent leaks and
the "recovering" economy. Hey, maybe Obama will issue another executive
order and have the Benghazi murder investigations "sealed".
Dictatorships can only control the people when the media is an adjunct to their
Mendacity or is it incompetence, thy name is Obama.
Such silliness. Anytime there is a crime against Americans, there are numerous
groups claiming responsibility. While it is unusual that conservatives
vehemently trust the word of terrorists over their own goverment, it explains so
much. These are the same yahoos who trusted terrorists when they said "Iraq
has weapons of mass destruction" even though our intelligence agencies said
"No, Iraq does not." We had to spend billions of dollars and hundreds
of lives to show that our intelligence agencies were right all along.
what lie? Please tell us exactly what he said that was a lie. Did he claim at
any point to not having receivced these emails or about anything in there actaul
content? So far every claim you all have made has turned out to be wrong.
Can someone please help me understand why Democrats demand and accept so little
from Obama but demand so much from everyone else?
@Tolstoy"what lie? Please tell us exactly what he said that was
a lie."lie1. a false statement made with deliberate intent
to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood. 2. something intended or
serving to convey a false impression; imposture: His flashy car was a lie that
deceived no one. 3. an inaccurate or false statement. Obama/Rice/Clinton all claimed it was about a silly video - not terrorism: How
would you classify that obfuscation? Or are you "all in" on
rationalizing Obama's Pinocchio politics
Every day, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence compiles
intelligence from the CIA and other intelligence agencies and provides the White
House with the President's Daily Brief. This is understood to be the very
best intelligence available.From September 15 to September 21, the
CIA told the president in the President's Daily Brief that the attack in
Libya evolved from a protest. The President reflected this intelligence in his
comments about the attacks.So what, exactly, did the president do
wrong? David Patraeus is now the director of the CIA. Does this blog mean to
imply that the President should have ignored the briefings the CIA provided and
instead formed his own conclusions based upon the email the White House
Counter Intelligence: You asked, "Obama/Rice/Clinton all claimed it was
about a silly video - not terrorism: How would you classify that
obfuscation?"Do you believe that CIA director David Patreaus and
the CIA lied when they told the White House the attacks evolved from the
demonstration? Why didn't you list Patreaus in the list of people who
obfuscated and/or lied about what happened? After all, that is the source that
Obama and the State Department relied upon in their assessment of what happened.
And the WhiteHouse Staff didn't wake up Ronald Reagan to tell him what was
happening every minute of everyday in every part of the world.The
President is not God, people.There IS such a thing as Chain of
Command.================ BTW - I listened to Glenn Beck
go off about this morning too....
"Why didn't you list Patreaus in the list of people who obfuscated
and/or lied about what happened?"Because he was not on the front
lines telling the public a story long after they knew it was falseBut if you want to add him to the list - that is fine by me
Yes, LDS Liberal, Obama is not God. Deity does not lie. It's the Nixonian
cover up (It was a protest, Oh - Hillary Clinton was to blame, no one knew, gosh
we get lots of emails, it was someone else's fault, ad infinitum. All of
which have been disproved.) of gross incompetence that compounds the betrayal of
Americans in Libya. The WH is the Keystone Cops of foreign policy.
On the 8th of April 2004 it was revealed that, on August 6, 2001 bush was warned
of impending attacks on US soil. Remember that? I do. The Guardian notes that,
at the time of the warning memo, "Mr Bush was on a month-long "working
holiday" at his Texas ranch and spent much of the following days fishing and
clearing undergrowth on his land. He did not cut short his vacation or
apparently take dramatic steps in response to the briefing." For whatever
indignation people can come up with here, I'm more comfortable with
President Obama than MittRo or republicans in general. People here have despised
President Obama since day one. That doesn't make romney a better choice.
I'm sure the same people calling for Obama's head were also calling
for Reagan's head after Iran Contra....Right repubs?
Who cares if this was an act of organized terrorism or the result of a
demonstration on a stupid movie gone bad?4 Americans were killed.
Lets work on preventing these acts from occurring again. If that requires
sanctions or restricting foreign aid to these countries, then do it. If that
requires us beefing up security, then do it. If it requires that we maybe shut
down a few embassies around the world in these hot spots, then do it.I personally don't care whether it was a crime, terrorism, or senseless
violence in a demonstration about the movie. It seems like the only
folks trying to politicize this are from the far radical right. A few months ago
it was the "you didn't build this" thing. Now that that has run its
course, now they're grasping at straws again. Folks, why 4
Americans were killed doesn't matter. The fact is that they were killed and
we should work on preventing these types of incidents from happening no matter
who the President is. STOP TRYING TO SCORE POLITICAL POINTS on this.
Focus on your own foreign policies instead of agreeing w/Obama on
@CIplease quote and site when exactly Obama said it was about the video.
full quote please.
@CIKnow that you have looked up the meaning of a lie will you please stop
spreading them? Obama stated at least three times in the first two days he
thought it was an act of terror.
Finally!Finally someone in the media had the courage to tell us
exactly who Obama is and what he has been doing during all of his political
career."The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the
truth" is not something just found on Perry Mason. Every President of the
United States is expected to be above reproach and to tell the whole truth. The
liberals will stutter and stammer with their "yeah buts". They will
continue to try to mislead and to use guile, but the evidence is before us. If we are so foolish that we will ever believe another word coming from
Obama's mouth, then we deserve to be misled.
Mike Richards South Jordan, UtahDo you, CI and Mountain Man have a
direct line to the basement strategizing sessions where these talking points are
developed and put out to the right-wing radio talking heads? I know the
election is just two weeks away and everyone is getting their rage on. The
four-year dream of eliminating Barack Obama is so close, and yet, there is theis
palpable fear that he might win again.Talking points are just a
regurgitation of someone else's thinking. They don't add substance
but do give a "feeling" that the individual repeating this stuff is
contributing. But be careful of flaming. The trolls are out in force, but for
all their bellicosity, they are either sounding off to the choir or completely
ignored for what they are.We have seen "seriously
conservative" Mitt morph into "moderate" Mitt and then finally
transform into Obama II. It will be interesting to learn who he really is if
elected. Certainly the Tea Party faithful will be watching to see if "their
guy" stands tall. They certainly don't want "compromise" Mitt
working across the aisle. They want "Paul Ryan" Mitt, tough talk and
Look at how many have swallowed Obama's lies, hook, line and sinker. Look
at how many are telling us that the White House had so many emails coming in
that a direct attack on one of our embassies was somehow overlooked. Look at
how many think, along with Obama, that the Americans are complete fools.Enough is enough! Obama lied to us. He and his
administration have tried to cover up the terrorist caused deaths of four
Americans. He and his administration either laid in their beds while we were
under attack, or they conspired to tell us that a "movie" had incited a
mob to attack our embassy. They knew from the beginning that
TERRORISTS were attacking. They knew from the beginning that NO MOVIE was
involved. They lied to us. Some of you believe their lies. Some of you excuse
their misconduct. Some of you accept that they continued to lie to us for two
weeks after the killings. Some of you would accept anything that Obama says.That is the whole point of the Washington Post article. He blatantly
lied and you just don't care.What a nation of sheep we are
@spring streetObama immediately sent his surrogate, Susan Rice, onto
the talk shows the first Sunday after the attack to claim it was the video.
Sending hench(wo)men to lie so he would not have to get too dirty, is a
particularly cowardly form of lyingI assume you are not an Ostrich -
therefore you can see it for yourself. Also; A good source is the timeline
listed in Forbes (if that is not too right-wing for you to read)@PhrancObama has refereed to generic "acts of terror" multiple
times before and after September 11, 2012, and his story morphed as he went on
Letterman, the View and the Daily Show, but he did not specifically call Libya
an act of terror until two weeks after the event (after the video defense had
completely crumbled) One good reference is the Daily Mail Thursday, Oct 25 2012
BTW: You are not in a position to lecture about lying@Ying
FahDoes Stephanie Cutter email you the latest talking points?Although I will offer my sympathy - it must be difficult for you to watch
"the one" self destruct (no real help from me, Mountainman or Mike
Are we to assume that even after two weeks, the administration did not know the
facts concerning this? Because two weeks later, they are still saying it was a
riot as the result of a video. If after two weeks they didn't know,
that's even more scary because these people must have their head in the
sand when it comes to foreign policy and events. This was a mess before and a
mess after. The difference here is plain and simple. They lied and tried to
cover up the fact that Al Queda was not dead, but still alive.
It seems that to deny terrorist activity has been a policy for some time now.When a gunman opens fire (at a shopping mall etc) it has been hard to
ascertain his name, cultural roots and opinions etc. We are told almost
immediately that "we do not know why he did it" and even "we will
never know" (!?)When a militant shoots fellow soldiers in the
presence of many others and there is no mystery whatsoever about the motivation
it is described as a "work related" (not a terrorist) incident. We do
our best to make it appear what it is not, and that it is not what it is.This incident is more of the same "approach" to terrorism; as
far as possible (and even beyond perhaps) officially deny terrorism and find
very little if any. We killed one terrorism therefore terrorism is dead? No on
ould say that but I think we are meant to believe it to some extent.
@Counter IntelligenceI don't even know how one could think it
illogical that Obama was referring to the Libya attack as an act of terror when
he uses the phrase act of terror in a statement about attacks on our embassies
@altits not abut logic with CI.
"No Acts Of Terror Will Ever
Shake The Resolve Of This Great Nation."
So what I want all of you to know is that we are
going to bring those who killed our fellow Americans to justice. I want people
around the world to hear me: To all those who would do us harm, no act of terror
will go unpunished. It will not dim the light of the values that we proudly
present to the rest of the world. No act of violence shakes the resolve of the
United States of America.
(9/13/2012 Golden CO)
for the ones we lost last night: I want to assure you, we will bring their
killers to justice. And we want to send a message all around the world --
anybody who would do us harm: No act of terror will dim the light of the values
that we proudly shine on the rest of the world, and no act of violence will
shake the resolve of the United States of America."
If you don,t know truth about why four Americans were killed, how can you stop
Puleeeeeze, the same poeple that believe Regan to be a hero and just forgot he
was selling guns illegally ON PURPOSE. "I don't recall....."This is much about nothing.
It is despicable that Romney (and Republicans) couldn't wait to politicize
the deaths of Ambassador Stevens and other foreign officers. Americans should
come together and allow the dead the dignity and honor of their sacrifice. These emails don't change the story at all. Reports were coming
in, data was being examined. The Pres and others spoke of acts of terror AND
the unrest across Muslim countries associated with the video. It appears so
far, the attackers in Libya took advantage of the violence/unrest in other
countires as a cover. Even if a group claims responsibility, verification is
required. It was/is a fluid situation. Democrats just utterly fail
at sound bites and talking points. Republicans just cant't deal with
complexity and nuance, everything is a conspiracy.Pathetic.